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#openstack-nova - 2017-03-30
13:34:21 openstackgerrit Rodolfo Alonso Hernandez proposed openstack/nova master: Modify PciPassthroughFilter to accept lists https://review.openstack.org/444946
13:34:21 openstackgerrit Rodolfo Alonso Hernandez proposed openstack/nova master: [WIP] Add Neutron port capabilities to devspec in request https://review.openstack.org/451777
13:36:15 dane-fichter mriedem: Have you gotten a chance to look at the cursive patch since we bumped up the cursive version in g-r? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/351232/
13:40:05 efried mdbooth How do you feel about https://review.openstack.org/451094 ? Better?
13:55:34 mdbooth efried: I'd need to check the tests, but fine in principal. It would be slight more efficient to fsync unconditionally and ignore EINVAL (1 syscall instead of 2) if you wanted to do that.
13:56:02 openstackgerrit Marco Voelz proposed openstack/nova-specs master: Add port deletion on termination of server https://review.openstack.org/416997
13:56:09 efried mdbooth Yeah, I considered doing that. Basically flipped a coin. I could go either way.
13:56:21 mdbooth Not much in it.
13:59:12 bauzas jaypipes: thanks for your comments on the super-WIP claims spec, I'm just digesting those
13:59:57 jaypipes bauzas: np
14:07:02 jaypipes mriedem: metal tube in air day?
14:07:10 mriedem jaypipes: you know it
14:07:18 openstack Launchpad bug 1675343 in OpenStack Compute (nova) "vif_type='tap' fails with permission error on /dev/net/tun" [Undecided,New]
14:07:18 mriedem sfinucan: could you check this out? https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/1675343
14:07:32 sfinucan mriedem: Sure
14:07:42 mriedem sgordon: jamespage: kevinbenton reported ^ and it's related to the vif script path changes made earlier
14:07:47 mriedem that you're well aware of
14:08:10 mriedem the bug seems like a different error
14:08:45 sgordon yeah
14:09:04 jaypipes ralonsoh: you working on that NIC feature patch series, yes?
14:10:18 mriedem Kevin_Zheng: did you have a fix coming up for https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/1675570 ?
14:10:19 openstack Launchpad bug 1675570 in OpenStack Compute (nova) "Volumes are not detached when deleting shelved offloaded servers" [High,In progress] - Assigned to Zhenyu Zheng (zhengzhenyu)
14:12:51 mriedem dansmith: nova meeting agenda is updated https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/Nova#Agenda_for_next_meeting
14:12:59 Kevin_Zheng mriedem: Nope, didn't have a clear plan
14:13:01 dansmith mriedem: ack, thanks
14:13:21 Kevin_Zheng On how to do it
14:13:34 ralonsoh jaypipes: yes, I'm on it. But I'm setting workflow-1, because the spec is not yet approved
14:15:26 jaypipes ralonsoh: ah, gotcha.
14:15:52 bauzas sdague: oh man, did I say I love your blogpost ? https://dague.net/2017/03/30/in-praise-of-systemd/
14:16:03 jaypipes ralonsoh: you might want to ping johnthetubaguy, dansmith, mriedem and bauzas on that spec since they are nova-specs cores.
14:16:18 bauzas sdague: *that* is the exact feature I wanted without needing to make my own silly script
14:16:27 ralonsoh jaypipes: thanks for the tip!
14:16:30 jaypipes heh, I bet mordred loves sdague's blog post ;)
14:18:15 jianghuaw__ jaypipes, could you have a look at this proposal on vgpu when you have time? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/450122/
14:18:31 mordred jaypipes, sdague: honestly, it's a good post and is literally the first explanation of an actual feature that is provided that I cannot immediately naysay with how we've always been able to do that - and also easier
14:18:32 jaypipes jianghuaw__: yep! it's on my docket for the day.
14:19:01 dansmith mordred: *gasp*
14:19:17 dansmith mordred: you just abandoned your whole belief system
14:19:23 mriedem Kevin_Zheng: ok i might work on a fix then if i find the time on my flight today,
14:19:27 jianghuaw__ jaypipes, thanks.
14:19:29 mriedem Kevin_Zheng: i think we just want to use _local_delete
14:19:38 ralonsoh johnthetubaguy, dansmith, mriedem, bauzas: hi. I have a spec to be reviewed (#link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/435954/). I you have time, can you have a look?
