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#openstack-nova - 2017-05-03
20:20:29 mriedem "ladies and gentlemen, introducing, the beast from the southeast....JAY!"
20:20:42 dansmith a mic will descend from the ceiling and the lights will dim to a spotlight
20:20:46 mriedem right
20:21:06 mriedem i just like the idea of julie handling the effects
20:21:08 dansmith are you ready .... toooooo..... PLACE SOME RESOURCES SMARTLY????
20:21:19 melwitt at first I was dreading these presentations. but now ...
20:21:27 jaypipes rofl
20:21:47 jaypipes DJ Jules on the effects board.
20:22:15 dansmith "Introducing Jay Pipes.. He hates inefficient schedulers and loves pug cuddles..."
20:23:16 jaypipes hehe
20:23:41 jaypipes dansmith: don't MAKE me add pug pics to my slides. you KNOW I will do that on a drop of a hat.
20:23:51 dansmith lego pugs?
20:23:56 jaypipes heh
20:25:48 melwitt the pug tucked into the blanket. that can be you sleeping soundly, using the new scheduler
20:26:33 jaypipes melwitt: this one? :) https://twitter.com/jaypipes/media
20:26:48 sdague mriedem / clarkb: I went through the list that mriedem posted in https://review.openstack.org/#/c/462231 - the only thing with an active hit touching syslog is coming in under the kernel tag (which will still be in that file)
20:26:49 jaypipes or rather, this... https://twitter.com/jaypipes/status/801233017993719808/photo/1
20:28:03 melwitt jaypipes: that one is awesome too. I was thinking of the one where it's tucked into bed. I don't remember which pug it was
20:28:29 openstackgerrit Matthew Treinish proposed openstack/nova master: Fix typo in wsgi applications release note https://review.openstack.org/462283
20:28:30 mriedem sdague: ok
20:28:34 mriedem dropped the -1
20:28:41 jaypipes melwitt: ah. this one :) https://twitter.com/jaypipes/status/631102588319080448/photo/1
20:28:46 sdague mriedem: it was a good thing to check
20:28:53 melwitt jaypipes: hahaha yeah that's it
20:29:18 melwitt I forgot the eyes were open, so that wouldn't be good for sleeping soundly
20:29:26 openstack Launchpad bug 1688054 in openstack-manuals "Flavors in Administrator Guide - confusing description for rxtx factor" [Undecided,New]
20:29:26 mriedem sean-k-mooney: btw https://bugs.launchpad.net/openstack-manuals/+bug/1688054
20:29:27 mriedem so we don't forget
20:33:09 mriedem jaypipes: ok so a tree
20:33:15 jaypipes ya
20:33:16 mriedem :)
20:33:18 mriedem gdi
20:33:21 mriedem you and your dag
20:33:23 jaypipes :)
20:33:40 mriedem mutable media,
20:33:41 mriedem dag
20:33:43 mriedem nerd alert!
20:34:16 jaypipes mriedem: all trees are DAGs but not all DAGs are trees..
20:34:32 mriedem i know
20:34:40 mriedem oh, well,
20:34:42 mriedem yeah nvm
20:34:56 mriedem anyway, when i think of bidirectional i just think of graphs,
20:35:02 mriedem and single parent directional i think of trees
20:35:05 mriedem which are also graphs
20:35:06 jaypipes it's cool, I removed the term DAG.
20:35:23 mriedem i thought about not saying anything lest i look the fool
20:37:28 dansmith and yet.. still happened
20:37:38 melwitt lol
20:38:40 mriedem hey, you didn't know what sight words ere
20:38:41 mriedem *were
20:38:43 mriedem dummy
20:39:03 mriedem that reminds me to send you a picture of the thing i'm now a bad parent for
20:39:19 dansmith they definitely didn't call them that when I was a kid
20:39:23 dansmith at least, not in my school
20:51:18 jaypipes mriedem, dansmith: OK, removed a few slides from the New Hope deck. Down to 26 "real" slides, which should be perfect for the slot.
20:51:48 jaypipes now... to whittle down the 1582 slides in my second deck...
