| Posted | Nick | Remark | |
|---|---|---|---|
| #openstack-nova - 2017-05-02 | |||
| 17:53:50 | mriedem | anyway, big can of worms, don't mean to rathole on this | |
| 17:53:51 | dansmith | wait.. what? | |
| 17:54:11 | ildikov | dansmith: I wouldn't say that it's generally not for contributors as contributors are important part for the success of the Forum | |
| 17:54:25 | dansmith | ildikov: ptg is for mid and above devs, but not for new contributors, and forum is for brand new people and project decision makers? | |
| 17:55:07 | ildikov | dansmith: on the other hand those, who're new to OpenStack can learn much during the Summit and the Forum sessions and hence the on boarding rooms are part of that event, where we have new and experienced people around as well | |
| 17:56:03 | ildikov | mriedem: I think that's a bit of a misunderstanding and as with all changes it will take time to find the balance | |
| 17:56:15 | mriedem | ok, regardless i can't make the first hour b/c i'm going to https://www.openstack.org/summit/boston-2017/summit-schedule/events/18750/operating-the-vm-and-baremetal-platform-12 | |
| 17:56:19 | dansmith | I need to find that foundation post with the diagram of the split | |
| 17:57:16 | openstackgerrit | Chris Friesen proposed openstack/nova master: Fix units for description of "flavor_swap" parameter https://review.openstack.org/461074 | |
| 17:57:18 | ildikov | dansmith: brand new people, experienced contributors including project decision makers, users and operators and anyone, who's interested | |
| 17:57:19 | mriedem | https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Forum | |
| 17:57:43 | dansmith | mriedem: no, there's another one that has a diagram of the split, | |
| 17:57:48 | mriedem | heh "The Forum is not the right place to get started or learn the basics of OpenStack." | |
| 17:58:23 | mriedem | dansmith: this? https://www.openstack.org/ptg/ | |
| 17:58:35 | dansmith | no | |
| 17:59:40 | ildikov | mriedem: dansmith: so the Forum is the place for discussions between the developer and the user/operator community | |
| 18:00:09 | ildikov | mriedem: dansmith: we also have the rest of the Summit happening at the same time and place, so don't forget about that either plz :) | |
| 18:00:32 | ildikov | mriedem: re that sentence you copied here above | |
| 18:00:52 | mriedem | sure, but https://www.openstack.org/summit/boston-2017/summit-schedule/events/18688/nova-project-onboarding | |
| 18:00:57 | mriedem | says "The Forum" on it | |
| 18:01:25 | mriedem | again, anyway, it's just nit picking | |
| 18:01:56 | dansmith | guh, I can't find the thing I'm looking for | |
| 18:01:57 | ildikov | mriedem: thanks for pointing it out, as it's important to have clear descriptions out | |
| 18:02:53 | ildikov | mriedem: but I hope what I wanted to get to went through as well | |
| 18:04:32 | openstackgerrit | Ed Leafe proposed openstack/nova master: Remove the can_host column https://review.openstack.org/461494 | |
| 18:05:53 | mriedem | cdent: your opinions on what might be interesting/good content for a nova project onboarding session are probably valuable as you're maybe the newest nova contributor that's been around awhile and hasn't recently been laid off by osic | |
| 18:06:07 | mriedem | like, 'i wish someone would have explained x to me within the first month' | |
| 18:07:30 | mriedem | unless those things are local delete, bdms, extra specs, quotas, versioned objects, cells (v1 or v2), placement, really anything | |
| 18:11:16 | dansmith | I'm still waiting for someone to explain BDMs to me | |
| 18:12:23 | cdent | mriedem: i'll think on it | |
| 18:12:26 | ildikov | dansmith: let me know when you find the person for that, I would be interested in that session too :) | |
| 18:12:43 | dansmith | It'll be on the 9th green at 9pm | |
| 18:13:06 | openstackgerrit | dane-fichter proposed openstack/nova master: Add trusted certificates to InstanceExtras https://review.openstack.org/457711 | |
| 18:13:19 | cdent | time in nova is weird: it's been > 1.5 year | |
| 18:14:20 | ildikov | dansmith: ok :) | |
| 18:17:25 | mriedem | gibi: doesn't it seems sort of odd that the volume attach/detach notifications don't have a bdm in them? | |
| 18:28:06 | dansmith | melwitt: didn't you implement the multithreaded cross-cell scatter/gather thing for something in quotas? | |
| 18:28:15 | dansmith | melwitt: was thinking I'd shamelessly copy it and start on a few other places | |
| 18:28:59 | mriedem | is it odd that we don't set task_state when doing something like attaching a volume or interface? | |
| 18:30:03 | cdent | mriedem: is there an etherpad where I could or should dump onboarding stuff, or you just hoping for it here? | |
| 18:30:11 | mriedem | cdent: i can create something | |
| 18:30:55 | mriedem | re: you can't delete an instance if it's task_state is set, unless you force delete it, but when attaching a volume we don't set the task_state to anything, so you could delete it while the volume is being attached | |
| 18:57:56 | mriedem | jaypipes: bauwser: cdent: sdague: a start https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/BOS-forum-nova-project-onboarding | |
| 18:58:04 | cdent | roger | |
| 19:04:17 | dansmith | ffs, now I can't get the gate to lose this race to show my debug information | |
