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#openstack-nova - 2017-08-22
14:37:42 mriedem so i likely have to pass a skip_filters flag to select_destinations now
14:37:59 mriedem or have conductor create the allocations for the dest, which we talked about not wanting to do
14:38:07 dansmith mriedem: I missed the discussion on what this changes
14:38:13 mriedem hangout?
14:38:16 dansmith okay
14:38:58 dansmith mriedem: https://hangouts.google.com/call/ouqrk7fijja6pkeeackdtnuc7iu
14:49:42 tobasco interesting, this patch was merged 2 years and 9 months ago and still exists in master https://review.openstack.org/#/c/109537/
14:49:56 tobasco so you cannot boot vm:s from cinder volumes using vda since then
14:50:34 tobasco hitting this when testing upgrade between liberty->mitaka
14:57:50 openstackgerrit Elod Illes proposed openstack/nova master: Cover migration fail case with functional test https://review.openstack.org/496280
15:02:33 smcginnis tobasco: Still hitting that? Someone else in the cinder channel yesterday was having trouble with that too.
15:03:30 smcginnis tobasco: This worked for them for the first attempt, then they got DB errors after that: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/428481/
15:04:45 tobasco smcginnis: hm is that really related thought
15:05:28 tobasco im comparing and trying to figure out why it check source_type in mitaka and destination_type in master for the BDM, I assume that part has been severely changed.
15:05:33 smcginnis tobasco: Oh, probably not. Sorry, I scanned that too quickly.
15:05:50 tobasco smcginnis: thanks thought :)
15:06:28 smcginnis tobasco: You had the other issue in the past though, right? With Cinder volumes getting counted against local space.
15:07:09 tobasco smcginnis: yeah, that's true we are working on moving as many versions as possible now, this is the first hop
15:07:37 tobasco a lot of compatibility checking right now, and was no release notes on the above "force" to vdb mounting volumes as to vda when booting volume as root volume in liberty
15:07:50 tobasco *compared to in liberty
15:08:08 smcginnis tobasco: Ah, can't really help you there, but I'm sure someone else here can. Good luck!
15:09:40 tobasco smcginnis: thanks
15:10:30 openstackgerrit Stephen Finucane proposed openstack/nova master: trivial: Remove some single use function from utils https://review.openstack.org/491513
15:23:07 openstackgerrit Stephen Finucane proposed openstack/nova master: rbd: Remove unnecessary 'encode' calls https://review.openstack.org/412356
15:28:29 tobasco to answer my own question above, you can boot with a volume as root disk using vda if you the root_device_name on the image you are booting to something else and therefore tricking it
15:28:33 tobasco glance image-update --property root_device_name=fake db08860c-84de-4096-a52f-a32236396404
15:28:51 tobasco ugly fix, but this should have been in the release notes, and even perhaps a way to disable the behaviour
15:29:16 tobasco for anybody finding this when searching, i haven't tested this other than with our own very specific use-case
15:30:23 stephenfin mdbooth: Does this make sense? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/491589/
15:43:04 cfriesen_ tobasco: isn't the patch you pointed to intended to cover the case where you are doing boot-from-image with a separate volume specified (where the volume isn't the boot disk)
15:48:24 tobasco cfriesen_: unsure, it does apply when just doing the "boot from image (create new volume)" way
15:48:58 tobasco we only do pure cinder backed vm:s with a cinder volume as root disk, setting the root_device_name to something other than vda allowed us to boot the volume as vda.
15:49:33 tobasco note that the ubuntu 16.04 vm interpreted it as one disk and mapped it to vda but openstack said it was vda and set it to "disk 1" instead of 0 in the XML on the kvm node
16:10:44 mriedem dansmith: in the case that claim_resources fails for the dest node, what are you thinking we do? warn and continue to force or fail with NoValidHost?
16:10:54 mriedem s/NoValidHost/MigrationPreCheckError/
16:10:58 cfriesen_ tobasco: sorry, was testing this. for what it's worth, in our Mitaka setup with libvirt/qemu/ceph-based-volumes in the "boot from image (create new volume)" case I get the volume on /dev/vda with the root filesystem on /dev/vda1.
16:11:31 mriedem dansmith: i'm thinking we fail since if the RT isn't going to heal the allocations, we really don't want that missing being claimed for the dest host,
16:11:44 openstackgerrit Merged openstack/nova master: Add description on maximum placement API version https://review.openstack.org/492056
16:11:45 mriedem since it would screw up scheduling decisions for other instances on that node later
16:12:00 dansmith mriedem: yeah have to fail, IMHO
16:12:53 cfriesen_ tobasco: this is with no ephemeral/swap configured.
16:16:29 cfriesen_ mriedem: dansmith: for what it's worth, I agree with failing if we can't claim resources. otherwise it'd cause an unholy mess for things like cpu pinning, PCI devices, hugepages, etc.
16:26:25 mriedem ok got the code fix, running the functional test now to make sure it's legit
16:41:02 sterdnotshaken How do you delete a network node entirely from Openstack?
16:41:15 sterdnotshaken Let say I have 2 compute and 2 network nodes and the hardware for one of the network nodes fails entirely...
16:41:26 sterdnotshaken So I just want to delete all references to that network node from openstack and create a new network node on new hardware...
