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#openstack-nova - 2017-02-03
11:48:56 jroll warning: this only applies if you're doing CD by the day/week
11:48:59 jroll idk maybe it's fine
11:49:06 jroll feels like we should tell people somehow though
11:57:55 johnthetubaguy cdent: jroll: oh, so this is affecting ironic already, I kept thinking it wasn't
11:58:08 johnthetubaguy wires crossed in my head
11:58:11 jroll johnthetubaguy: yeah, since a few days ago, I believe
11:59:54 johnthetubaguy surely since last cycle when we started reporting the inventory?
12:00:14 johnthetubaguy or did we skip ironic till really recently?
12:00:40 jroll johnthetubaguy: oh. ohhhhhh.
12:00:46 jroll damn
12:00:57 jroll yeah, we only noticed it when scheduling switched to inventory
12:01:12 johnthetubaguy oh, right, its only impacting since we started caring about whats in there
12:01:13 jroll but I guess the real problem might be much longer eh
12:01:33 jroll I guess we could spin up a newton install and test this easily
12:02:51 cdent johnthetubaguy: are you taking typing lessons from me "I was forgetting this could already an issue in production for folks, we should do that thing."
12:03:15 johnthetubaguy heh
12:03:53 cdent So how should this reno express itself? Do we explain just the issue or the issue and the hack for how to deal with it? Or something else?
12:04:45 johnthetubaguy cdent: its probably worth saying the problem you will see with iroinc and placement if you don't clear out old deleted nodes
12:05:15 johnthetubaguy cdent: its tempting to hack up some tool to help fix that, but we good to stop the bleeding with this patch anyways
12:06:23 cdent Just so I'm clear on the situation how would that hack operate? How do you know which things on the placement api side to delete?
12:06:50 johnthetubaguy because they are not in the current compute node list? I am not 100% sure actually
12:07:16 jroll doesn't resource_provider.uuid == ironic_node.uuid here?
12:09:28 johnthetubaguy cdent: so compute node is soft_delete, so if they don't trim that table, we could double check from soft deleted compute nodes to double check they are all removed
12:12:11 cdent but if they do, then they truly are orphans, unless the rp.name is useful in some fashion?
12:14:13 cdent so the hack is for each get_all_soft_delete_compute_nodes; try_to_delete_rp_with_same_uuid()
12:14:32 johnthetubaguy name is hypervisor_hostname I think
12:14:49 johnthetubaguy https://github.com/openstack/nova/blob/master/nova/scheduler/client/report.py#L630
12:16:09 jroll and hypervisor_hostname is the ironic node uuid
12:16:30 johnthetubaguy can you get a list of the deleted uuids though?
12:16:46 johnthetubaguy I mean you can get all the current ones and spot the difference
12:16:50 johnthetubaguy maybe thats the best way
12:16:57 jroll yeah that'd be the only way
12:17:19 cdent blechy
12:17:32 jroll for cn in compute_nodes: if ironic.get_node(cn.hypervisor_hostname) gives a 404: deleted_nodes.append(cn.hypervisor_hostname)
12:17:52 jroll delete from resource_providers where name in $deleted_nodes;
12:17:52 johnthetubaguy but we already deleted the compute node
12:18:08 jroll oh right, s/compute_nodes/inventory thing
12:18:14 jroll you get the idea :)
12:18:16 johnthetubaguy ah, gotcha
12:18:28 cdent "inventory thing"?
12:18:42 cdent (hasn't had sufficient coffee to get the idea)
12:18:44 jroll heh
12:19:11 jroll for rp in resource_providers: if ironic.get_node(rp.name).status_code == 404: deleted_nodes.append(rp.name)
12:19:14 jroll cdent: ^
12:19:19 johnthetubaguy yeah, that
12:20:31 cdent isn't that proposing deleting all resource providers that are not ironic nodes?
