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#openstack-nova - 2017-09-08
14:19:12 stephenfin I've trying to clean both that, and the specs I'm having to review for background info, this week
14:19:14 sdague dtantsur: you able to ask enough questions on that bug to figure out what is going on?
14:19:15 dansmith dtantsur: sdague: It's working as designed, we can't put compute node records in without anything reported from ironic.. that's a fundamental thing
14:19:18 stephenfin Extra specs suuuuuuuck
14:19:24 sdague dansmith: ok
14:19:37 dtantsur dansmith: except that it creates a horrible user experience
14:19:55 dansmith sdague: we write 1:1 ironic node reported from ironic into the compute nodes table.. if zero are reported (or we can't do the list) then we have nothing to write
14:20:26 dansmith sdague: there is a periodic task you can enable on scheduler that will run discovery every once in a while, which is a workaround
14:20:40 dansmith dtantsur: I dunno what to say.. I can't report things I don't know are there
14:20:44 sdague dansmith: ok, cool, I'll close as working as designed
14:20:48 dtantsur then we have to document this periodic task a mandatory for ironic..
14:20:51 dtantsur s/a/as/
14:22:57 dtantsur dansmith: https://github.com/openstack/nova/commit/62878ef5a6c9f6a2c727c91397830387425c4d37
14:23:25 dtantsur isn't it fixing precisely that?
14:24:22 dtantsur hmm, maybe not actually
14:24:30 openstackgerrit Elod Illes proposed openstack/nova master: Transform aggregate.remove_host notification https://review.openstack.org/396211
14:25:47 dtantsur dansmith: this means that we should either document running nova-manage after adding every ironic node/bulk of nodes or document using this periodic task, right?
14:25:56 mriedem stephenfin: "What flavors are why they are used."?
14:27:07 stephenfin damn
14:27:07 stephenfin *and
14:27:22 stephenfin *What are flavors and why are they used
14:28:10 openstackgerrit Merged openstack/nova master: Typo error about help resource_classes.inc https://review.openstack.org/501930
14:29:43 mriedem ^
14:29:43 mriedem inspur is going on a spell check tear i've noticed recently
14:29:51 mriedem that's the 2nd patch i've seen from the same company for the same typo
14:30:01 openstackgerrit Stephen Finucane proposed openstack/nova master: doc: Split flavors docs into admin and user guides https://review.openstack.org/501342
14:31:21 mriedem who wants to get these other two stable/pike high severity fixes? https://review.openstack.org/#/q/topic:bug/1715462+branch:stable/pike
14:31:46 sdague looking
14:32:23 sdague mriedem: +2 on both of those
14:32:28 mriedem thanks
14:32:55 mriedem gibi: i think https://review.openstack.org/#/c/500521/ might be better in some kind of 'limitations' doc
14:33:18 mriedem gibi: the ironic and fgpa thing was noted in the spec as an example, but so was shared IP allocation pools in the original resource providers spec back in i think mitaka
14:33:30 mriedem those are just examples, not declarations of what we support today
14:34:24 gibi mriedem: but we don't have limitation doc I assume
14:35:32 mriedem gibi: no, but that's easy to change
14:35:33 gibi mriedem: but I understand that release notes are not the good place either
14:35:40 mriedem gibi: i left some comments in the patch with more detailed thoughts
14:35:56 mriedem i think we could fit something in here https://docs.openstack.org/nova/latest/user/placement.html
14:36:24 mriedem we have overview, deployment, upgrade notes (per release), and REST API microversion history, we could also have a Limitations section
14:36:51 gibi mriedem: I like this idea
14:36:57 mriedem i like that you like this idea
14:37:34 gibi mriedem: I will try type up a patch during my flight tomorrow
14:38:01 mriedem cool, thanks
14:38:36 gibi thanks for the feedback
14:40:39 gibi mriedem: also thanks for the ML reply on my notification question, elod will start working on adding the new interface_attach notification next week
14:43:04 mriedem \o/
14:44:05 gibi I'm logging off for the weekend. See you in Denver
14:44:10 mriedem have a good one
14:44:16 gibi thanks
14:58:55 openstackgerrit Lee Yarwood proposed openstack/nova stable/pike: Move hash ring initialization to init_host() for ironic https://review.openstack.org/502082
15:03:54 openstackgerrit Stephen Finucane proposed openstack/nova master: Fix AZ related API docs https://review.openstack.org/456655
15:11:22 sdague stephenfin: I think you dropped a word - https://review.openstack.org/#/c/456655
15:11:30 sdague after that, +2
15:12:16 openstackgerrit Stephen Finucane proposed openstack/nova master: Fix AZ related API docs https://review.openstack.org/456655
15:12:31 stephenfin sdague: Second time I've done that today :( Done
15:12:46 sdague +2
15:12:49 stephenfin ta
15:16:44 mriedem stephenfin: couple nits inline there
15:17:17 mriedem "Typically, you use availability zones to arrange OpenStack compute hosts into logical groups."
