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#openstack-nova - 2017-08-29
14:24:12 artom claudiub|2, there was also https://review.openstack.org/#/c/471116/
14:24:25 artom But again, passed the gate, so by itself it's not the issue
14:24:37 zul andreaf: check with jamespage
14:24:56 artom claudiub|2, I don't suppose you're running with nova-network by omission?
14:25:14 claudiub|2 artom: i don't think i've ever used nova-network. :)
14:25:25 artom claudiub|2, good.
14:25:36 andreaf zul: cool thanks - jamespage: this is the tempest patch https://review.openstack.org/#/c/492577/
14:26:00 andreaf jamespage: and this is nova-lxd code that would be affected http://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack/nova-lxd/tree/nova_lxd_tempest_plugin/tests/api/compute/servers/test_create_server.py
14:26:14 artom claudiub|2, I'm sorry I can't be of more help, but I feel like you'll have to dig into tempest to figure out why it's doing that
14:26:46 artom The test itself doesn't assign any floating IPs, it just sets validatable=True
14:26:51 claudiub|2 artom: yeah, will do. thanks for the input though. :)
14:26:58 artom And then tempest does its thing behind the scenes
14:29:44 artom claudiub|2, it may have something to do with the tenant network in your deployment: https://github.com/openstack/tempest/blob/master/tempest/common/compute.py#L206
14:31:03 stephenfin mriedem, jaypipes: Fancy taking a look at these? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/498817/ and successors
14:31:26 stephenfin They fix some broken links that dhellmann pointed out and should be backported to Pike
14:31:37 mriedem stephenfin: seems like something sdague would have an opinion about
14:31:40 mriedem regarding layout
14:31:50 stephenfin Indeed. Any idea when he's back?
14:31:57 mriedem this week
14:32:00 mriedem he was here yesterday
14:32:11 stephenfin Oh, then I can wait for him too
14:32:23 stephenfin (fwiw, I'm mostly just moving his stuff about)
14:34:43 openstackgerrit Matt Riedemann proposed openstack/nova master: Add functional recreate test for live migration pre-check fails https://review.openstack.org/498627
14:35:24 claudiub|2 artom: hm, so basically, the fip is always associated with the tenant network. while the NIC which gets to be eth0 in the VM is random for me.
14:36:15 claudiub|2 artom: while before it seems that the fip was associated with the VM, not just one port.
14:36:16 sdague stephenfin: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/498817/1/doc/source/index.rst I really don't want to do that until we decide that's our direction at PTG
14:36:26 sdague because we just went the other way
14:37:01 stephenfin sdague: We don't have much of a choice though. If we don't do this, we can't hook into the likes of https://docs.openstack.org/pike/user/
14:37:27 sdague stephenfin: we can
14:37:41 stephenfin We need solid landing pages for each of those. I can duplicate stuff into the main index page, but that seems rather unhelpful :/
14:37:43 sdague we don't have to take out all the deep linking from the main index page
14:38:10 sdague stephenfin: people are navigating in from all different directions, having every single one of them being explainatory is good
14:38:41 stephenfin Would a simple '.. include' of each index page be a viable option?
14:38:56 stephenfin *...option, in that case?
14:38:59 sdague stephenfin: I don't know, it probably won't be coherent
14:39:16 stephenfin Aye, probably not :/
14:39:39 sdague It's really ok to explain things multiple ways and give multiple setups for why following a link is useful before you do it
14:39:41 mriedem so the problem is you get this today? https://docs.openstack.org/nova/pike/user/
14:39:47 mriedem which has no index
14:39:57 sdague mriedem: right, we should *definitely* fix that
14:40:24 mriedem same for https://docs.openstack.org/pike/admin/ and others i imagine
14:40:25 sdague which is this - https://review.openstack.org/#/c/498817/1/doc/source/user/index.rst
14:40:28 sdague which is fine
14:40:34 mriedem oh we have https://docs.openstack.org/nova/pike/admin/
14:40:35 sdague we actually have an admin index already
14:40:45 mriedem and https://docs.openstack.org/nova/pike/reference/
14:40:56 sdague my objection is stripping out the context from https://review.openstack.org/#/c/498817/1/doc/source/index.rst at the same time
14:40:59 mriedem so yeah why not just fix the user index?
