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#openstack-nova - 2017-05-26
19:07:35 sdague without any changes
19:07:37 lbragstad reading the error on lines 45 - 48 make it seem like nova requires v3
19:07:48 sdague lbragstad: it does for this call
19:08:25 mriedem i think i'm just trying to say, if we were unsure before, we're sure now
19:08:29 mriedem so seems we should note that
19:08:31 sdague mriedem: yes, that's fair
19:08:41 mriedem but...the existing reno has GET /v3/projects/project_id in it
19:08:47 mriedem which implies v3 is required
19:08:52 mriedem so maybe we just don't need a release note for this fix
19:09:02 sdague yeh
19:09:13 sdague I was just looking, that is what I'd sort of go with
19:09:23 mriedem i'm good either way
19:09:31 sdague the only other item is the fact that we fixed a bug we introduced in p1
19:09:38 mriedem right that tripped me up
19:09:55 sdague but, for people that don't consume this until pike final, saying that might be really confusing
19:09:58 mriedem i very much doubt many people are in product on p1 right now
19:10:04 mriedem right
19:10:23 mriedem so i'd either say nothing, no new reno, or new reno that just has an upgrade impact saying keystone v3 is for sure required now
19:10:33 sdague ok, lets go nothing
19:10:47 mriedem read my lips, no, new, reno
19:11:00 openstackgerrit Sean Dague proposed openstack/nova master: Be more tolerant of keystone catalog configuration https://review.openstack.org/438049
19:13:10 mriedem +2
19:14:31 openstackgerrit Matt Riedemann proposed openstack/nova master: Migrate to oslo request_id middleware - mv 2.46 https://review.openstack.org/467998
19:14:51 openstackgerrit Matt Riedemann proposed openstack/nova master: Updated from global requirements https://review.openstack.org/468089
19:15:01 mriedem sdague: also +2 on your 2.46
19:15:04 mriedem melwitt: ^
19:15:47 openstack Launchpad bug 1692893 in OpenStack Compute (nova) "'nova usage' returns 500 when deleted row in instance_extra is archived" [Undecided,New]
19:15:47 mriedem artom_: so about this bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/1692893 - what you reported is really a duplicate of the other bug, so shouldn't we duplicate it?
19:16:11 melwitt mriedem: +W
19:16:56 openstackgerrit Chris Dent proposed openstack/nova master: Catch InstanceNotFound when deleting allocations https://review.openstack.org/468517
19:17:02 artom_ mriedem, I specifically didn't because duplicating it would hide it from search results, and I feel like my report is more relevant to actual users, as opposed to the other Tempest stacktrace
19:17:30 mriedem ok, well, i just duplicated it :)
19:17:39 artom mriedem, *shrug*
19:17:44 mriedem i didn't think about search results
19:18:03 artom I don't feel that strongly about it
19:18:43 melwitt hm, I didn't think dupes got hidden from search results
19:18:54 artom It warns you before you do it
19:18:57 openstack Launchpad bug 1692376 in OpenStack Compute (nova) "Binary dependencies aren't easily discoverable" [Undecided,New]
19:18:57 mriedem mtreinish: so i just read https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/1692376
19:19:03 artom So I went to duplicate it, and then thought otherwise
19:19:04 mriedem mtreinish: and....idk
19:19:21 mriedem mtreinish: the binary dependencies you need are going to depend on service and configuration
19:19:21 melwitt artom: interesting, never knew that
19:19:29 mriedem mtreinish: plus anything in the devref is going to get out of date
19:19:43 artom melwitt, I just discovered a couple of days ago ;)
19:19:55 melwitt launchpad, you are full of mysteries
19:20:17 mtreinish mriedem: well if we don't actually write it down anywhere how are people supposed to know what's needed?
19:20:18 mriedem just like http://cosmosmysteryarea.com/index.html
19:20:20 artom For all we know LP is where The Matrix will come from
19:20:42 mriedem mtreinish: requirements.txt + bindep?
