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#openstack-nova - 2017-08-02
18:54:29 jaypipes dansmith, mriedem: do we still need a patch testing that when ocata computes are in the mix, that pike computes continue to behave badly? if so, I can begin work on that.
18:54:44 mriedem i'll ask for the 7th time, couldn't we handle the ocata->pike issue by not claiming in the scheduler until everything in the compute is working the way we want and restrict the claim in the scheduler until the computes are all >=pike?
18:54:59 mriedem feel free to just say no again :)
18:55:07 dansmith mriedem: and again, it doesn't change anything if we don't claim first
18:55:15 dansmith ocata will still stomp on everything
18:55:31 mriedem ocata won't stomp if it's not ocata
18:55:44 mriedem there is nothing to stomp if we don't put down the stompables until >=pike
18:55:48 jaypipes dansmith: plus we've already released Pike software that always does claiming in the scheduler...
18:56:19 dansmith mriedem: they'll stomp on pike things
18:56:24 jaypipes dansmith: so it would be a pain to have to know whether the software installed does or does not do claims
18:56:47 dansmith mriedem: but again, it doesn't solve anything to not do a thing that gets stomped on anyway
18:56:50 mriedem dansmith: aren't we trying to fix the computes to not stomp on things the scheduler is doing?
18:57:13 dansmith mriedem: not really
18:57:13 mriedem like, make the compute aware of shared storage allocations
18:57:20 dansmith not ocata computes
18:57:26 mriedem right, pike computes
18:57:35 jaypipes mriedem: no. we're trying to fix pikes to not stomp on things that other pike computes may have been doing.
18:57:41 dansmith right
18:57:52 dansmith while still being compatible with ocata computes
18:57:58 jaypipes ya
18:57:58 dansmith and those are somewhat at odds
18:59:23 mriedem ok, so again, it's fixing latent bugs which we didn't care about until those latent bugs affected scheduling decisions, which they do now
18:59:48 dansmith they affect ocata scheduler too
19:00:09 dansmith claiming in the scheduler is after the existing decision gets made on the data we're stomping on
19:00:31 dansmith and the stomping just makes placement think there is more room than there is,
19:00:36 dansmith so not claiming doesn't make anything easier
19:00:44 dansmith it makes it less likely to be right, but that's not really useful
19:01:00 mriedem excluding shared storage providers, the computes are eventually consistent aren't they?
19:01:30 mriedem i'll stop asking questions since these are things i've gone in circles on for 2+ weeks now
19:04:47 dansmith I've about got all three patches working together
19:04:58 dansmith which is scary, because I think I was supposed to modify the compute side code to make this work and I haven't done that yet
19:05:11 dansmith (nor do I remember what that was anymore)
19:05:41 mriedem are you fixing the issue in my patch?
19:06:04 dansmith which issue?
19:06:24 openstackgerrit Matt Riedemann proposed openstack/nova master: WIP: Sum allocations in the scheduler when resizing to the same host https://review.openstack.org/490085
19:06:25 openstackgerrit Matt Riedemann proposed openstack/nova master: WIP: Handle shared storage allocations when resize to same host https://review.openstack.org/490159
19:06:30 mriedem self.assertFlavorMatcheAllocation
19:06:37 mriedem ^ fixed
19:07:35 dansmith well, I'm just going to push over top of yours
19:07:38 dansmith but yeah I had fixed that
19:09:57 dansmith ooh, nice I'm getting a 500 from placement now
19:10:40 cdent nice work dansmith
19:11:03 dansmith I'll fix this undoubling thing and then push to let you placement peeps look at the 500
19:11:23 cdent yeah, I can look at that when there are some details
19:12:58 mriedem i'm really confused because https://review.openstack.org/490159 is passing the test i added w/o any code changes to handle it
19:15:42 dansmith mriedem: passing what? it failed gibi's same host tests when I put it on top
19:16:07 mriedem this is the shared storage + resize to same host one
19:16:18 mriedem https://review.openstack.org/#/c/490159/ adds a unit test for that and i expected it to fail
19:18:17 mriedem heh
19:18:17 mriedem oh no, i know why it's passing
19:18:45 mriedem yup
19:19:15 mriedem i'll just squash those changes together
19:19:27 dansmith mriedem: can you hold off?
19:19:29 mriedem cdent: ^ is why i'm looping the allocations
19:19:35 dansmith I have a bunch of cuts against all three of these patches
19:19:35 mriedem rather than assuming there is 1
19:19:42 mriedem dansmith: like, deep cuts?
19:19:47 dansmith gashes
19:19:56 dansmith with rusty blades
19:20:10 mriedem i meant like https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KCdKBHdPz30
19:20:13 mriedem deep cuts
19:20:18 dansmith heh
19:20:20 dansmith nice one
19:21:12 mriedem btw, fagen is forced to tour again https://qz.com/1041397/steely-dans-donald-fagen-is-back-on-tour-the-result-of-nobody-buying-music-albums-anymore/
19:21:19 mriedem streaming music has broken him
19:21:50 mriedem he should probably talk to a financial advisor about diversifying his portfolio
19:22:04 melwitt lol
19:22:38 dfisher is there a known issue with calling nova.context.get_admin_context() from within a virt driver? http://paste.openstack.org/show/617308/
19:23:11 melwitt did not expect that article to mention Ronnie James Dio
19:23:18 mriedem hologram dio
19:23:20 mriedem terrible
19:23:26 melwitt I know, like, seriously?
19:23:49 mriedem i was at a sabbath reunion show once and dio scolded the audience and threatened to cut the show and leave if they didn't settle down
19:24:30 dansmith cripes
19:24:43 dansmith jaypipes: how do we get the old_flavor if we're here: https://github.com/openstack/nova/blob/master/nova/compute/resource_tracker.py#L460-L460 ?
19:25:16 mriedem dansmith: isn't old_flavor stored on the instance?
19:25:41 dansmith mriedem: well, I would assume not at this point since we go to great lengths to look it up on L443
19:26:05 mriedem maybe that predates the old_flavor being stored on the instance?
19:26:08 dansmith no,
19:26:13 dansmith we set it to None before we call this here:
19:26:31 dansmith https://github.com/openstack/nova/blob/master/nova/compute/manager.py#L3501-L3521
19:26:34 dansmith son of a goat
19:26:41 mriedem is it stashed on the migration record?
19:26:46 dansmith no, only the id
19:26:55 mriedem # NOTE(danms): delete stashed migration information
19:26:55 mriedem ha
19:27:02 mriedem BUT WHY?!
19:27:02 dansmith wait
19:27:20 dansmith we pass old_instance_type for instance_type,
19:27:27 dansmith but clearly that can be None sometimes
19:27:30 dansmith but I don't know when
19:27:36 dansmith maybe if we're doing a migrate?
19:27:43 mriedem probably yeah
19:27:47 mriedem no old/new if it's not a resize
19:27:48 dansmith so maybe I can use old_instance_type or instance.flavor
19:27:54 mriedem f yes you can
19:30:53 mriedem dfisher: if you're using a recent devstack, it's running in superconductor mode which means you can't do retries from the compute
19:31:00 mriedem it can't upcall to the api db to get instance group info
19:31:16 mriedem if you're doing some crazy crap in the oracle virt driver, then you're on your own
19:32:49 dfisher i'm really not doing anything crazy … I don't think.

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