| Posted | Nick | Remark | |
|---|---|---|---|
| #openstack-nova - 2017-09-05 | |||
| 13:50:43 | jaypipes | efried: that's it. nothing more. | |
| 13:50:59 | efried | Associating for programmatic or human consumption? | |
| 13:51:23 | jaypipes | efried: right now, mostly programmatic. | |
| 13:51:35 | jaypipes | efried: it's currently how we handle shared resources. | |
| 13:51:48 | efried | So placement aggregates can overlap. | |
| 13:52:00 | efried | I seem to recall asking this very question in Boston :) | |
| 13:52:04 | efried | And the answer was yes | |
| 13:52:06 | stephenfin | mriedem: Could you take another look at this this week? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/412356/ | |
| 13:52:16 | edleafe | efried: placement can't select based on nova host agg | |
| 13:52:19 | jaypipes | efried: in the future, I envision aggregates being associated to each other via a distance attribute. In other words, agg A and agg B are distance 1 apart. agg X and agg A are distance 4 apart, etc. | |
| 13:52:33 | edleafe | efried: that's done in the scheduler filters | |
| 13:52:35 | jaypipes | efried: this will provide us a way to model affinity and anti-affinity concerns in placement. | |
| 13:53:03 | jaypipes | efried: yep, aggregates (either placement or Nova host aggregate) can overlap. | |
| 13:53:44 | efried | jaypipes So it also makes sense that a nested resource provider will be implicitly aggregated with its parent. | |
| 13:54:23 | efried | ...and by extension, with its "siblings" and "cousins"... | |
| 13:55:14 | jaypipes | efried: yes. I was planning on making a constraint that only root provider UUIDs could be associated with an aggregate. | |
| 13:56:55 | mriedem | stephenfin: replied | |
| 13:57:02 | stephenfin | ta | |
| 13:57:04 | mriedem | stephenfin: if we're going to play fast and loose we should at least have a release note | |
| 13:58:51 | bhagyashris | jaypipes: Thanks for your inputs :) | |
| 13:59:02 | stephenfin | mriedem: 'upgrade' section? | |
| 13:59:26 | mriedem | stephenfin: yeah i suppose | |
| 14:03:20 | sean-k-mooney | efried: hehe that is more my email client enforcing it then i doing it intentionally but thanks in any case. | |
| 14:04:32 | openstackgerrit | Stephen Finucane proposed openstack/nova master: rbd: Remove unnecessary 'encode' calls https://review.openstack.org/412356 | |
| 14:04:49 | stephenfin | sean-k-mooney: I'd suggest using something like Evolution but don't - it's buggy af :( | |
| 14:06:00 | sean-k-mooney | stephenfin: currently im still using outlook because im too lazy to figure out how to get tunderbird to work with our exchange servers. but since you helped me to get inline respconces to text only mail working i think it does the job well enough | |
| 14:06:25 | stephenfin | mriedem: Done. The important bit is that this will only affect users running under Python 3 | |
| 14:07:04 | stephenfin | sean-k-mooney: Heh, I actually blogged that when I left Intel https://that.guru/blog/sane-outlook/ | |
| 14:07:13 | stephenfin | one of my very few posts. I should probably use that more | |
| 14:08:14 | sean-k-mooney | oh cool i should send that to sdake | |
| 14:09:06 | sean-k-mooney | sdake: you were asking how i got outlook to work with inline plain text before. stephens blog should help https://that.guru/blog/sane-outlook/ | |
| 14:10:21 | sean-k-mooney | stephenfin: speanking of blogs in need to set min up again ... | |
| 14:10:26 | bauzas | mriedem: could you please tell me again which series to review ? I now have a new laptop and I don't find it | |
| 14:10:30 | sdake | sean-k-mooney the problem is the line doesn't break in replies | |
| 14:10:52 | sdake | sean-k-mooney therefore one cnnot reply inline | |
| 14:11:01 | bauzas | mriedem: I mean, the bug series about the problems with allocations | |