12:20:34 johnthetubaguy feels like we should add a nova-manage to do that
12:20:57 jroll cdent: yes, more sanity checks are needed for deployments that include not-ironic and such
12:20:59 johnthetubaguy cdent: yeha, I guess we have to mix in compute nodes too
12:21:11 jroll if I was going for 100% ready to ship I wouldn't be writing this in irc :)
12:21:23 johnthetubaguy listing all compute nodes, would do it, rather than iroinc I guess
12:21:26 cdent and any other resource providers someone has chosen to create outside the context of the resource tracker
12:21:50 cdent we cannot assume the list of resource providers is only things "we" have created
12:22:03 jroll true
12:22:27 johnthetubaguy well, feels liek we should add some user concepts in, when we can't assume that
12:23:08 jroll maybe the reno is just "if you get build failures trying to schedule to a non-existent node, check *waves hands* stuff, you might need to delete the RP"
12:23:13 cdent I gotta break away for several minutes, perhaps we can all percolate on this for a small window of time and we'll know something after that?
12:23:24 cdent jroll++ :)
12:24:58 johnthetubaguy yeah, a vague reno is better than no reno or fix getting in
12:25:26 cdent bbs
12:28:21 BobBall johnthetubaguy / mriedem: Citrix XenServer CI is back healthy now - can username citrix_xenserver_ci be re-added to the voting group https://review.openstack.org/#/admin/groups/511,members?
13:06:42 openstackgerrit Lee Yarwood proposed openstack/nova master: libvirt: Remove redundant bdm serial mangling and saving during swap_volume https://review.openstack.org/427364
13:18:02 johnthetubaguy BobBall: OK
13:18:42 openstackgerrit Silvan Kaiser proposed openstack/nova master: Removes getfattr from Quobyte Nova driver https://review.openstack.org/428646
13:18:59 johnthetubaguy BobBall: is a vote on this one coming really soon? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/424428/
13:19:34 BobBall johnthetubaguy: If by soon you mean 25 minutes ago, then yes
13:19:53 BobBall We commented but didn't having voting rights so no vote :)
13:25:31 tdurakov BobBall: in case of re-roll please add change-log comment to xen migrate data object
13:26:06 johnthetubaguy BobBall: heh, thats soon, cool. turns out you have to click refresh
13:26:31 BobBall tdurakov: Sure will do - what do you mean by re-roll though?
13:26:39 tdurakov BobBall: also, what if I'm migration instances, from 6.5 to 7.0 or vice versa is this field required for both of them?
13:27:01 tdurakov BobBall: resubmit patch
13:27:08 tdurakov in case of ^
13:28:05 johnthetubaguy tdurakov: I believe this is Nova version related, not XenServer version related
13:28:07 BobBall tdurakov: Migrating from 7.0 to 6.5 isn't supported by XenServer - XAPI will prevent that explicitly. 6.5 to 7.0 will work as the source doesn't look at or use the vif_map, it's prepared by and used by the target.
13:28:42 tdurakov johnthetubaguy: from the but definiton I understood that xen version affect this as well
13:28:51 tdurakov s/but/bug
13:28:57 johnthetubaguy yeah, I see that detail now
13:28:59 johnthetubaguy oops
13:29:00 mriedem cdent: johnthetubaguy: jroll: vdrok: edleafe: on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/428375/ i think we actually should raise a ResourceProviderInUse or some kind of exception if we delete the compute node but can't delete the resource provider,
13:29:05 BobBall johnthetubaguy: XS 7.0 introduced the requirement of the vif map
13:29:06 mriedem because that means we won't reschedule
13:29:44 cdent mriedem: but what would catch it? it's already getting logged as a warning?
13:30:00 mriedem way up in the compute manager
13:30:03 johnthetubaguy mriedem: I thought this was just getting called from some periodic task?
13:30:07 mriedem the thing that caught the NodeNotFound in the bug report
13:30:09 mriedem no
13:30:12 mriedem well,
13:30:18 johnthetubaguy both I guess
13:30:19 mriedem yeah it is
13:30:29 mriedem the periodic task doesn't delete the RP,
13:30:32 mriedem and then the scheduler uses it,
13:30:44 mriedem which then blows up with NodeNotFound in build_and_run_instances
13:30:48 mriedem which triggers a reschedule to another node
13:30:49 mriedem so,
13:30:56 mriedem i guess raising the exception up doesn't help
13:30:58 mriedem fooy
13:31:04 cdent indeed
13:31:30 cdent this is messy. mriedem did you see all the chatter above about how to word a reno note (I linked on the review if not)
13:31:44 mriedem i didn't read that yet

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