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#openstack-nova - 2017-03-14
12:56:56 cdent but it ended up feeling like overkill
12:57:20 cdent at some point it will be necessary though as there are plans for managing things like shared disk from the command line
12:58:09 vdrok mhm, I see, thanks cdent !
12:59:23 openstackgerrit Gábor Antal proposed openstack/nova master: Transform instance.reboot notifications https://review.openstack.org/382959
13:10:42 jroll vdrok: if we agree those tests are useful, yes, I'm fine with that client in our tree for now
13:11:31 raghav while doing devstack of ocata release
13:11:40 raghav i am getting below error from nova
13:11:47 vdrok jroll: do you think it would be enough just having the functional ones in nova?
13:12:01 raghav NO hosts found to map to cell
13:12:12 raghav i have not enabled n-cell then why
13:12:20 raghav cell related error is coming
13:12:35 jroll vdrok: yeah, probably, but more tests can't hurt
13:14:43 vdrok jroll: I think for now, yes, they are not super-useful, as we're basically testing that ironic is returning what we expect in the virt driver. but, not mocking out ironic is a good thing :)
13:15:18 jroll vdrok: yeah, I think we'll expand, and later if ironic pushes data directly to placement they'll be very useful
13:15:23 jroll vdrok: I'm fine with landing them
13:16:03 vdrok ok cool :) I'll polish it a bit more, remove some unnecessary stuff today and they'll be ready for review
13:17:15 cdent vdrok: if you could add me to the review when it is ready, I'd appreciate it
13:17:30 vdrok cdent: sure, will do :)
13:19:17 jroll vdrok: awesome, thanks!
13:22:29 raghav hi all i am getting below error..while stacking
13:22:39 raghav NO hosts found to map to cell
13:22:49 raghav ocata release
13:23:07 raghav i have not enabled n-cell servcie then also i am getting this error
13:23:14 raghav could anyone please help me
13:24:38 sdague raghav: this is a completely fresh install?
13:26:45 johnthetubaguy raghav: the install guide is in the process of being updated for ocata, so if you followed that there are some missing steps right now
13:27:06 johnthetubaguy sfinucan: sorry, I mean update the link
13:27:14 raghav i have done clean.sh on my previous devstack installation and then did stack
13:27:33 johnthetubaguy for context I was thinking about https://review.openstack.org/#/c/438328/
13:27:36 johnthetubaguy oh
13:27:40 raghav john: i am using devstack
13:28:36 sdague raghav: honestly, given some of the other issues, please start with a completely fresh OS install
13:28:51 sdague once changes have been made to config, clean.sh may not delete some of those things
13:28:55 sfinucan johnthetubaguy: OK, think I've done that now
13:30:24 johnthetubaguy hmm gerrit appears to hate me
13:30:36 raghav sdague: can there be any other soln than re installation
13:32:07 sdague raghav: given the set of issues you were showing yesterday, I think that debugging the current state of your machine isn't going to be a productive use of anyone's time, including yours
13:32:10 sdague I would start fresh
13:33:27 raghav sdague: ok thank you
13:43:50 raghav sdague: Hi in fresh installation aslo i got same error
13:44:31 sdague raghav: please pastebin all the logs and your local.conf, we know that it's working in the general case, it's tested all the time
13:49:22 raghav sdague: http://paste.openstack.org/show/602688/ please find local.conf
13:49:53 tdurakov Hi folks, caught cold, so couldn't run live migration meeting this week, sorry for inconvenience
13:50:19 cdent tdurakov: we share an internet virus
13:50:55 tdurakov Get well cdent
13:51:08 cdent you too
13:52:46 sdague raghav: why did you set *_BRANCH ?
13:52:57 mriedem lyarwood: this is kind of a monster backport but is something we need to get released sooner than later https://review.openstack.org/#/c/445236/
13:53:56 openstackgerrit Balazs Gibizer proposed openstack/nova master: Transform instance.reboot.error notification https://review.openstack.org/411791
13:55:43 openstackgerrit Danfly proposed openstack/nova master: Completely remove mox from unit/network/test_linux_net.py https://review.openstack.org/445504
13:56:47 lyarwood mriedem: ack, I'll queue that up now, can you unblock https://review.openstack.org/#/c/431540/ when you have time, should be good to go now.
