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#openstack-nova - 2017-08-22
18:07:57 clarkb (also I'll have to dig more to see where it set up stack user)
18:08:02 mriedem idk
18:16:15 jlk mriedem: is all of instance resize handled by the migration code paths now?
18:16:44 mriedem jlk: it always was
18:16:51 jlk mriedem: I could have sworn that in older releases (mitaka/newton) that a resize specifically did some ssh'ing around as the user running the nova process
18:17:26 mriedem resize has always equaled the cold migration code paths,
18:17:32 mriedem only difference is the flavor being the same or not
18:17:36 jlk but maybe that's because we had: live_migration_uri = "qemu+ssh://nova@%s/system?keyfile={{ nova.state_path }}/.ssh/id_rsa"
18:18:53 mriedem dansmith: tests are passing, just doing another run with everything to make sure i'm not missing some failing test
18:18:56 clarkb my understanding when we set this up for multinode testing wasw there isn't any reason to not just use root beacuse libvirt ~= root. Which is why we set up root ssh. But its been a while. I bet jogo remembers
18:19:39 jlk I think our local config was not happy about allowing incoming root ssh
18:19:41 mriedem i think if you tunnel via libvirt between the two nodes then that might be ok, but i don't think we're tunneling
18:19:43 jlk so we shunted it to nova
18:19:55 mriedem in devstack i mean
18:20:18 mriedem ganlaksh: hi, i saw your email, sorry i've been busy and haven't had a chance to respond
18:20:53 mriedem ganlaksh: https://docs.openstack.org/nova/latest/#for-contributors would be good to step through if you haven't yet
18:20:59 mriedem note that some of it might be outdated
18:22:59 ganlaksh mriedem: Thanks! Yes I have been going through these docs .. Will continue to look into it..
18:27:04 mriedem ganlaksh: are you interested in working on a specific part of nova?
18:27:31 mriedem also, what timezone are you in?
18:28:27 openstackgerrit Matt Riedemann proposed openstack/nova master: Allocate resources on forced dest host during live migration https://review.openstack.org/496031
18:28:27 openstackgerrit Matt Riedemann proposed openstack/nova master: Remove source node allocation after live migration completes https://review.openstack.org/496032
18:28:40 mriedem dansmith: cfriesen_: here we are ^
18:34:01 ganlaksh mriedem: I am in the PT zone.. with respect to my areas of interest . i dont have any specific right now.. I would like to pick up some bugs and go through the process.. from the top of my mind.. cells,live-migration, Vmware would be some areas I would be interested in.. I am looking at the tracking page here for the subteams .
18:35:12 mriedem ok, vmware hasn't had much activity in awhile, so if you could dig through some vmware-related bugs and see if they are still valid that would be helpful
18:35:13 ganlaksh mriedem: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/pike-nova-priorities-tracking. tracking page that i referenced
18:35:45 mriedem ganlaksh: ok that's likely stale at this point
18:35:58 mriedem pike is about to be released, so we'll start focusing on the next release, which is named queens
18:36:13 mriedem ganlaksh: here are open vmware bugs https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bugs?field.tag=vmware
18:37:06 mriedem i don't really know of any easy things for live migration or cells v2 to get started; there were some blueprints related to live migration in pike that had approved design specs but the owners couldn't work on them so they didn't get done
18:37:44 mriedem specifically https://specs.openstack.org/openstack/nova-specs/specs/pike/approved/live-migration-force-after-timeout.html and https://specs.openstack.org/openstack/nova-specs/specs/pike/approved/live-migration-per-instance-timeout.html
18:38:15 mriedem we know we're going to need to work on all of these items for cells v2 in queens https://docs.openstack.org/nova/latest/user/cellsv2_layout.html#operations-requiring-upcalls
18:38:38 ganlaksh mriedem:Ok.. sure. thanks ! Well.let me go through these specs.. arent there any bugs (low hanging fruits!) that i can start working on with respect to live-migration and cells.
18:38:38 mriedem those aren't trivial though
18:38:56 mriedem live migration is really never a low hanging fruit bug type thing :)
18:39:11 ganlaksh mriedem : :)
18:39:23 mriedem looks like there are some open low hanging fruit bugs you could look at though https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bugs?field.tag=low-hanging-fruit
18:40:51 mriedem the next upcoming in-person event is the ptg in denver, colorado the week of 9/11
18:40:57 mriedem topics for nova at the ptg are being listed here https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/nova-ptg-queens
18:41:18 mriedem if you wanted to get an idea of what we'll be thinking about for the next release
18:41:39 ganlaksh mriedem: Thanks ! i will go through these..
18:42:02 openstackgerrit Merged openstack/nova master: Skip test_rebuild_server_in_error_state for cells v1 https://review.openstack.org/493076
18:42:04 mriedem ganlaksh: final thing, are you subscribed to the openstack-dev mailing list?
18:42:28 ganlaksh mriedem: yes..i am .. i am getting the mails...
18:42:42 mriedem ok, be sure to setup filters and route things to folders if you don't want to get overwhelmed
18:42:53 mriedem e.g. i have a nova folder and i send things there that have [nova] in the subject
18:43:35 ganlaksh mriedem: One final question .. I have been using only devstack for playing around.. Is that good enough or what is the recommended thing to do for working on bugs ..
