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#openstack-nova - 2017-02-28
03:31:43 openstackgerrit Li Yingjun proposed openstack/nova-specs master: Spec for support set vgamem for video https://review.openstack.org/438787
03:51:26 openstackgerrit Li Yingjun proposed openstack/nova master: libvirt: Enable custom video vgamem setting https://review.openstack.org/411191
04:12:51 openstackgerrit Huan Xie proposed openstack/nova master: Make xenserver driver compatible with assert_can_migrate https://review.openstack.org/438792
07:26:39 openstackgerrit Sivasathurappan Radhakrishnan proposed openstack/nova master: Remove mox from nova.tests.unit.virt.xenapi.test_xenapi[1] https://review.openstack.org/438825
07:28:20 openstackgerrit Sivasathurappan Radhakrishnan proposed openstack/nova master: Remove mox from nova/tests/unit/virt/xenapi/test_xenapi.py[1] https://review.openstack.org/438825
07:38:35 openstackgerrit Takashi NATSUME proposed openstack/nova-specs master: List/show all server migration types https://review.openstack.org/407237
07:59:38 Dinesh_Bhor Hi all, I have fresh OpenStack installed on Ubuntu 14.04 but I am unable to boot vm. Logs in n-cpu says that: "InternalError: Nova requires libvirt version 1.2.9 or greater."
08:01:52 Dinesh_Bhor I tried to update libvirt version but it only installs 1.2.2. I have ubuntu 14.04 LTS.
08:02:09 openstack Launchpad bug 1532460 in libvirt (Ubuntu) "Please upgrade to allow virsh blockcommit in Ubuntu 14. libvirt-1.2.9 (and above)" [Undecided,Fix released]
08:02:09 Dinesh_Bhor I found some bug here: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libvirt/+bug/1532460
08:43:26 gmann alex_xu: mriedem: this looks good but new error code bug me - https://review.openstack.org/#/c/429476/4
09:00:57 vsaienk0 Hello nova team I'm wondered why multinode tempest test is skipped on grenade multinode in base tests? http://logs.openstack.org/76/429476/4/check/gate-grenade-dsvm-neutron-multinode-ubuntu-xenial/f6613ff/logs/grenade.sh.txt.gz#_2017-02-26_23_56_30_146
09:05:39 vsaienk0 I meant is it expected behavior?
09:08:34 frickler can someone explain the difference between default_availability_zone and default_schedule_zone? both descriptions look roughly the same to me here: https://docs.openstack.org/draft/config-reference/compute/config-options.html#id3
09:25:12 openstackgerrit Gao Yuan proposed openstack/nova master: Stop using mox stubs in nova.tests.unit.api.openstack.compute.test_serversV21 https://review.openstack.org/438873
09:38:23 johnthetubaguy frickler: I did look into all that AZ stuff when we tidied up the descriptions, but you are right, its not very clear from that
09:39:22 openstack Launchpad bug 1668542 in openstack-manuals "nova.conf - az configuration options in Configuration Reference" [Undecided,New]
09:39:22 frickler johnthetubaguy: I just opened https://bugs.launchpad.net/openstack-manuals/+bug/1668542 because looking at the code I became even more confused
09:39:39 johnthetubaguy frickler: that probably needs to be a nova bug, the text lives in nova
09:40:29 frickler johnthetubaguy: added. probably the "open bug" link on the bug page could need amending then, too
09:40:50 frickler s/bug page/doc page/
09:42:35 johnthetubaguy frickler: yeah, it probably does, not sure if you can change that per page, probably worth a manuals bug for that!
09:44:10 johnthetubaguy frickler: ah, so one is about where the host lives by default, and one is about where instances go, I think...
09:50:08 frickler johnthetubaguy: yes, that is my interpretation, but would be nice to get it confirmed, then I could make a patch for the docs
09:52:29 frickler johnthetubaguy: hmm, the source for the page seems to be ./doc/config-reference/source/compute/config-options.rst in openstack-manuals, though
09:57:40 johnthetubaguy frickler: that thing is auto-generated by a script, so its a two part ifx
09:57:42 johnthetubaguy fix
09:58:19 openstackgerrit John Garbutt proposed openstack/nova master: Fix default_availability_zone docs https://review.openstack.org/438887
09:59:09 johnthetubaguy frickler: does that patch look like it makes it cleaer?
10:00:29 johnthetubaguy hmm, not sure my wording is brilliant, but suggestions welcome
10:01:35 openstackgerrit John Garbutt proposed openstack/nova-specs master: WIP: Backlog spec on preemptible instances https://review.openstack.org/438640
10:04:02 frickler johnthetubaguy: ah, nice, I was just about to do a patch for doc/config-reference/source/tables/nova-availabilityzones.rst , will that get synced from the data in nova? or should I do my patch in parallel anyway?
10:04:41 johnthetubaguy frickler: I think the sync is manual, there is a readme on how to do that in that repo somewhere
10:04:57 johnthetubaguy frickler: but I think you could checkout my patch on your system, inside the docs build system, to pull in the change
10:05:29 johnthetubaguy frickler: maybe its easier just to patch it directly for now! yeah, do it in parallel, and have a depends-on header pointing to my patch I think
10:06:29 frickler johnthetubaguy: will do after you replied to my small comments ;)
10:08:12 bauzas morning folks
10:09:41 bauzas johnthetubaguy: frickler: context around AZs ?