| 19:04:34 | dansmith | sdague: did anything change in devstack around the systemd stuff or something since yesterday? | |
| 19:04:44 | dansmith | there was talk about it this morning but I didn't pay attention | |
| 19:06:20 | dansmith | ah, well, one of the other jobs is hitting it at least | |
| 19:08:26 | mriedem | dansmith: the fallout from the systemd thing was the ceph setup in the live migration job | |
| 19:08:28 | mriedem | that's fixed now | |
| 19:08:33 | dansmith | okay | |
| 19:11:44 | cdent | that's me in cyan on the etherpad, that sort of thing useful? | |
| 19:13:31 | mriedem | cdent: i think so | |
| 19:13:33 | mriedem | thanks | |
| 19:14:33 | cdent | I hadn't put backwards compatibility where you just did because the need for the behaviors isn't covered well enough by that phrase. It's a rather special kind of backwards compatibility | |
| 19:14:55 | cdent | I'm trying to think of more "rather special kind" of things | |
| 19:15:12 | mriedem | i don't know what the difference is, or what that means | |
| 19:16:16 | cdent | exactly! | |
| 19:16:51 | mriedem | oh fun functional job timeout | |
| 19:25:38 | openstackgerrit | Chris Dent proposed openstack/nova master: Optional separate database for placement API https://review.openstack.org/362766 | |
| 19:26:49 | openstack | Launchpad bug 1669468 in OpenStack Compute (nova) "tempest.api.compute.servers.test_novnc.NoVNCConsoleTestJSON.test_novnc fails intermittently in neutron multinode nv job" [Medium,Fix released] - Assigned to Markus Zoeller (markus_z) (mzoeller) | |
| 19:26:49 | ihrachys | someone please reopen the bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/1669468 for some reason I can't do it. | |
| 19:26:54 | ihrachys | it hits master and stable still | |
| 19:27:46 | mriedem | ihrachys: maybe open a new bug? | |
| 19:28:09 | mriedem | i.e. is a regression? | |
| 19:28:11 | ihrachys | mriedem, well I am not sure. seems like same failure. | |
| 19:28:50 | ihrachys | at least superficially it shows same symptom in same test | |
| 19:29:13 | ihrachys | I admit I don't know much about how it's supposed to work to distinguish root causes if they are different. | |
| 19:29:36 | mriedem | checking logstash | |
| 19:30:03 | clarkb | we run novnc in the gate? I thought we didn't because git badness | |
| 19:30:31 | ihrachys | clarkb, seems like we do, at least in ocata for neutron gate | |
| 19:30:42 | mriedem | clarkb: https://github.com/openstack-infra/devstack-gate/commit/f283a62020615f3d266058b9d145b50fe83737db | |
| 19:30:48 | ihrachys | clarkb, and logstash shows hits for masters of some other projects (some jobs are -nv there though) | |
| 19:31:58 | mriedem | ihrachys: logstash doesn't show that hitting on stable | |
| 19:32:08 | mriedem | novnc should only be enabled on master according to that d-g change | |
| 19:32:48 | ihrachys | mriedem, see this just failed for https://review.openstack.org/#/c/461827/ | |
| 19:32:50 | ihrachys | it's ocata | |
| 19:33:03 | ihrachys | the gate-tempest-dsvm-py35-ubuntu-xenial | |
| 19:33:31 | ihrachys | maybe there is something wrong about the job that it picks master, I dunno | |
| 19:34:07 | ihrachys | definitely enabled there: http://logs.openstack.org/27/461827/1/check/gate-tempest-dsvm-py35-ubuntu-xenial/6805498/logs/devstacklog.txt.gz#_2017-05-02_16_15_56_894 | |
| 19:34:08 | mriedem | ihrachys: huh yeah novnc is enabled http://logs.openstack.org/27/461827/1/check/gate-tempest-dsvm-py35-ubuntu-xenial/6805498/logs/local.conf.txt.gz | |
| 19:35:47 | clarkb | I think that actually enabled the feature across the board | |
| 19:35:53 | mriedem | ihrachys: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/344892/5 was ocata so maybe n-novnc is just always enabled, but not used in devstack before ocata | |
| 19:36:02 | clarkb | since its in the base nova list which is used in all the branches | |
| 19:36:08 | mriedem | ok that explains it then | |
| 19:37:04 | mriedem | oh i see logstash won't show the py35 results because of the goofy formatting in the console dump | |
| 19:37:05 | mriedem | b'AssertionError: True is not false : Token must be invalid because the connection closed.' | |
| 19:37:44 | sdague | dansmith: I think I've sorted the systemd issues that crept up, but if you find another one, let me know | |
| 19:37:48 | mriedem | there we go | |
| 19:37:53 | mriedem | ihrachys: (message:"AssertionError: True is not false : Token must be invalid because the connection closed." OR message:"b'AssertionError: True is not false : Token must be invalid because the connection closed.'") AND tags:"console" | |
| 19:38:09 | dansmith | sdague: I'm just grasping at straws about why something is behaving differently all of a sudden | |
| 19:38:18 | mriedem | dansmith: oh, | |
| 19:38:20 | mriedem | the wsgi changes? | |
| 19:38:26 | sdague | dansmith: what kind of different? | |
| 19:38:35 | mriedem | dansmith: did you see the wsgi changes merge? | |
| 19:38:41 | mriedem | i didn't think devstack was using that yet though | |
| 19:38:44 | dansmith | mriedem: ooh, which wsgi changes? | |
| 19:39:00 | dansmith | because I swear that some request id stuff is broken now | |
| 19:39:16 | mriedem | nvm didn't merge yet https://review.openstack.org/#/c/459413/ | |
| 19:39:25 | mriedem | but this one did https://review.openstack.org/#/c/457283/ | |