13:57:01 mriedem lyarwood: yeah will look now
13:57:15 lyarwood thanks
14:00:53 mriedem lyarwood: +2
14:01:00 mriedem tonyb: mtreinish: can one of you hit this? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/431540/
14:01:46 mtreinish mriedem: looking
14:02:07 openstackgerrit Dan Smith proposed openstack/nova master: Get instance availability_zone without hitting the api db https://review.openstack.org/439754
14:02:08 openstackgerrit Dan Smith proposed openstack/nova master: Make os-availability-zones know about cells https://review.openstack.org/442163
14:02:12 mriedem bauzas: cdent: jaypipes: so do we want to start looking at creating a placement client? i know mlavalle had already started an osc plugin.
14:02:54 cdent mriedem: just had a chat earlier in the day about that with vdrok
14:02:55 dansmith I thought the point of the simple design was to make it so we don't need a client
14:03:00 mriedem https://github.com/miguellavalle/python-placementclient/tree/adding-grp-support
14:03:05 cdent and we said pretty much what dansmith just said
14:03:23 mtreinish mriedem: +A
14:03:40 mriedem the original spec called out osc CLIs for things like associating resource providers via aggregates,
14:03:53 mriedem or simply listing resource providers as a sanity check
14:04:02 mriedem we expect everyone to just be using curl?
14:04:11 mriedem bra
14:04:13 mriedem *brb
14:04:40 cdent yes, the spec did say that, but I'm not sure we've actually hit those use cases yet, so might be just as easy to wait?
14:04:49 cdent sick bra, have a great time
14:05:45 bauzas mriedem: yeah, I began to work on providing a separate module for that, but I'd prefer to have a separate client
14:06:06 dansmith mriedem: a client for use in cron may make sense, but not a separate client for server code, IMHO
14:06:27 dansmith mriedem: like a simple thing you can run from the cli to report a particular thing, that's not overly complex, but I would expect cinder to just use requests
14:06:42 bauzas dansmith: well, a python client could be cool for OSC
14:06:58 bauzas and for other projects
14:07:04 openstack Launchpad bug 1672624 in OpenStack Compute (nova) "Ceph volumes attached to local deleted instance could not be correctly handled" [Undecided,New]
14:07:04 johnthetubaguy dansmith: melwitt: macsz: seeing bug patterns emerge around this kind of thing: https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/1672624
14:07:11 dansmith bauzas: for human usage, yes, which I think exists today
14:07:56 openstackgerrit Danfly proposed openstack/nova master: Completely remove mox from unit/network/test_linux_net.py https://review.openstack.org/445504
14:08:54 sdague bauzas: so, honestly, I really think that clients are an anti-pattern
14:09:28 bauzas sdague: not sure I understand your concerns
14:09:53 bauzas IMHO, we could provide a python placementclient package so OSC could use it for providing CLI
14:10:08 sdague here is the issue with that
14:10:14 sdague and why I think it's an anti pattern
14:10:16 bauzas exactly like the same difference between nova CLI and novaclient python module
14:10:51 sdague if you say that the client code is the REST api, you have documentation and examples for that, which are part of our normal process
14:11:25 sdague if you say that the client is this other library, then you need to duplicate the entire set of documentation specific to the class structure for that. And no longer is your rest api your documentation.
14:11:48 sdague which needs to include all the examples, etc
14:12:31 bauzas well, other projects do that, nope ?
14:12:47 bauzas we have REST API documentation, but we also have CLI and python bindings docs
14:12:50 sdague they don't, which is why OSC has been gutting a bunch of that
14:12:58 bauzas and when I was an operator, it was not a problem for me
14:13:23 bauzas for example, when I was an operator by Diablo, I looked at the novaclient python bindings docs
14:13:33 bauzas well, Essex sorry by that time
14:13:42 bauzas and I wrote my scripts using those
14:13:56 bauzas for bash things I used CLI docs
14:14:13 bauzas and when I wanted to play with the REST API, well, then... actually I never did this :)
14:14:24 cdent sdague: I have never agreed with you more than I agree with this conclusion " And no longer is your rest api your documentation."
14:14:36 bauzas because getting a token is something a bit confusing honestly

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