| 14:11:08 | sdake | stephenfin does your solution fix thta? | |
| 14:11:19 | sdake | sean-k-mooney everyting I've read says its an outlook bug and microsoft doesn't care | |
| 14:11:38 | stephenfin | sdake: Afraid not, I'd to guess what 80 characters looked like | |
| 14:11:39 | sdake | it has to dowith the way word is integrated into outlook | |
| 14:11:55 | mriedem | bauzas: starts here https://review.openstack.org/#/c/499678/3 | |
| 14:12:00 | bauzas | mriedem: ta | |
| 14:12:03 | bauzas | CC'ing | |
| 14:12:10 | stephenfin | MS don't care for plain text. If you use outlook.com and try to switch to plain text, you suddenly can't paste links | |
| 14:12:16 | mriedem | bauzas: and https://review.openstack.org/#/c/498861/ | |
| 14:12:17 | sdake | stephenfin there is a bar on the left side of replies, - it has nothign to do with 80 chars however the bar can't be broken - if there are 4 layers of replies, there is no way to "put a new reply" in | |
| 14:12:35 | stephenfin | It formats them as HTML | |
| 14:12:44 | bauzas | mriedem: will reviewing them in the next hour | |
| 14:12:47 | bauzas | thanks | |
| 14:12:49 | sean-k-mooney | sdake: this is what it looks like when i reply http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2017-September/121804.html | |
| 14:13:14 | stephenfin | sdake: Ah, I remember that, though not what I did to resolve it | |
| 14:13:37 | sdake | i am on outlook 2016 | |
| 14:13:44 | sdake | 2016 is where is broke - it worked on 2013 and prior | |
| 14:13:53 | openstackgerrit | Rodolfo Alonso Hernandez proposed openstack/os-vif master: Add VersionedObjectPrintable mixin https://review.openstack.org/493082 | |
| 14:13:54 | bauzas | FWIW, I now have again an Entry button \o/ | |
| 14:14:04 | sdake | it even worked briefly for 2016 | |
| 14:14:08 | sdake | sean-k-mooney are ou using 2016 outlook? | |
| 14:14:26 | stephenfin | sdake: Maybe it's a feature, heh | |
| 14:14:27 | sean-k-mooney | sdake: no still on 2013 i am afraid | |
| 14:14:37 | stephenfin | For what it's worth, I ended up using Mutt for everything except openstack-dev in the end (ovs-dev, patchwork, dpdk-dev etc.) | |
| 14:14:39 | sdake | sean-k-mooney if you want a sane mail client don't upgrade | |
| 14:14:59 | sdake | i just use gmail for mailing lists - since i can actually reply | |
| 14:15:06 | openstackgerrit | Rodolfo Alonso Hernandez proposed openstack/os-vif master: Migration from ``ip`` commands to ``pyroute2`` https://review.openstack.org/484386 | |
| 14:15:27 | sean-k-mooney | sdake: if i do an os reinstall or upgrade ill just setup tunderbird. but since outlook is not currently broken im not going to change it | |
| 14:15:48 | stephenfin | Exchange is still an excellent protocol (at least from a usability perspective), but the lack of things like auto-wrap in Outlook makes it tough to work with | |
| 14:15:59 | stephenfin | sean-k-mooney: Good luck. That is also terrible, IMO | |
| 14:17:03 | sean-k-mooney | stephenfin: well i have been usingin it since i created my first email account at home so im used to it. it works for me. | |
| 14:18:04 | stephenfin | sean-k-mooney: Ah, then you're not too badly off. I thought it was ugly as sin and calendering with Gmail was seriously broken. Evolution would be excellent if it just weren't so damn buggy :( | |
| 14:20:25 | sean-k-mooney | im currently in a "its not broke so im not going to fix it" mode with my apps and workflow. eventully ill upgrading things when i have too. | |
| 14:22:21 | sean-k-mooney | its kindo fo like openstack. our dev cloud has been running on newton rc1 for almost a year. it is now finally beging to have issue so im going to go strait to stable pike once kolla-ansible make its release but while it was working no need to upgrade it | |
