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#openstack-nova - 2017-06-12
13:44:39 artom_ I didn't hallucinate the code being duplicated
13:44:52 rfolco cdent, so why we actually do those increments like self._resource_providers[rp_uuid]['generation'] = cur_rp_gen + 1 ?
13:45:22 mriedem artom_: heh yeah i hadn't seen the actual code in that ocata backport yet
13:45:46 rfolco cdent, I remember after that suggestion on previous patchset, I had to change the gabbit tests and increase resource gen
13:45:48 cdent rfolco: because we can assume that on the server side the generication has incremented, because that's what happens when you do a write. the client side adjustment is to help keep the client side cache in sync
13:45:58 openstackgerrit Stephen Finucane proposed openstack/nova master: utils: Replace 'utf8' with oslo.utils equivalent https://review.openstack.org/466799
13:46:45 rfolco cdent, fair. I'll address the new tests in a separate patch. Thanks.
13:46:54 artom_ Anyways, I'm supposed to be on PTO and I have two toddlers running around, I shouldn't even be here
13:47:02 cdent rfolco: no, thank you
13:47:14 jaypipes bauzas: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/473377/ is the initial work around the alternative allocation requests implementation.
13:47:28 rfolco cdent, no? :)
13:47:33 lyarwood mriedem / artom_ ; what on earth, that was a webui cherry pick as it had recently been modified, I assumed gerrit wouldn't allow you to do something like this but nvm...
13:47:49 cdent rfolco: as in: no need to thank me, you're the one doing the hard work here
13:48:31 rfolco cdent, heh thank you for the patience and guidance on placement api stuff.
13:55:11 edleafe Scheduler subteam meeting in 5 minutes in #openstack-meeting-alt
13:55:34 openstackgerrit Matt Wisch proposed openstack/nova master: conf: Corrected compute_monitors and non_inheritable_image_properties help text https://review.openstack.org/468538
14:01:02 openstackgerrit Balazs Gibizer proposed openstack/nova master: Add snapshot id to the snapshot notifications https://review.openstack.org/453077
14:01:02 openstackgerrit Balazs Gibizer proposed openstack/nova master: explain payload inheritance in notification devref https://review.openstack.org/453667
14:03:19 dansmith mriedem: that graceful pass was hiding 17 tests that didn't know about BuildRequest
14:05:42 mriedem dansmith: in the scheduler meeting, but i'm going to have to parse your replies in there
14:08:46 sfinucan jaypipes: Quick q: do online migrations need a corresponding upgrade reno? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/469147/
14:09:07 jaypipes sfinucan: I don't think so... mriedem? ^
14:09:38 mriedem not really if it's all internal state changery - people are expected to run online data migrations each upgrade
14:09:57 openstackgerrit Rafael Folco proposed openstack/nova master: [placement] Increase test coverage https://review.openstack.org/473479
14:32:33 openstackgerrit Dan Smith proposed openstack/nova master: Remove old service version check for mitaka https://review.openstack.org/472395
14:40:15 openstackgerrit Balazs Gibizer proposed openstack/nova master: Add key_name field to InstancePayload https://review.openstack.org/463002
14:41:19 hferenc hi all
14:41:25 hferenc just one small thing
14:41:35 hferenc can someone please put this patch into his/her review queue?
14:41:40 hferenc https://review.openstack.org/#/c/464002/
14:41:41 cdent jaypipes: I didn't get a chance in the meeting to respond on the pushing wips or debate on spec first: i say go ahead and push wips as long as we're all flexible enough to tolerate some change
14:42:13 alex_xu jaypipes: the traits integration you mentioned is that the GET /allocation_requests support traits?
14:43:18 mriedem dansmith: ok want to talk about https://review.openstack.org/#/c/472395/2/nova/conductor/manager.py@484 ?
14:43:34 mriedem er
14:43:35 mriedem https://review.openstack.org/#/c/472395/2/nova/conductor/manager.py@a487
14:43:45 dansmith mriedem: see my update?
14:44:06 dansmith mriedem: you're right, we should always raise there now,
14:44:21 dansmith and we were covering up some legacy tests with that, including one checking specifically for "old api" nodes
14:45:44 jaypipes alex_xu: yes, but also the integration of traits into flavors...
14:46:05 alex_xu jaypipes: cool, ++ for that :)
14:49:07 openstackgerrit Balazs Gibizer proposed openstack/nova master: Add BDM to InstancePayload https://review.openstack.org/448779
14:50:12 mriedem dansmith: did you see https://review.openstack.org/#/c/472395/2//COMMIT_MSG@9 ?
