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#openstack-nova - 2017-01-23
11:07:18 bauzas cdent: but then we would have huge problems
11:07:53 bauzas cdent: I rather preferred to use the keystone public way of avoiding the SC
11:08:17 cdent keystoneauth1 has made a commitment to not change the interface on its public methods without changing the entire name of the package?
11:08:21 bauzas but like I said previously, that looks a nit to me and we could discuss on that later on
11:08:38 bauzas cdent: sure, we can trust them
11:08:47 bauzas cdent: that's just riskier, that's it
11:08:52 bauzas anyway
11:09:17 cdent and even if it did break, we could just fix it when it broke: the tests will have done their job in that case
11:09:19 bauzas I'm totally up discussing on that after FF :)
11:09:52 bauzas probably we could accept not to fake our scheduler client methods and rather mock the Service object
11:10:22 bauzas but I think we could still use the Server proxy to really run an wsgi server and not intercept
11:10:47 bauzas but that's my thoughts - just coming along while tests are running on my local desktop and that I have a bit of time :)
11:11:46 cdent Out of curiosity why do you prefer the server proxy?
11:14:58 bauzas cdent: because that's running our internals
11:15:13 cdent What are "our internals"?
11:15:21 bauzas internal piece of code
11:15:59 bauzas and we're not emulating a socket, we *run* it
11:16:08 bauzas which makes possible to debug the app outside of the test
11:16:26 bauzas but meh.
11:16:58 bauzas anyway, back to work
11:17:00 cdent okay, but when the placement api runs for real, it doesn't use any of the nova Server() handling
11:23:11 openstackgerrit Bob Ball proposed openstack/nova: Use physical utilisation for cached images https://review.openstack.org/353862
11:25:00 openstackgerrit Claudiu Belu proposed openstack/nova: hyper-v: Adds support for VMs with nested virtualization https://review.openstack.org/398509
11:26:42 cdent bauzas: I've got a couple questions on the CoreFilter issue that are probably easier to track here than email. You got time to answer them now or should I just post a response to the email?
11:27:25 bauzas cdent: just throw me a bit of them
11:29:02 cdent In the world before Placement API existed, if I disabled the CoreFilter, that means that select_destinations could return some compute nodes that would reject a "placement" and cause a retry because it didn't have enough cores. Is that right?
11:31:28 openstackgerrit Alex Xu proposed openstack/nova: Limit the min length of string for integer JSON-Schema https://review.openstack.org/415103
11:31:47 cdent bauzus: If it is right, then asking the placement api for vcpu resources is simply short circuiting that retry and we should do that?
11:31:57 johnthetubaguy alex_xu: I would expect no policy.json file in a new install, empty I guess is OK too.
11:32:12 alex_xu johnthetubaguy: got it, thanks
11:32:13 johnthetubaguy alex_xu: in the future I was thinking a fully commented out yaml file, a bit like what we do for config
11:32:27 alex_xu johnthetubaguy: ok
11:33:26 alex_xu johnthetubaguy: I probably figure out a way to implement the 3 cases you pointed out. so I will work with Kevin_Zheng to update the patch.
11:35:00 johnthetubaguy alex_xu: Kevin_Zheng: let me know how that goes, for me the warning message is an optional extra, as we could leave the old rules ill we can get that into olso.policy
11:40:36 bauzas cdent: sorry, missed your question
11:40:54 bauzas cdent: in a world where an operator disables the CoreFilter, we don't verify VCPUs
11:41:14 bauzas cdent: most of them for example are disabiling the DiskFilter for the exact reason it doesn't count correctly
11:41:34 cdent we don't verify vcpus at the scheduler level but do at the compute node level, or we don't very vcpus _anywhere_?