18:43:52 ganlaksh mriedem: Sure will have a folder to get all nova stuff..
18:45:34 mriedem devstack is good enough
18:45:48 mriedem if you want to poke around on the CLI and test things out in a single-node env
18:46:27 ganlaksh mriedem: Ok cool !
19:00:10 openstackgerrit Matt Riedemann proposed openstack/nova master: Remove source node allocation after live migration completes https://review.openstack.org/496032
19:02:44 mriedem cfriesen_: were you working on this? https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/1712210
19:02:45 openstack Launchpad bug 1712210 in OpenStack Compute (nova) "Live migration does not restrict to the original cell" [Medium,Triaged] - Assigned to Chris Friesen (cbf123)
19:02:54 mriedem if not i'll fix it quick
19:05:31 mriedem dansmith: something we likely don't want to think about, but if we allocate resources in placement for the dest host during live migration but then something fails and the instance never makes it to the dest node, we aren't cleaning up those allocations anywhere
19:06:21 mriedem the periodic task would have, but that's no longer doing it once everything is upgraded
19:07:29 mriedem i reckon once have the allocations counted against a migration uuid, we could put a periodic in compute that checks for failed migrations where dest_compute == CONF.host and removes any leftover allocations
19:12:21 openstackgerrit Eric Berglund proposed openstack/nova master: WIP: PowerVM Driver: config drive https://review.openstack.org/409404
19:12:31 openstackgerrit Eric Berglund proposed openstack/nova master: WIP: PowerVM Driver: config drive https://review.openstack.org/409404
19:14:54 cdent mriedem: migration uuid will fix everything!
19:15:10 mriedem i hope so
19:15:16 cdent _everything_
19:16:35 mriedem https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/1712411 for tracking
19:16:36 openstack Launchpad bug 1712411 in OpenStack Compute (nova) "Allocations may not be removed from dest node during failed migrations" [Undecided,New]
19:17:15 mriedem i'm not sure we'd even need the allocation tracked against the migration uuid
19:17:55 mriedem the migration record has a status (error), dest_compute, and instance_uuid in it, that's basically all we'd need for a periodic task in the compute to look for failed migrations targeted themselves and remove the allocations for the dest node and the instance involved in the migration
19:18:25 mriedem using scheduler report client remove_provider_from_instance_allocation
19:34:51 cdent mriedem: your attention to detail is appreciated
19:38:34 dansmith mriedem: the allocation for the migration_uuid can be cleanup-able by whoever doesn't have the instance after the failure,
19:38:59 dansmith and we could have a nova-manage command (or something) that would look at all the active migrations, see which are stalled/failed, and make sure to clean up the allocations for them or something
19:39:01 dansmith but yeah
19:39:20 mriedem sure it doesn't really matter who does it
19:43:31 mriedem things also get weird when you have the ability to cancel an in-progress migration
19:45:36 mriedem if only we had, like, a periodic task in the compute service that would, like, automatically heal the allocations....
19:45:40 mriedem o-)
19:51:38 cburgess @dansmit Do I recall correctly something about an issue with flavor migration on upgrade to N or O around the created_at, deleted_at, and updated_at columns? I feel like you mentioned that to me at a summit or PTG or something?
19:51:45 cburgess @dansmith even ^^^^
19:52:02 dansmith um
19:52:29 dansmith cburgess: which flavor migration are you talking about? the more recent one with moving them from the nova to api database?
19:52:46 cburgess Yeah the code in nova/objects/flavor in Ocata.
19:52:59 cburgess dansmith Though it looks like Newton does the same thing.
19:53:02 cburgess Maybe..
19:53:20 dansmith maybe that there is no soft delete in the api database?
19:53:29 mriedem there would be no deleted_at column either
19:53:40 mriedem because of what dan said
19:54:25 mriedem cburgess: you see it in newton b/c it was added in newton
19:54:49 mriedem https://github.com/openstack/nova/commit/e05acd2005d22556918a60a7621e463b593c34e6
19:55:03 cburgess Right ok..
19:55:54 cburgess So we are getting a mysql exception when we try and do the online migration. Its due to the data time formant. The DB has it stored as ISO formant but the migration is expecting it in mysql datetime it looks like. Does that ring a bell?
19:55:58 cburgess Like we missed a step?
19:56:45 cburgess Feels like we have to be missing something because this is too obvious a bug.
19:57:00 mriedem seems like someone was in here talking about something similar a couple of weeks ago
19:57:35 cburgess Maybe @kbringard who is hitting it on our side?
19:57:49 kbringard http://i.imgur.com/SMI1LKj.gif
19:59:24 kbringard @cburgess what now?
19:59:29 cburgess @kbringard well seems like @mriedem and @dansmith don't recall anything like this so... file a bug and propose your patch. Assuming we are right and it merges it would be worth of a backport to the stable branches.
20:00:08 cburgess I need to stop @
20:00:09 cburgess Stupid twitter habbit.
20:01:19 dansmith cburgess: kbringard yeah I don't know anything about a date format issue

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