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#openstack-nova - 2017-08-03
20:06:35 openstackgerrit Matt Riedemann proposed openstack/nova master: doc: Import installation guide https://review.openstack.org/477488
20:06:36 openstackgerrit Matt Riedemann proposed openstack/nova master: doc: Import administration guide https://review.openstack.org/477497
20:06:36 openstackgerrit Matt Riedemann proposed openstack/nova master: doc: Rework README to reflect new doc URLs https://review.openstack.org/480074
20:06:37 openstackgerrit Matt Riedemann proposed openstack/nova master: policies: Fix Sphinx issues https://review.openstack.org/480516
20:06:37 openstackgerrit Matt Riedemann proposed openstack/nova master: doc: Start using oslo_policy.sphinxext https://review.openstack.org/479358
20:06:38 openstackgerrit Matt Riedemann proposed openstack/nova master: doc: Remove dead files https://review.openstack.org/478470
20:06:42 mriedem the 3rd party ci says it's working
20:06:52 dansmith link?
20:10:01 mriedem http://dal05.objectstorage.softlayer.net/v1/AUTH_3d8e6ecb-f597-448c-8ec2-164e9f710dd6/pkvmci/nova/65/398265/34/check/tempest-dsvm-full-xenial/8144094/
20:10:05 mriedem they even have a grenade job
20:10:11 mriedem http://dal05.objectstorage.softlayer.net/v1/AUTH_3d8e6ecb-f597-448c-8ec2-164e9f710dd6/pkvmci/nova/65/398265/34/check/grenade-dsvm-xenial/27db95e/
20:10:26 dansmith that's pkvm == powerkvm right?
20:10:34 mriedem yeah
20:10:43 mriedem oh you said powervm via libvirt
20:10:50 dansmith yeah
20:10:55 mriedem yeah nvm then
20:10:58 mmedvede so, it is KVM on Power, not to be confused with PowerKVM OS
20:11:08 mmedvede naming is unfortunate
20:11:29 mriedem https://libvirt.org/drvphyp.html
20:11:47 mriedem is http://www-03.ibm.com/systems/power/software/virtualization/index.html the old powervm driver?
20:11:59 mriedem that ran ssh commands through the vios shell or whatever?
20:12:04 mriedem it's been awhile
20:12:10 dansmith mriedem: phyp via libvirt is the thing I doubt works with nova
20:12:14 dansmith mriedem: which is different than the powervm driver that was in nova at first
20:12:28 dansmith I think the phyp driver uses local hypercall access, IIRC
20:13:02 mriedem hypercall?
20:13:06 mriedem that sounds enterprise ready
20:13:29 dansmith hypercal is like a syscall but to the hypervisor
20:13:31 dansmith *hypercall
20:14:38 efried http://www-03.ibm.com/systems/power/software/virtualization/index.html is the PowerVM that we're enabling via nova.virt.powervm
20:40:15 openstackgerrit Sean Dague proposed openstack/nova master: Add Contributor Guide section page https://review.openstack.org/490644
20:45:04 mriedem ooo team meeting in 15 minutes
20:47:40 sdague mriedem: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/477488 - follow on comment about why it's fine to have it where it is
20:48:13 melwitt mriedem, dansmith: question on the cellsv2 doc https://review.openstack.org/490612
20:48:49 sdague mriedem: basically to make the TOC not complete sidebar vomit, we're going to strip a lot out of it an the front page and build topic landing pages with deep links like - https://review.openstack.org/#/c/490644/
20:49:23 sdague that lets us tidy things up without another giant page shuffle that we'd be 404 chasing
20:49:39 mriedem melwitt: replied
20:50:09 openstackgerrit Merged openstack/nova master: Sum allocations in the scheduler when resizing to the same host https://review.openstack.org/490085
20:52:10 dansmith mriedem: do you remember the name of the affinity reporting conf item? I was going to add that in there for her, but I can never remember the name
20:52:21 melwitt mriedem: okay, so I guess that means there's nothing wrong with compute node reporting, it's just that the lag between the two (report vs affinity check) could cause a problem with parallel requests
20:52:46 dansmith melwitt: no
20:52:56 dansmith melwitt: there is a compute->scheduler reporting mechanism that can't happen either
20:53:09 dansmith track_instance_changes
20:53:18 mriedem yeah that one
20:53:19 dansmith he had it in his previous comment
20:53:21 mriedem i mentioned that eralier
20:53:24 mriedem *earlier even
20:53:37 melwitt okay, maybe I'm hard of reading :(
20:53:38 mriedem there are about 10 pieces to any single affinity filter puzzle
20:54:07 mriedem like, (1) server group (2) scheduler hint (3) filters (4) various config options
20:54:14 mriedem and then, maybe, it might work
20:54:18 dansmith (5) luck
20:55:13 melwitt yeah, it's just when I read "instance info reporting doesn't work" seemed sort of alarming. the second paragraph explains what the end point is, it's just after reading something like "compute node reporting doesn't work" seems sort of alarming, at least to me
20:55:18 openstackgerrit Takashi NATSUME proposed openstack/nova master: Enable cold migration with target host(1/2) https://review.openstack.org/408955
20:55:30 cfriesen dansmith: /s/luck/timing
20:57:24 mriedem melwitt: dansmith: i've thought about putting some details about the issue into the FAQs page, like "why does affinity/anti-affinity seem to suck now with multi-cell?"