14:50:34 mriedem i think it's checking for newton api, not liberty
14:51:08 dansmith mriedem: I didn't, but I looked up the history, let me go check
14:54:03 sdague dansmith: can you look at this - https://review.openstack.org/#/c/466658 - because you were on the original patch
14:54:13 dansmith mriedem: it's checking for >=12, which means 11 is the one it is concerned about
14:54:31 dansmith mriedem: 11 was 86a80062
14:55:12 dansmith which added compute rpc 4.12, which was "early newton" I guess
14:55:16 dansmith but not final
14:56:02 mriedem service version 11 was newton https://review.openstack.org/#/c/287997/
14:56:12 rmk Someone pasted code with a comment from me in it. What did I break this time? :(
14:56:21 mriedem anyway, that's not how i read the commit message
14:56:23 dansmith mriedem: it was during newton, notfinal newton
14:56:35 mriedem dansmith: that change is in stable/newton
14:56:37 dansmith mriedem: but yes, I think it needs to be "newton checking for mitaka api"
14:56:47 dansmith mriedem: yes, I know
14:56:52 openstackgerrit Gábor Antal proposed openstack/nova master: Transform instance.resize_prep notification https://review.openstack.org/465081
14:57:32 dansmith mriedem: the title is "check for mitaka" so I think I got that right and then just wrote the rest of the commit message later and was off by one
14:57:48 sean-k-mooney jaypipes: is the intenet to model traits request as an extention fo the flavor extra spec or will a new mechanisume be introduced to model this
14:58:00 openstackgerrit Dan Smith proposed openstack/nova master: Remove old service version check for mitaka https://review.openstack.org/472395
14:58:28 mriedem dansmith: ok maybe it's the "removes a service version check from mitaka" - the "from mitaka" makes me think the check was added in mitaka, which it wasn't, it was added in newton
14:58:43 sean-k-mooney jaypipes: e.g. can i request a traint say ssd on the nova boot command or would that be part of the flavor extra specs/image meta-data
14:58:43 jaypipes sean-k-mooney: new mech, eventually to replace extra specs would be my intent. not sure if folks agree with that though :)
14:58:57 sean-k-mooney jaypipes: that would be my preference
14:59:03 dansmith mriedem: it's "for mitaka" not "from mitaka"
14:59:23 sean-k-mooney jaypipes: it means we can specify this per instance but the adming migh wat to impose constriant via flavors
14:59:23 jaypipes sean-k-mooney: I'd like to see a nova boot --required HW_CPU_X86_SSE42,STORAGE_DISK_SSD type of interface.
14:59:40 jaypipes sean-k-mooney: but until that happens, we will need to tack everything on to a flavor.
14:59:52 mriedem dansmith: i know, hence my confusion :)
15:00:11 dansmith ...okay
15:00:52 sean-k-mooney jaypipes: --required HW_CPU_X86_SSE42,STORAGE_DISK_SSD is something i think in the long run would be nice to have. i dont know if we need to have a white list of traints that can be request per flavor though for billing reasons
15:02:02 sean-k-mooney e.g. cheap flavor cannont request STORAGE_DISK_SSD but performance flavor can. that list of trait could be modeled at the flvor level as allowed traits
15:02:18 mriedem dansmith: oh you're talking about the title, i was talking about the wording in the body in the old patch set
15:02:32 dansmith mriedem: correct
15:02:55 mriedem last thing is https://review.openstack.org/#/c/472395/4//COMMIT_MSG
15:03:56 mriedem if this is going to cause a head to explode we can just stop talking about it
15:05:35 sean-k-mooney jaypipes: if i rember correctly you were also proposing haveing a --prefer or somthing similar for soft reqruiment or nice to have fetaure (traits) also. is that still what you envision
15:05:58 jaypipes sean-k-mooney: yes, but long way out.
15:06:43 sean-k-mooney jaypipes: cool just checking, that would allow me to expres somting like --required HW_CPU_X86_SSE42 --prefer HW_CPU_X86_AVX cleanly
15:07:13 openstackgerrit Stephen Finucane proposed openstack/nova master: Use plain routes list for os-server-groups endpoint instead of stevedore https://review.openstack.org/462169
15:07:14 openstackgerrit Stephen Finucane proposed openstack/nova master: Use plain routes list for user_data instead of stevedore https://review.openstack.org/462183
15:07:14 openstackgerrit Stephen Finucane proposed openstack/nova master: Use plain routes list for os-consoles, os-console-auth-tokens endpoint instead of stevedore https://review.openstack.org/462175
15:07:15 openstackgerrit Stephen Finucane proposed openstack/nova master: Use plain routes list for block_device_mapping instead of stevedore https://review.openstack.org/462180
15:07:42 sean-k-mooney that is useful for tings like dpdk that require sse3+ to function but perform best with avx.
15:08:44 sfinucan Kevin_Zheng: Rebased above patches to put them in series ^^^
15:08:58 sfinucan If we don't do that, we get endless merge conflicts :(
15:09:36 jaypipes sean-k-mooney: right.
15:09:58 alex_xu sean-k-mooney: not sure how people bill that, people pay a price of avx, but may not get avx. or people pay a price for sse3, but maybe they get some luck
15:11:03 sean-k-mooney alex_xu: i would guest the get billed by the minium gurantee but it would be up to the operator
15:12:01 sean-k-mooney alex_xu: even without the perfer if you got allocated to a sse3 node it may have avx
15:12:30 sean-k-mooney i would see the --require as an input to the filters and --prefer as an input to the weighers
15:13:00 alex_xu sean-k-mooney: emm...why not just required the avx
15:13:35 sean-k-mooney alex_xu: you could but i may not need that level of performance so might want to use a cheaper flavor
15:15:37 alex_xu sean-k-mooney: so, just two flavors one cheap and another one expensive should works. btw you may interesting this spec https://review.openstack.org/468797
15:16:24 alex_xu sean-k-mooney: we explore the prefer_traits in the spec, but removed, as I'm not very sure the use-case. but welcome the review and comments
15:16:46 sean-k-mooney alex_xu: yep it would but if we want to move away form usign the flavor to ecode the request in the futer you may want to be more dynamic
15:18:10 sean-k-mooney alex_xu: well for me the real usecase for for prefer vs require come fi you have a mano system or some level of intelagent that understands that expected kpi/level of performance that this instance will need to achive and can tailor the request accordingly
15:19:23 openstackgerrit Rodolfo Alonso Hernandez proposed openstack/os-vif master: Add memoize function using oslo.cache https://review.openstack.org/472773
15:19:30 sean-k-mooney alex_xu: it could simply chose between 2 fixed flavors or dynamicl change if the trait is expressed in prefered or require depentind on if it knows it is requrieed to meet the sla or not
15:20:26 alex_xu sean-k-mooney: oh, you want to set the minmum performance for a flavor

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