| 14:24:33 | openstackgerrit | Matt Riedemann proposed openstack/nova master: Moving more utils to ServerResourceAllocationTestBase https://review.openstack.org/499539 | |
| 14:24:34 | openstackgerrit | Matt Riedemann proposed openstack/nova master: Refactor ServerMovingTests for non-move tests https://review.openstack.org/498596 | |
| 14:24:34 | openstackgerrit | Matt Riedemann proposed openstack/nova master: Test resource allocation during soft delete https://review.openstack.org/495159 | |
| 14:33:29 | sdake | stephenfin i used thunderbird for 10 years - your correct it is awful :) | |
| 14:34:05 | sdake | if i relaly feel like osme pain I use mac mail for responding to mailing lists and outlook for reading | |
| 14:34:24 | sdake | wish i could find a mail client that worked with exchange that was good | |
| 14:34:40 | sdake | there is this rockin mac client, however, it lacks exchange support...... | |
| 14:34:52 | sdake | in other words, its useless :) | |
| 14:36:37 | openstackgerrit | Matt Riedemann proposed openstack/nova master: Remove compatibility code for flavors https://review.openstack.org/460377 | |
| 14:37:09 | sean-k-mooney | stephenfin: by the way, you mentioned before that we can associate multiple email accounts with a singel openstack account correct? do you have a link to how to do this. if not ill just google it | |
| 14:38:13 | stephenfin | sean-k-mooney: Sure. Sec | |
| 14:38:55 | stephenfin | sean-k-mooney: So I _think_ you do it from Launchpad. Go to https://launchpad.net/ and click your user in the top right | |
| 14:40:12 | stephenfin | That'll bring you to your profile. Emails are listed on the left. IIRC, this gets propagated to Gerrit | |
| 14:41:45 | dansmith | hope you guys don't mind me interrupting the email chat to talk about nova... | |
| 14:42:05 | dansmith | mriedem: so the people working on skip level upgrades pointed out that our ironic flavor migration thing will be a problem for them, | |
| 14:42:11 | sean-k-mooney | ok ill give that a try and if it doesnt work ill ask the infra guys next week. | |
| 14:42:29 | dansmith | which is correct, and a little contrary to the promises we've been making about being able to do offline upgrades with nova-manage | |
| 14:42:36 | sean-k-mooney | dansmith: sorry :) | |
| 14:42:46 | dansmith | so I'm trying to think about the best way to make that doable without compute running | |
| 14:42:48 | dansmith | sean-k-mooney: :) | |
| 14:43:25 | dansmith | mriedem: I'm thinking that the best plan would just be a dedicated subcommand for this specific case since it's kinda weird | |
| 14:43:28 | mriedem | dansmith: well, we can do some purely db intensive stuff in nova-manage | |
| 14:44:01 | dansmith | mriedem: yeah, but we need to know which instances are ironic and not, so I'm kinda thinking that maybe we should make a dedicated command that takes an ironic compute's hostname and migrates instances that are on that compute | |
| 14:44:11 | dansmith | which makes it not really fit the online-data-migrations model | |
| 14:44:23 | dtantsur | mriedem: hey! when do you folks plan on finalizing your PTG schedule? I specifically wonder about the scheduling discussion, as we have a couple of topics there | |
| 14:44:25 | mriedem | we can figure out the ironic nodes via the hypervisor_type on the compute_nodes table right? | |
| 14:44:37 | mriedem | dtantsur: it's something i need to work on this week | |
| 14:44:40 | dansmith | mriedem: we can yeah | |
| 14:44:52 | mriedem | it's pretty open ended atm, except for thursday morning being cinder time | |
| 14:45:58 | dtantsur | mriedem: we have a few topics depending on the scheduling discussion outcome to an extent. so I guess Wed would work better, probably afternoon. | |