10:10:22 bauzas johnthetubaguy: frickler: just in case you need more knowledge, there are kludges with those opts https://docs.openstack.org/developer/nova/aggregates.html#availability-zones-azs
10:10:39 bauzas see the warning section ^
10:10:41 johnthetubaguy yeah, its the config doc that is confusing
10:10:46 openstackgerrit John Garbutt proposed openstack/nova master: Fix default_availability_zone docs https://review.openstack.org/438887
10:11:08 johnthetubaguy bauzas: its very tempting to just deprecate that one
10:11:53 bauzas ah, gotcha
10:11:55 johnthetubaguy frickler: bauzas makes a good point though, the AZ stuff was never really "finished" its all a bit broken honestly. Now placement API work should mean we can look at fixing some of that all soo
10:11:58 johnthetubaguy n
10:12:11 bauzas so, lemme clarify some tribal knowledge
10:12:28 johnthetubaguy bauzas: sure
10:13:01 bauzas first, we have a weird concept of a "default" AZ
10:13:18 bauzas ie. controlplane services have AZs too
10:13:34 bauzas while we can't actually schedule them as a target :)
10:14:42 bauzas secondly, we differenciate hosts vs. instances when they have no AZs
10:15:00 bauzas instead of saying "I don't care at all about AZs so the AZ field should be blank"
10:15:16 bauzas we then have 2 opts that are different:
10:15:31 bauzas if you don't care about AZs for your instance, then you need to set it blank
10:15:49 bauzas but if you don't care about AZs for your hosts, then you need to set it as "nova"
10:15:55 bauzas so much fun around
10:16:50 bauzas anyway, given that, fixing AZs a long way towards, and I don't want us to diverge from the placement effort
10:16:58 bauzas somehow, that has to be a trait
10:17:02 johnthetubaguy bauzas: yeah, in summary, its nuts
10:17:30 bauzas yeah, I'm personnally in favor of deprecating the whole concept of AZs and just leave it at the API level
10:17:40 bauzas instead, computes have location traits
10:17:57 johnthetubaguy so... once we get the cinder "AZ" and routed networks sorted, it gets interesting again
10:17:59 bauzas and instances could request affinity based on those location traits
10:18:14 johnthetubaguy ah, generic location traits are my preference, but AZ is just one of those
10:18:25 bauzas long-term anyway
10:18:28 johnthetubaguy there was a great spec on that from randall nortman, somewhere
10:18:36 bauzas so in the meantime, what we can fix is docs
10:18:49 bauzas but there could be room for some slight improvement tho
10:18:51 johnthetubaguy changing up server groups to deal with generic location specifiers, and multiple of them
10:18:59 bauzas yeah I remember that one
10:19:09 johnthetubaguy thats the one our users really want
10:19:17 bauzas I know
10:19:29 johnthetubaguy cool, just making that the explicit goal I guess
10:19:37 johnthetubaguy we might want to make that a backlog spec actually
10:20:06 openstackgerrit Lee Yarwood proposed openstack/nova master: db: Add attachment_id to block_device_mapping https://review.openstack.org/437597
10:20:06 openstackgerrit Lee Yarwood proposed openstack/nova master: objects: Add attachment_id to BlockDeviceMapping https://review.openstack.org/437665
10:20:06 bauzas tbh, affinity based on location specifiers is an old old story I have in my pipe
10:20:31 bauzas anyway, let's move on
10:20:31 johnthetubaguy lyarwood: is that the first steps of the Cinder thing?
10:21:01 lyarwood johnthetubaguy: yeah I guess, I had the bdm uuid changes still in my backlog so thought I'd just do the same again for attachment_id
10:21:15 johnthetubaguy lyarwood: ah, good idea
10:21:16 bauzas wow, Gerrit is in a bad shape
10:21:33 johnthetubaguy lyarwood: I have this one that could do with some eyes: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/373203/
10:21:47 johnthetubaguy I mean you could just poke your eyes yourself, but I have a lovely spec to do that for you
10:22:01 johnthetubaguy bauzas: so I thought my internet was just slow, but you might be right
10:22:14 bauzas HTTP502 killed me
10:22:21 bauzas so, no, this is not internet :p
10:22:28 johnthetubaguy oh, its tipped over into death land then
10:22:29 lyarwood johnthetubaguy: haha yeah, I'll go over the spec again this morning
10:22:38 johnthetubaguy lyarwood: awesome, thank you
10:22:50 johnthetubaguy I have a feeling I forgot some details from the discussion
10:23:12 bauzas johnthetubaguy: I actually wonder if we couldn't just try to fix default_availability_zone as wezll
10:23:26 johnthetubaguy bauzas: ?
10:23:40 bauzas johnthetubaguy: having it set to none by default would just fix a looooooot of problems
10:23:47 bauzas s/problems/misunderstandings
10:24:01 bauzas johnthetubaguy: and we could then deprecate default_schedule_zon
10:24:03 johnthetubaguy at this point most folks are used to seeing the Nova AZ default I guess, I could go either way
10:24:38 johnthetubaguy hmm, I duno, some folks want to send all builds into a certain zone at times, I think thats why HP public cloud added that
10:24:45 bauzas johnthetubaguy: lemme rephrase, if we could have default_availability_zone having None as default and having default_schedule_zone be deprecated, that would be a nice improvement

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