16:41:59 mriedem sterdnotshaken: probably better asked in #openstack-operators
16:42:18 sterdnotshaken ok
16:45:12 mriedem well look who it is https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NzWw_uosDnM&index=6&list=PLOuHvpVx7kYksG0NFaCaQsSkrUlj3Oq4S
16:50:19 mriedem alright functional test is passing, time to fix up the unit tests
16:52:47 mriedem melwitt: are you going to sign up for the red hat pike ptg video this time?
16:53:01 mriedem because you should
16:53:28 mriedem you can be like, quotas this, quotas that, something something claims in the scheduler
17:05:19 openstackgerrit Merged openstack/nova master: Add track_instance_changes note in disable_group_policy_check_upcall https://review.openstack.org/490627
17:05:45 openstackgerrit Merged openstack/nova master: doc: code review considerations for online data migrations https://review.openstack.org/491885
17:06:10 openstackgerrit Merged openstack/nova master: Fix a wrong link https://review.openstack.org/494109
17:10:36 openstackgerrit Drew Fisher proposed openstack/nova master: Add language for compute node configuration https://review.openstack.org/489643
17:35:56 mriedem wtf, this is super helpful https://gist.github.com/mriedem/706bcfbac773660310c38ad319ce7fe2
17:36:11 mriedem doesn't exist, create it, sorry it already exists, ok give me it, sorry, it doesn't exist, dummy
17:43:08 mriedem oh SmallFakeDriver, you'll be the death of me
17:57:42 ganlaksh test
18:03:43 clarkb mriedem: dansmith https://docs.openstack.org/nova/latest/admin/ssh-configuration.html says that you need to configure the nova user so that nova can ssh to other compute hosts to move disks around. We don't set this up in devstack-gate/devstack multinode jobs. Is this actually required if using libvirt which ssh's as root?
18:04:41 jlk specifically curious about instance resize
18:05:14 mriedem devstack configures some stuff for live migration using ssh here https://github.com/openstack-dev/devstack/blob/master/lib/nova_plugins/hypervisor-libvirt#L45
18:05:21 mriedem that option is deprecated though
18:05:37 mriedem you can tunnel but i believe that's discouraged
18:06:26 mriedem i had brought up the live_migration_uri confusion in http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2017-June/117987.html
18:06:39 mriedem because i was trying to remove that from devstack
18:07:30 clarkb oh is it using the stack user?
18:07:34 mriedem yes
18:07:46 clarkb then why do we set up ssh for the root user?
18:07:57 clarkb (also I'll have to dig more to see where it set up stack user)
18:08:02 mriedem idk
18:16:15 jlk mriedem: is all of instance resize handled by the migration code paths now?
18:16:44 mriedem jlk: it always was
18:16:51 jlk mriedem: I could have sworn that in older releases (mitaka/newton) that a resize specifically did some ssh'ing around as the user running the nova process
18:17:26 mriedem resize has always equaled the cold migration code paths,
18:17:32 mriedem only difference is the flavor being the same or not
18:17:36 jlk but maybe that's because we had: live_migration_uri = "qemu+ssh://nova@%s/system?keyfile={{ nova.state_path }}/.ssh/id_rsa"
18:18:53 mriedem dansmith: tests are passing, just doing another run with everything to make sure i'm not missing some failing test
18:18:56 clarkb my understanding when we set this up for multinode testing wasw there isn't any reason to not just use root beacuse libvirt ~= root. Which is why we set up root ssh. But its been a while. I bet jogo remembers
18:19:39 jlk I think our local config was not happy about allowing incoming root ssh
18:19:41 mriedem i think if you tunnel via libvirt between the two nodes then that might be ok, but i don't think we're tunneling
18:19:43 jlk so we shunted it to nova
18:19:55 mriedem in devstack i mean
18:20:18 mriedem ganlaksh: hi, i saw your email, sorry i've been busy and haven't had a chance to respond
18:20:53 mriedem ganlaksh: https://docs.openstack.org/nova/latest/#for-contributors would be good to step through if you haven't yet
18:20:59 mriedem note that some of it might be outdated
18:22:59 ganlaksh mriedem: Thanks! Yes I have been going through these docs .. Will continue to look into it..
18:27:04 mriedem ganlaksh: are you interested in working on a specific part of nova?
18:27:31 mriedem also, what timezone are you in?
18:28:27 openstackgerrit Matt Riedemann proposed openstack/nova master: Allocate resources on forced dest host during live migration https://review.openstack.org/496031
18:28:27 openstackgerrit Matt Riedemann proposed openstack/nova master: Remove source node allocation after live migration completes https://review.openstack.org/496032
18:28:40 mriedem dansmith: cfriesen_: here we are ^
18:34:01 ganlaksh mriedem: I am in the PT zone.. with respect to my areas of interest . i dont have any specific right now.. I would like to pick up some bugs and go through the process.. from the top of my mind.. cells,live-migration, Vmware would be some areas I would be interested in.. I am looking at the tracking page here for the subteams .
18:35:12 mriedem ok, vmware hasn't had much activity in awhile, so if you could dig through some vmware-related bugs and see if they are still valid that would be helpful
18:35:13 ganlaksh mriedem: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/pike-nova-priorities-tracking. tracking page that i referenced
18:35:45 mriedem ganlaksh: ok that's likely stale at this point
18:35:58 mriedem pike is about to be released, so we'll start focusing on the next release, which is named queens
18:36:13 mriedem ganlaksh: here are open vmware bugs https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bugs?field.tag=vmware

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