14:41:04 stephenfin the admin index needs work though. It's ugly as sin :)
14:41:11 sdague stephenfin: sure, which is fine
14:41:20 stephenfin mriedem: because it's basically duplicating exactly what's on the main index
14:41:29 sdague I think the point is we need to realize that *all* of these are landing pages, for different contexts
14:41:29 stephenfin like, I cut and paste
14:41:36 sdague stephenfin: which is fine
14:42:21 sdague nova needs a coherent landing page for hitting the nova docs directly, the various guides need index pages that make sense in the context of the content they are exposed in
14:42:22 mriedem stephenfin: why would it be the same as the main index?
14:42:28 mriedem shouldn't /user just be what's in https://docs.openstack.org/nova/latest/#for-end-users ?
14:42:31 mriedem from the main page?
14:42:39 stephenfin sdague: I don't know. It seems impractical to be taking a two hat approach in the long term
14:42:40 mriedem and exclude "for operators" and "for contributors" stuff
14:42:51 sdague stephenfin: that's what good documentation looks like
14:43:02 sdague it has a context and an audience
14:43:18 stephenfin But...but...bother and hassle :(
14:43:30 stephenfin So if I drop the index page changes, the rest of it is reasonable enough?
14:43:34 sdague the deep content isn't replicated, but the context and "why would I ever want to follow this link" is taylored to the reader you expect
14:43:37 stephenfin at least, at first glance
14:43:44 sdague stephenfin: yeh, I'd be fine with that
14:44:01 stephenfin Kewl. I'll do that.
14:44:21 stephenfin which isn't to say I'm enamoured with leaving the index page the way it is, but that's PTG stuff
14:44:35 stephenfin Also, mriedem: that's what I did :)
14:44:53 stephenfin But I stripped the stuff from the main index page then as duplication
14:46:07 mriedem your proposed user index has a bunch of operator stuff in it
14:46:28 mriedem and nothing about the API version history or compute API reference
14:46:32 gibi cdent, mriedem: fyi, there is a resource allocation bug in resize same host when custom resources are involved: https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/1713739
14:46:32 mriedem which an end user would want
14:46:33 openstack Launchpad bug 1713739 in OpenStack Compute (nova) "VM resize and confirm on the same host fails with custom resources" [Undecided,New]
14:46:51 gibi cdent, mriedem: regression test is being created
14:46:52 cdent gibi: we were having _so_ much fun until you came back
14:47:27 stephenfin mriedem: Yeah, none of that is in the '/user' directory though. I was keeping only that stuff in there. A cross-reference wouldn't be any harm tho
14:48:02 mriedem i guess that is either external or in reference directory
14:48:35 sdague stephenfin: we don't strictly have to only list stuff in /user
14:48:38 mriedem guh, so...just have source/user/index.rst link back to the top level main index and be done with it
14:48:42 gibi cdent: It is not my finding :) I just suggested the certain test case to be created
14:49:11 sdague honestly, to avoid 404s, I'd say just write the user guide we think should be there, link whatever content is whereever, and it's fine
14:49:19 sdague links are not restricted about where they can go
14:49:36 sdague and the only people that will care that user isn't in the url are in this room
14:49:38 cdent the bug makes sense: the allocation creation routines are insufficiently custom resource class aware
14:49:43 cdent gibi: ^
14:50:26 openstackgerrit Steve Noyes proposed openstack/nova master: update live migration to use v3 cinder api https://review.openstack.org/463987
14:51:12 sean-k-mooney stephenfin: did ye bottom out on how to handel pci devices on power yesterday?
14:51:37 gibi cdent: interestingly we only see problems in the resize same host case so far
14:51:52 openstackgerrit Ed Leafe proposed openstack/nova-specs master: Return Destination Objects https://review.openstack.org/498830
14:52:42 edleafe mriedem: dansmith: cdent: jaypipes: ^^ wrote a quick spec on the object solution we discussed yesterday. Feedback appreciated!
14:53:13 cdent edleafe: thanks. probably won’t have a chance to look with any rigor until tomorrow afternoon
14:53:43 openstackgerrit Ed Leafe proposed openstack/nova-specs master: Return Destination Objects https://review.openstack.org/498830
14:54:09 jaypipes edleafe: cool. will review this evening.
14:54:13 jaypipes edleafe: which is soon :)
14:54:17 edleafe jaypipes: thx
14:54:21 stephenfin sean-k-mooney: I think efried and claudiub|2 opened some blueprints
14:54:37 stephenfin https://blueprints.launchpad.net/nova/+spec/allow-pci-alias-choose-subset-of-devices and https://blueprints.launchpad.net/nova/+spec/devices-as-resources

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