| Posted | Nick | Remark | |
|---|---|---|---|
| #openstack-nova - 2017-03-21 | |||
| 20:38:39 | dansmith | weird | |
| 20:38:49 | mriedem | dansmith: i think cells, placement and limits all fall into the criteria | |
| 20:38:55 | EmilienM | dansmith: some folks will vote yes, and 2 folks from TC, me and Doug AFIK | |
| 20:39:01 | mriedem | for "project-specific, cross-project or strategic/whole-of-community discussions" | |
| 20:39:29 | mriedem | cells is project-specific, placement is cross-project, and limits are whole-of-community | |
| 20:58:53 | bauzas | mriedem: do you see the nova bits of https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/BOS-Nova-brainstorming do you think it would rather fit in the "real" Forum or the newcomers side rooms ? | |
| 20:59:45 | bauzas | I'm confused, I thought it was intended for the former | |
| 21:01:05 | mriedem | nova bits? | |
| 21:01:10 | mriedem | that's a nova-specific etherpad | |
| 21:01:25 | mriedem | there is nothing in there that's suitable for a newcomer probably | |
| 21:01:33 | bauzas | I agree | |
| 21:02:20 | bauzas | mriedem: IIUC, we would put our items into forumtopics.o.o so the TC/UC/Foundation folks would vote on those | |
| 21:02:54 | bauzas | that doesn't necessarly mean all the items we want to discuss will be accepted then | |
| 21:03:18 | bauzas | and https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/BOS-TC-brainstorming is already having lots of proposed sessions | |
| 21:03:43 | openstackgerrit | Vivek Agrawal proposed openstack/nova-specs master: Spec for libvirt driver extension for Veritas HyperScale https://review.openstack.org/430488 | |
| 21:03:58 | mriedem | bauzas: we have 3-4 sessions i think, | |
| 21:04:10 | mriedem | placement (all), cells (all), limits and johnthetubaguy's vm/bm thing | |
| 21:04:24 | mriedem | anything that doesn't get accepted is table talk for the dev cave | |
| 21:04:39 | mriedem | at least that's my understanding | |
| 21:04:48 | bauzas | yeah, that's what I understand | |
| 21:04:53 | mriedem | now having said that, | |
| 21:05:06 | mriedem | dansmith and jaypipes have approved talks for cells and placement already, | |
| 21:05:08 | bauzas | my only concern is that I'm not sure we even have 3-4 slots | |
| 21:05:12 | mriedem | they aren't like design summit | |
| 21:05:15 | mriedem | they are presentations | |
| 21:05:20 | bauzas | I know | |
| 21:05:34 | mriedem | the forum topics are normal fishbowl sessions like before i think | |
| 21:05:47 | mriedem | get devs and ops people together and talk through things for the release | |
| 21:05:52 | bauzas | yeah, it's fishbowls | |
| 21:06:08 | mriedem | what do you mean about your concern that we don't have 3-4 slots? | |
| 21:06:20 | mriedem | we don't have 2 full days of back to back nova sessions anymore, no | |
| 21:06:21 | mriedem | that's the PTG now | |
| 21:06:37 | mriedem | which is why devs don't get funded to go to the summit anymore | |
| 21:06:37 | bauzas | the fact that we would not necessary have all the nova items be covered | |
| 21:07:14 | mriedem | i'm not following you, anything that doesn't have a dedicated session, gets discussed by whoever is there in the dev lounge, or whatever | |
| 21:07:27 | mriedem | http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2017-March/113459.html | |
| 21:07:31 | mriedem | "3/ Free hacking/meetup space" | |
| 21:07:39 | bauzas | it's basically tables in a free room | |
| 21:07:39 | mriedem | ^ is where the spill over stuff happens | |
| 21:07:42 | mriedem | with just devs | |
| 21:07:44 | mriedem | yes | |
| 21:07:47 | mriedem | not scheduled | |
| 21:08:20 | mriedem | i think the entire point of the forum is to get the devs out of the cave, | |
| 21:08:24 | mriedem | and into gen pop | |
| 21:08:36 | bauzas | even if I wasn't expecting a lot of devs at the event, I was still thinking we could do some sprint there | |
| 21:08:39 | mriedem | so there won't be as much time to just sit around and talk through technical things that are going on in the release, | |