14:19:39 mriedem that will handle port deallocation and volume cleanup
14:19:42 mordred jaypipes, sdague: I do very much wish the journald format wasn't binary requiring a tool to read, that it wasn't prone to corruption on server crash and that it wasn't tied together with a DAG-based event driven init system that makes operating things harder
14:19:50 mordred dansmith: ^^ there you go
14:20:05 dansmith heh
14:20:07 ralonsoh johnthetubaguy, dansmith, mriedem, bauzas: I think it's almost finished
14:20:30 bauzas mordred: well, while you have valid concerns, I think that's still a good move worth it :)
14:20:39 mordred because let's be frank - just making a thing that's similar to syslog but structured like what sdague wrote up is awesome - but tying all of linux together with a giant monolithic stack that touches everything is not required to get better logging
14:20:53 Kevin_Zheng mriedem: thanks, I will check it :) just don't know the best way to implement it
14:21:02 dansmith my belief system is: mordred is right about 99% of things, I'm willing to let him be wrong about systemd
14:21:11 bauzas hah
14:21:19 mordred dansmith: that's a good belief system - it saves you the most amount of pain :)
14:21:23 dansmith heh
14:21:27 sdague woah, I got event faint praise from mordred around systemd :)
14:21:34 jaypipes :)
14:21:37 mordred sdague: I know right?
14:21:37 sdague I consider that a win
14:21:50 dansmith sdague: it's more than I hope to get from mordred on any topic
14:21:55 mordred sdague: you know - using systemd as a user-space non-pid-1 application launcher is a fine idea
14:22:03 bauzas ralonsoh: on ity
14:22:12 ralonsoh bauzas: thanks!
14:22:12 mordred and I wish that was how we had it rolled out to linux
14:22:30 stackempty Hi guys .. does anyone know if this https://specs.openstack.org/openstack/nova-specs/specs/newton/approved/flavor-root-disk-none.html has been implemented .. or if there's some other way to achieve it.
14:26:55 sdague bauzas: also, just to be clear, all the bits to do what I said in that blog post have not yet landed
14:27:07 sdague and are off by default right now anyway
14:27:24 bauzas sdague: I know, I CC'd myself on the oslo.log change
14:27:28 sdague bauzas: cool
14:28:08 migi dansmith: quick question about subsequent runs of nova-manage archive_deleted_rows, the output is as follows, to ensure CLI works as expected should I call it until "nothing was archived" is reached or first run is enough and then see if some of the rows were archived ? http://paste.openstack.org/show/604862/
14:28:24 openstackgerrit Gergely Csatari proposed openstack/nova master: api-ref: adminPass is optional in Create Server https://review.openstack.org/451497
14:29:34 dansmith migi: operators may not want to run it until they get to that point, because that will purge everything out of the db, but for testing, we should confirm that you _can_ run it until you get to that point, yeah
14:29:48 migi dansmith: ok
14:35:47 bauzas jaypipes: so you're cool with us adding more capabilities into the blob that's stored in the DB for PCI devices ?
14:36:02 bauzas jaypipes: doesn't that impact your work on cleaning that up ?
14:37:12 jaypipes bauzas: see my comments on that review from earlier. basically, I'm fine adding those NIC features as a temporary effort until we get traits done (and have the flavor able to communicate required and preferred traits)
14:37:25 jaypipes bauzas: more of a compromise than anything else, really.
14:37:31 ralonsoh bauzas: once os-traits and resource providers is working, we will migrate it
14:37:49 bauzas jaypipes: okay, just wanted to make sure you balanced that
14:37:57 bauzas - which I was pretty sure of tho - :)
14:38:55 bauzas jaypipes: FWIW, just reviewing https://review.openstack.org/#/c/448283/ as a side one :)
14:39:10 sfinucan jaypipes, bauzas, ralonsoh: ^ if that point's not in the spec, it should be
14:39:29 sfinucan the "this is a temporary solution until placement can take over" bit, that is
14:39:42 bauzas sfinucan: that's just a gerrit comment for the moment
14:40:10 bauzas sfinucan: I'm not violently opposed on merging that that way
14:40:23 bauzas sfinucan: given the gerrit comment is visible
14:40:41 ralonsoh sfinucan: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/435954/11/specs/pike/approved/enable-sriov-nic-features.rst, L222
14:40:41 bauzas only if we were having a new PS, I'd ask for that being in the spec
14:40:43 sfinucan bauzas: I should hope you're not "violently opposed" to anything in OpenStack :D
14:41:13 sfinucan ralonsoh: Ah, good stuff :)
14:41:26 bauzas sfinucan: I'm violently opposed to bureaucracy, which is hopefully not a trait of OpenStack :)
14:41:34 ralonsoh sfinucan: :P
14:42:21 bauzas ralonsoh: I'm missing how you express the NIC offload capabilities when booting in the spec
14:42:29 bauzas ralonsoh: same old story I guess with flavors ?
14:42:48 bauzas nevermind L127
14:42:56 ralonsoh bauzas: flavors is now out of spec
14:43:05 ralonsoh bauzas: yes, using a neutron port
14:43:41 sfinucan edleafe: Aye, death to the fanatics
14:44:11 bauzas edleafe: I can be extremist for food
14:44:37 sfinucan jaypipes: If you're looking at nova-specs, this is a little improvement on an existing spec https://review.openstack.org/#/c/447401/
14:44:50 sfinucan *one of your existing specs

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