20:53:48 mriedem i can't possibly go through them all again, but i think it looks really nice
20:54:13 jaypipes mriedem: I appreciate both your and dansmith's comments. thanks again.
20:54:28 mriedem dansmith: cells v2 meeting in 6 minutes?
20:54:29 dansmith I didn't offer any useful feedback
20:54:32 dansmith mriedem: yeah
20:54:57 jaypipes dansmith: you just being you is useful feedback. :)
20:55:07 dansmith heh
20:59:10 melwitt sdague: here's the unit test I'm trying for oslo.versionedobjects https://review.openstack.org/462288
21:00:58 melwitt to me it seems like __repr__ is doing the right thing to encode as ascii (the default) before returning if not python3, else things you could expect to work like str() would blow up in python2 if applied to the returned repr
21:29:55 mriedem dansmith: i'm not sure how you don't love 'modularity' as a theme...
21:30:03 mriedem it makes total sense if you're trying to synergize
21:30:16 dansmith mriedem: my mistake
21:37:43 clarkb melwitt: if thats the case maybe you need to do a lossy repr?
21:38:06 melwitt mriedem, dansmith: what about hyperconvergence
21:38:34 melwitt clarkb: what do you mean?
21:38:51 mriedem melwitt: only thought leaders who drive innovative results deal with hyperconvergance
21:38:57 clarkb melwitt: convert to ascii and ignore errors
21:39:49 clarkb melwitt: https://docs.python.org/2/library/codecs.html#codec-base-classes has a list of the encoding optisn you can use
21:40:08 clarkb strict is default which is why you get the error. But you could ignore or replace. or use backslashreplace
21:51:35 mriedem jaypipes: does 11am ET work tomorrow for you?
21:51:41 mriedem 30 min hangout?
21:51:53 jaypipes mriedem: yup.
22:00:39 EmilienM mriedem: sounds like re-enabling WSGI didn't work well: http://logs.openstack.org/81/462281/1/check/gate-puppet-openstack-integration-4-scenario002-tempest-centos-7/7a37824/logs/nova/nova-compute.txt.gz#_2017-05-03_20_58_25_083
22:02:06 mriedem EmilienM: that doesn't look like anything that would be related to running with wsgi
22:02:54 EmilienM I agree
22:26:18 openstackgerrit melanie witt proposed openstack/nova master: Use six.text_type() when logging Instance object https://review.openstack.org/461912
22:29:33 melwitt mriedem, dansmith: there's the hopefully final version. ^ I'm not sure if the unit test is good enough, if I should instead do an exact comparison of the repr
22:36:02 melwitt clarkb: the repr is already converting to ascii with no errors. the UnicodeDecodeError is raised here https://github.com/python/cpython/blob/2e576f5/Lib/logging/__init__.py#L338 which implies it's trying to do an implicit conversion to unicode. I don't understand that
22:40:31 mriedem melwitt: nit inline
22:40:37 mriedem otherwise lgtm
22:40:53 melwitt mriedem: k, looking
22:41:29 melwitt ah, thanks
22:45:58 openstackgerrit melanie witt proposed openstack/nova master: Use six.text_type() when logging Instance object https://review.openstack.org/461912
22:50:19 mriedem melwitt: should you be using assertIsInstance instead of assertIs?
22:50:42 mriedem i'm not entirely sure what the difference is, but i thought assertIs was like, == but without checking __eq__
22:50:45 mriedem like same object in memory
22:51:04 mriedem https://docs.python.org/2/library/unittest.html#unittest.TestCase.assertIs
22:51:20 melwitt mriedem: I tried that first and it failed and said to check exact type, use assertIs https://docs.python.org/2/library/unittest.html#unittest.TestCase.assertIsInstance
22:51:59 mriedem oh huh, weird
22:52:00 mriedem ok
22:52:01 mriedem +2
22:52:31 melwitt thanks
22:59:18 mriedem mtreinish: a few things in https://review.openstack.org/#/c/459470/ yet
23:01:47 dansmith mriedem: is and == are different

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