| 21:08:47 | mriedem | there will be time for some of that, but not nearly as much as the old design summit | |
| 21:09:06 | mriedem | johnthetubaguy: sdague: ttx: ^ is this all your understanding as well? | |
| 21:10:13 | bauzas | well, I guess my concern is rather about the possibility to have an intermediate f2f meeting with folks to discuss about priorities updates | |
| 21:10:23 | bauzas | and possible tech discussions | |
| 21:10:45 | bauzas | but yeah, I got the message that Forum is not intented for devs just working in their cave | |
| 21:10:46 | cdent | oog like cave | |
| 21:11:16 | mriedem | bauzas: there will be that, when we're not in other sessions | |
| 21:11:39 | mriedem | the 'other' sessions that aren't just nova devs have to be fleshed out and scheduled first, | |
| 21:11:50 | mriedem | then with any free time, we do the priority talk stuff that we'd normally do at a midcycle | |
| 21:11:58 | mriedem | but with like 1/3 of the people | |
| 21:17:41 | jaypipes | sean-k-mooney, alex_xu, cdent, edleafe, sfinucan, mriedem: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/448282 | |
| 21:18:23 | cdent | jaypipes: is that for the future or for The Future™? | |
| 21:18:31 | jaypipes | cdent: The FUTURE. | |
| 21:30:55 | cdent | jaypipes: responded with a while hair | |
| 21:31:06 | cdent | or even a wild hair | |
| 21:47:14 | openstackgerrit | Matt Riedemann proposed openstack/nova master: Warn on usage of _LI/_LW/_LE/_LC https://review.openstack.org/448293 | |
| 21:47:15 | mriedem | sdague: ^ is something worth doing? for the i18n marker stuff. your latest reply in that thread got me thinking about it. | |
| 21:49:17 | dansmith | omg are we really doing that? | |
| 21:49:22 | jroll | mriedem: man, that's gonna blow up the logs | |
| 21:49:24 | jroll | lol | |
| 21:49:33 | mriedem | just an idea fellas | |
| 21:49:48 | jroll | I haven't read sean's email to be fair | |
| 21:49:55 | dansmith | we can thank IBM for: 1. PowerVM driver (removed), 2. DB2 (removed), 3. Lazy log translations (removed) | |
| 21:49:56 | mriedem | at first i just thought about doing _LW = _, etc | |
| 21:50:13 | mriedem | dansmith: this is different from lazy translation | |
| 21:50:31 | dansmith | fine, 3. whatever you call this | |
| 21:50:35 | jroll | it has been ___ days since we removed a bad IBM idea | |
| 21:50:37 | mriedem | that's better | |
| 21:50:40 | dansmith | jroll: lol | |
| 21:51:01 | mriedem | you can thank ibm for me | |
| 21:51:05 | mriedem | right?! | |
| 21:51:11 | mriedem | <3 | |
| 21:51:15 | dansmith | they don't take your calls anymore? | |
| 21:51:21 | jroll | meanwhile the ironic team has spent all day waffling on what to do with msg='foo'; log.error(msg); raise FooError(msg) | |
| 21:51:36 | mriedem | dansmith: no, thank them the other way | |
| 21:51:40 | jroll | do we translate it? not? write extra code to only translate one? god forbid we interpolate twice | |
| 21:51:55 | dansmith | jroll: punt a decision to forum | |
| 21:52:03 | jroll | lol | |
| 21:52:17 | dansmith | that's always the answer | |
| 21:52:18 | jroll | that might be productive, I think there will only be 3-4 ironic devs | |
| 21:52:22 | dansmith | hah | |
| 22:01:21 | openstackgerrit | Matt Riedemann proposed openstack/nova master: Add release note for CVE-2017-7214 https://review.openstack.org/448295 | |
| 22:01:23 | mriedem | dansmith: want to take a gander at ^? if ok, i'm going to backport to all branches and prep for releases. | |
| 22:08:39 | mriedem | jroll: btw, have you ever checked the py35 job run logs? | |
| 22:08:46 | mriedem | if you're worried about deprecationg warnings... | |
| 22:08:50 | mriedem | *deprecation | |
| 22:08:59 | dansmith | mriedem: not sure I saw a fix for that merge, but I assume it did? | |
| 22:09:05 | mriedem | dansmith: totes | |
| 22:09:25 | mriedem | dansmith: https://review.openstack.org/#/q/I1d217620e52d45595a3e0e49ed57b4ab33cd1688,n,z | |
| 22:09:44 | dansmith | cool | |
| 22:10:02 | dansmith | mriedem: fast approve? | |
| 22:10:27 | mriedem | dansmith: sure | |
| 22:10:33 | mriedem | i'm doing the stable backports for the reno now | |
| 22:11:03 | dansmith | cool | |