15:17:27 mriedem you (the end user?) doesn't actually arrange the compute hosts
15:17:31 mriedem the admin does that with host aggregates
15:17:50 mriedem and labels them with AZs that the end user (non-admin) can then use for isolation
15:18:07 mriedem but maybe i'm splitting hairs
15:22:25 openstackgerrit Stephen Finucane proposed openstack/nova master: Fix AZ related API docs https://review.openstack.org/456655
15:22:45 stephenfin mriedem: I agree, and I think I've addressed it
15:27:04 mriedem cool, +2
15:28:00 mikal sdague: can I get a +W on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/472229/ please? It has two +2's but the +W fell off when we went around a corner too fast.
15:31:40 sdague mikal: done
15:31:47 mikal Ta
15:32:18 sdague mikal: so, is there actually a privsep discussion area somewhere carved out yet for PTG?
15:36:12 mriedem it's in the etherpad
15:36:22 mriedem https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/nova-ptg-queens
15:36:32 mriedem i don't have a specific time slotted for that
15:36:56 sdague mriedem: right, it's on the big list, but not with a timeslot
15:37:10 sdague I was also wondering if it was in the class of things to have mon/tues time somewhere
15:37:18 sdague mostly to get folks more introduced to the idea
15:37:26 mriedem it's not in the mon/tues xp stuff as far as i know
15:37:30 mriedem unless mikal is driving that
15:37:38 mriedem friday is the default timeslot for 'everything else'
15:44:47 openstackgerrit Stephen Finucane proposed openstack/nova master: doc: Rework man pages https://review.openstack.org/502105
15:50:42 openstackgerrit Stephen Finucane proposed openstack/nova master: WIP! doc: Add contents page https://review.openstack.org/498820
15:50:42 openstackgerrit Stephen Finucane proposed openstack/nova master: docs: Rename cellsv2_layout -> cellsv2-layout https://review.openstack.org/498821
15:50:43 openstackgerrit Stephen Finucane proposed openstack/nova master: doc: Cleanup of existing index pages https://review.openstack.org/498819
15:57:43 mikal dansmith: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/opendev-sf-use-cases
15:58:20 mikal mriedem / sdague: I had expected it to be scheduled in the nova thing, but that doesn't seem to have happened
15:59:00 mikal I kind of feel like we should do our thing this release, and then push it out to others next release
16:01:02 mriedem ok i still need to carve up the placement stuff into slots
16:01:03 sdague mikal: that's fine, it does seem like if there were interested parties on Tues afternoon or something to gather and do some bootstrapping
16:01:32 sdague it feels like one of those things that's enough of a shift some bootstrapping on what's going on, and good patterns, would be useful
16:02:06 mriedem i have moved some of the placement stuff to it's own etherpad https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/nova-ptg-queens-placement
16:02:20 mriedem i think we're going to do the high priority stuff in the 2 hour slot on wed afternoon
16:02:31 mriedem and then bump the other new stuff for placement to thursday afternoon after neutron
16:02:37 mriedem plus whatever else to friday
16:05:26 mriedem mikal: maybe we do privsep at 4 on wednesday
16:05:37 mriedem after everyone is exhausted
16:06:54 sdague less exhausted than friday
16:07:03 sdague we might be able to complete sentences
16:07:39 cdent .
16:10:47 alaski johnthetubaguy: mriedem I vaguely recall some brief discussions with bauwser about discovering scheduler hints. I was mostly taking the stance that codfying the API schema for scheduler hints was silly because there was no correlation between what the API allows and what the deployment allowed.
16:10:53 openstackgerrit Matt Riedemann proposed openstack/nova master: doc: fix flavor notes https://review.openstack.org/502112

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