19:21:28 mriedem we used to have a fairly full package list in https://docs.openstack.org/developer/nova/development.environment.html#explicit-install-clone
19:21:34 mriedem but then we got bindep and that was cleaned up
19:21:50 melwitt lol, we have the same thing in santa cruz https://www.mysteryspot.com/
19:22:23 mtreinish mriedem: and bindep are just the deps for running the tests (like what you need to build libxml, etc)
19:23:19 mtreinish like where does it say I need qemu-img installed?
19:23:37 mriedem mtreinish: where does it say you need hyper-v or vcenter installed?
19:23:49 mriedem or a power 8 rack for powervm? :)
19:24:11 mriedem https://docs.openstack.org/ocata/config-reference/compute/hypervisors.html
19:24:21 mriedem is anything hypervisor specific
19:26:02 mtreinish mriedem: well powervm isn't in tree :)
19:26:41 sdague mtreinish: surprise! it mostly is
19:27:03 openstackgerrit Chris Dent proposed openstack/nova master: Changing deleting stale allocations warning to debug https://review.openstack.org/468519
19:27:10 mtreinish oh, it started merging
19:27:56 mriedem yeha
19:27:57 mriedem *yeah
19:28:06 mtreinish mriedem: so I agree there are some bits that are config dependent, but clearly outlining the requirements for using nova seems like something we should do
19:28:08 mriedem i actually got on efried the other night about docs
19:28:21 mriedem mtreinish: i have triaged it as opinion
19:28:30 mriedem which means it is now in purgatory
19:28:38 mtreinish mriedem: especially since there are things which you need like qemu-img which are always needed (at least from what I could tell)
19:28:45 mtreinish mriedem: what does opinion even mean?
19:28:53 mriedem it means, meh
19:28:55 cdent mriedem: I've pushed fixes for both of those bugs, but only ran the nearby tests before I did. It is time for my weekend to start so feel free to fix everything I've forgotten.
19:29:01 mriedem cdent: thanks
19:31:13 sdague mtreinish: I think writing the arch install guide in nova tree is out of scope. That is kind of part of what the install guide and packaging is about
19:32:19 mtreinish I'm not saying the arch install guide. (I haven't even tried that) I'm saying we're shipping code with external requirements that aren't documented anywhere
19:32:29 mtreinish sure packaging solves this, but how do packagers know what's needed
19:33:02 mtreinish it doesn't seem unreasonable to say if installing from source make sure you have X, Y, Z installed since nova calls out to those
19:33:03 sdague by being part of our community
19:33:25 efried mtreinish Since you're clearly interested in furthering the cause of powervm in-tree, here ya go: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/443189/
19:33:43 sdague I do get in a perfect world there would be a crisp "here is everything you need" interface, but in the list of priorities that's not really in the top 100
19:33:59 efried (and mriedem, updating refs is on our to-do list, near the top)
19:34:22 sdague as the only people it's impacting is building from source without using any of the deployment projects
19:34:36 mtreinish sdague: I'm not saying it's a priority. I filed a bug to just recognize it's a gap
19:34:54 mriedem mtreinish: i didn't invalidate the bug, i just marked it low priority
19:34:58 mriedem if someone wants to take that on they can
19:35:12 mriedem with my reservations about it noted in there
19:35:18 mriedem i.e. complicated and getting out of date easily
19:35:48 mtreinish efried: I guess that I can take a look...
19:36:18 efried mtreinish It's a biggie. Perhaps you can figure out a way to parallel-process the review using that cloud in your closet...
19:36:50 sdague mtreinish: right, so my feeling is that bugs not in the top 100 priorities are just hay hiding needles in the stack.
19:37:48 sdague efried: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/443189/24/nova/virt/powervm/tasks/storage.py ... I'm confused about the LOG.exception that have "ignoring" in their message
19:38:01 sdague because, that's going to be a giant stack trace which will scare people
19:38:06 sdague but then being "meh"
19:38:10 mtreinish efried: I asked ibm to give me funding for that cloud and I was told no. They didn't even offer to give me any power boxes
19:38:12 sdague seems contradictory
19:38:12 efried sdague Taskflow esoterica
19:38:17 mtreinish not that my circuit breaker could handle them
19:39:00 mriedem leakypipes: did https://review.openstack.org/#/c/409706/ resolve that mitaka issue you were chasing the other night?
19:39:09 sdague efried: ok, intentional, then I'm fine with it

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