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#openstack-nova - 2017-03-21
21:05:08 bauzas my only concern is that I'm not sure we even have 3-4 slots
21:05:12 mriedem they aren't like design summit
21:05:15 mriedem they are presentations
21:05:20 bauzas I know
21:05:34 mriedem the forum topics are normal fishbowl sessions like before i think
21:05:47 mriedem get devs and ops people together and talk through things for the release
21:05:52 bauzas yeah, it's fishbowls
21:06:08 mriedem what do you mean about your concern that we don't have 3-4 slots?
21:06:20 mriedem we don't have 2 full days of back to back nova sessions anymore, no
21:06:21 mriedem that's the PTG now
21:06:37 mriedem which is why devs don't get funded to go to the summit anymore
21:06:37 bauzas the fact that we would not necessary have all the nova items be covered
21:07:14 mriedem i'm not following you, anything that doesn't have a dedicated session, gets discussed by whoever is there in the dev lounge, or whatever
21:07:27 mriedem http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2017-March/113459.html
21:07:31 mriedem "3/ Free hacking/meetup space"
21:07:39 bauzas it's basically tables in a free room
21:07:39 mriedem ^ is where the spill over stuff happens
21:07:42 mriedem with just devs
21:07:44 mriedem yes
21:07:47 mriedem not scheduled
21:08:20 mriedem i think the entire point of the forum is to get the devs out of the cave,
21:08:24 mriedem and into gen pop
21:08:36 bauzas even if I wasn't expecting a lot of devs at the event, I was still thinking we could do some sprint there
21:08:39 mriedem so there won't be as much time to just sit around and talk through technical things that are going on in the release,
21:08:47 mriedem there will be time for some of that, but not nearly as much as the old design summit
21:09:06 mriedem johnthetubaguy: sdague: ttx: ^ is this all your understanding as well?
21:10:13 bauzas well, I guess my concern is rather about the possibility to have an intermediate f2f meeting with folks to discuss about priorities updates
21:10:23 bauzas and possible tech discussions
21:10:45 bauzas but yeah, I got the message that Forum is not intented for devs just working in their cave
21:10:46 cdent oog like cave
21:11:16 mriedem bauzas: there will be that, when we're not in other sessions
21:11:39 mriedem the 'other' sessions that aren't just nova devs have to be fleshed out and scheduled first,
21:11:50 mriedem then with any free time, we do the priority talk stuff that we'd normally do at a midcycle
21:11:58 mriedem but with like 1/3 of the people
21:17:41 jaypipes sean-k-mooney, alex_xu, cdent, edleafe, sfinucan, mriedem: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/448282
21:18:23 cdent jaypipes: is that for the future or for The Future™?
21:18:31 jaypipes cdent: The FUTURE.
21:30:55 cdent jaypipes: responded with a while hair
21:31:06 cdent or even a wild hair
21:47:14 openstackgerrit Matt Riedemann proposed openstack/nova master: Warn on usage of _LI/_LW/_LE/_LC https://review.openstack.org/448293
21:47:15 mriedem sdague: ^ is something worth doing? for the i18n marker stuff. your latest reply in that thread got me thinking about it.
21:49:17 dansmith omg are we really doing that?
21:49:22 jroll mriedem: man, that's gonna blow up the logs
21:49:24 jroll lol
21:49:33 mriedem just an idea fellas
21:49:48 jroll I haven't read sean's email to be fair
21:49:55 dansmith we can thank IBM for: 1. PowerVM driver (removed), 2. DB2 (removed), 3. Lazy log translations (removed)
21:49:56 mriedem at first i just thought about doing _LW = _, etc
21:50:13 mriedem dansmith: this is different from lazy translation
21:50:31 dansmith fine, 3. whatever you call this
21:50:35 jroll it has been ___ days since we removed a bad IBM idea
21:50:37 mriedem that's better
21:50:40 dansmith jroll: lol
21:51:01 mriedem you can thank ibm for me
21:51:05 mriedem right?!
21:51:11 mriedem <3
21:51:15 dansmith they don't take your calls anymore?
21:51:21 jroll meanwhile the ironic team has spent all day waffling on what to do with msg='foo'; log.error(msg); raise FooError(msg)
21:51:36 mriedem dansmith: no, thank them the other way
21:51:40 jroll do we translate it? not? write extra code to only translate one? god forbid we interpolate twice
21:51:55 dansmith jroll: punt a decision to forum
21:52:03 jroll lol
21:52:17 dansmith that's always the answer
21:52:18 jroll that might be productive, I think there will only be 3-4 ironic devs
21:52:22 dansmith hah
22:01:21 openstackgerrit Matt Riedemann proposed openstack/nova master: Add release note for CVE-2017-7214 https://review.openstack.org/448295
22:01:23 mriedem dansmith: want to take a gander at ^? if ok, i'm going to backport to all branches and prep for releases.
22:08:39 mriedem jroll: btw, have you ever checked the py35 job run logs?
22:08:46 mriedem if you're worried about deprecationg warnings...
22:08:50 mriedem *deprecation
22:08:59 dansmith mriedem: not sure I saw a fix for that merge, but I assume it did?
22:09:05 mriedem dansmith: totes
22:09:25 mriedem dansmith: https://review.openstack.org/#/q/I1d217620e52d45595a3e0e49ed57b4ab33cd1688,n,z
22:09:44 dansmith cool
22:10:02 dansmith mriedem: fast approve?
22:10:27 mriedem dansmith: sure
22:10:33 mriedem i'm doing the stable backports for the reno now
22:11:03 dansmith cool
22:11:10 mriedem billy idol is telling me about how he doesn't have eyes in his face
22:11:13 mriedem or something like that
22:11:29 dansmith INXS is telling me about this One THing
22:11:40 mriedem it's called a belt
22:11:45 mriedem and a room to yourself
22:11:50 mriedem too soon?
22:12:38 dansmith um
22:12:45 mriedem dude
22:12:48 mriedem you don't get the reference?
22:13:19 dansmith well, um...
22:14:20 dansmith oh, heh
22:14:24 mriedem there you go
22:14:26 mriedem geez
22:14:55 mriedem here are the reno backports https://review.openstack.org/#/q/I1f5b772bff8fa2dc508c4bdd3dd1f32838594786,n,z
22:18:26 bauzas mriedem: jroll: EmilienM: before going to bed, I was looking at https://review.openstack.org/#/c/448098/
22:18:45 EmilienM bauzas: ok
22:18:46 bauzas EmilienM: I can't find a Depends-On for this one
22:18:55 EmilienM bauzas: yeah it's on the other way
22:19:03 bauzas EmilienM: how can I make sure it helps TripleO ?
22:19:09 EmilienM because Nova refused to run tripleo job, I had to propose a patch in tripleo to depends on this one
22:19:18 mriedem https://review.openstack.org/#/c/447522
22:19:24 EmilienM bauzas: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/447522/

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