20:57:26 dansmith melwitt: better?
20:57:39 dansmith mriedem: s/now.*//
20:57:41 mriedem that's not as discoverable though
20:57:42 mriedem heh
20:57:49 mriedem especially for an end user
20:57:55 openstackgerrit Dan Smith proposed openstack/nova master: Add a caveat section about cellsv2 upcalls https://review.openstack.org/490612
20:58:04 mriedem the end user shouldn't have any idea if the reason things don't work is because of the multi-cell decision in the cloud
20:58:12 dansmith well,
20:58:23 dansmith nor should the user be surprised that the cloud op doesn't have that filter enabled
20:58:25 dansmith but alas
20:59:24 mriedem you've got a bug in there
20:59:36 mriedem i'm intimately familiar with that option now
20:59:50 dansmith I've got a bug in who now?
20:59:55 mriedem your change
20:59:55 melwitt dansmith: yes, much better, thanks. that makes it clear IMHO
21:00:08 mriedem meeting starting
21:00:14 melwitt what's wrong with it?
21:00:35 dansmith oh god ugly
21:00:41 mriedem ha
21:01:20 openstackgerrit Dan Smith proposed openstack/nova master: Add a caveat section about cellsv2 upcalls https://review.openstack.org/490612
21:09:33 openstackgerrit Takashi NATSUME proposed openstack/nova master: Enable cold migration with target host(2/2) https://review.openstack.org/408964
21:09:56 openstackgerrit Takashi NATSUME proposed openstack/nova master: api-ref: Add parameters in cold migrate action https://review.openstack.org/410042
21:12:53 dansmith edleafe: can you push a rev to that spec to address jaypipes' typo nits at least?
21:13:24 edleafe dansmith: sure thing
21:13:36 dansmith thanks
21:18:29 efried jangutter Some colleagues and I are talking about revamping PCI in general and SR-IOV specifically. Please add me to reviews for blueprints and the like.
21:19:02 jangutter efried: will do, I should also be at the Queens PTG.
21:19:27 efried jangutter See you there. We'll hopefully be on the agenda with a (draft, at least) blueprint.
21:21:00 openstackgerrit Matt Riedemann proposed openstack/nova master: Add a caveat section about cellsv2 upcalls https://review.openstack.org/490612
21:21:41 dansmith mriedem: thanks for that.. was going too fast
21:22:46 openstackgerrit Takashi NATSUME proposed openstack/nova master: List/show all server migration types (1/2) https://review.openstack.org/430608
21:26:36 alkhodos_ Hi everyone. I have a question about live migration. Is there an option to migrate a VM with storage? Any help or maybe a doc to look at is is much appreciated, thanks!
21:28:14 cfriesen dansmith: how does the "track_instance_changes" thing work? I see the call to _init_instance_info(), is there a further "track ongoing changes" that isn't covered by a "if self.track_instance_changes" test?
21:28:27 mriedem cfriesen: it's in the scheduler
21:28:32 dansmith cfriesen: when you find out, let me know
21:28:38 mriedem cfriesen: compute rpc casts things to the scheduler
21:28:46 mriedem which then updates the list of tracked instances per HostState object,
21:28:53 mriedem which is used by the affinity filters
21:29:13 cfriesen mriedem: is that part unconditional?
21:29:20 mriedem cfriesen: mind you, that's all computes in the deployment rpc casting to the scheduler (which is probably a single one to avoid collisions) once every minute by default
21:29:28 mriedem cfriesen: which part?
21:29:47 mriedem if you set CONF.filter_scheduler.track_instance_changes=False in nova.conf on the compute, it won't rpc cast to the scheduler
21:29:53 cfriesen the ongoing update...because I only see self.track_instance_changes being tested in one place
21:29:58 mriedem in the periodic or on tracked instance changes, like create or delete or move

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