11:41:51 bauzas cdent: if you don't run the CoreFilter, we don't return a limit
11:42:12 alex_xu hachi: we didn't suggest to use user_id based policy check. That was added back to the code just for backward-compatible, it may be removed in the future
11:42:16 bauzas cdent: if so, that's coming to the compute, and then we verify the claim without verifying the limit
11:42:44 bauzas cdent: which means no allocation ratio
11:42:45 cdent interesting
11:43:18 bauzas cdent: so, I'm a bit afraid that a lot of operators have disabled the DiskFilter
11:43:58 bauzas cdent: if now we check the disk size directly without having the aggregates created automatically for the RPs, then they could have problmes
11:44:05 cdent so your idea is to remove resource classes from the request to /resource_providers based on which filters are disabled
11:44:11 bauzas cdent: yup
11:44:23 bauzas cdent: lemme upload the change this afternoon and you'll see
11:44:26 cdent and the change would solely be on the nova-scheduler side
11:44:33 bauzas yup
11:45:03 cdent cool. It makes sense. My main concern was that we should change something on the placement server-side based on nova's config
11:45:08 bauzas I just have a problem with our FakeDriver creating the same hypervisor hostname for all our computes
11:45:28 bauzas so, once I fix that, I'll upload
11:46:26 openstackgerrit Chris Dent proposed openstack/nova: Optional separate database for placement API https://review.openstack.org/362766
11:49:07 openstackgerrit Stephen Finucane proposed openstack/nova: Fix and add some notes to the cells v2 first time setup doc https://review.openstack.org/421421
11:55:49 openstackgerrit Alvaro Lopez Garcia proposed openstack/nova: Ensure that periodic reclaim cleans DB deleted instances https://review.openstack.org/323250
12:00:27 openstackgerrit Zhenyu Zheng proposed openstack/nova: Fix device taging after API microversion 2.37 https://review.openstack.org/423952
12:28:16 openstackgerrit Wang Qing wu proposed openstack/nova: WIP(5): Introduce base PowerVM driver (ovs vif) https://review.openstack.org/422512
12:39:16 openstackgerrit Wang Qing wu proposed openstack/nova: WIP(5): Introduce base PowerVM driver (ovs vif) https://review.openstack.org/422512
12:48:38 openstackgerrit Alex Szarka proposed openstack/nova: Transform instance-live_migration_abort notification https://review.openstack.org/420453
12:55:46 lyarwood sfinucan: thanks for the review on the findmnt change, https://review.openstack.org/#/c/418371/ is another straight forward one adding a missing releasenote if you have time today
13:02:49 snikitin johnthetubaguy: Hi John! can you look at instance diagnostics implementation for Xen please? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/399613/
13:06:48 hachi alex_xu thank you.
13:06:59 hachi but i don't want my users within the same project do accidently delete the VM(s) of each other.
13:07:18 hachi how i can do that without user_id policy ?
13:09:12 bhagyashris cdent: Hi,
13:11:21 alex_xu hachi: you can lock the instance
13:14:21 cdent bhagyashris: hi, what's up?
13:14:55 dims sean-k-mooney : jaypipes : https://review.openstack.org/#/c/423718/ does the trick for getting os-vif's linuxbridge working
13:15:33 hachi alex_xu thank you for the tip. I will try that.
13:15:43 amrith andreykurilin, ping. I'm having a little issue with nova's 7.0.0 client, would you have a couple of minutes to help out? thx
13:16:59 amrith one part of this is a change you submitted, https://review.openstack.org/#/c/412497/
13:17:31 amrith appears that something changed in 7.0.0 which I'm not quite grok'ing. pl ping me if you have a minute andreykurilin. thx
13:18:03 openstackgerrit Zhenyu Zheng proposed openstack/nova: Add new policy for server list/detail with all_tenants https://review.openstack.org/415330
13:19:56 openstackgerrit Julian proposed openstack/nova: Create cmd/script that prints JSON Schema of Notification Payload Classes https://review.openstack.org/411836
13:21:27 alex_xu hachi: np
13:27:21 openstackgerrit Zhenyu Zheng proposed openstack/nova: Add sort_key white list for server list/detail https://review.openstack.org/415142
13:31:32 openstackgerrit Sylvain Bauza proposed openstack/nova: Fix the FakeDriver using same hypervisor names https://review.openstack.org/424110
13:31:32 openstackgerrit Sylvain Bauza proposed openstack/nova: WIP: Scheduler calling the Placement API https://review.openstack.org/417961
13:32:06 bauzas cdent: johnthetubaguy: dansmith: latest versions for the high-prio scheduler placement changes ^
13:33:45 bauzas cdent: you'll see now the conditional branch for checking the filters before calling the placement service
13:34:47 bhagyashris cdent: I have few questions in my mind regarding Scheduler calling the Placement API [1] https://review.openstack.org/#/c/417961. 1. As it updates allocation information at the placement db so is there a need of compute node table for resource tracking?
13:37:07 cdent bhagyashris: the resource tracker and the nova-scheduler will carry on needing to know about compute nodes, yes. Is that what you're asking? The placement services itself will not need to know about the compute node table, just the uuids of those compute nodes, represented as resource providers in the placement api
13:37:48 openstackgerrit Mikhail Feoktistov proposed openstack/nova: libvirt: ephemeral disk support for virtuozzo containers https://review.openstack.org/312488
13:42:29 openstackgerrit Claudiu Belu proposed openstack/nova: hyper-v: Do not allow instances with pinned CPUs to spawn https://review.openstack.org/424116
13:47:18 sfinucan lyarwood: Done and done https://review.openstack.org/#/c/418371/1
13:47:45 sfinucan johnthetubaguy: ^ that looks like a straightforward +W - could you take a glance if you have a moment?
13:49:13 lyarwood sfinucan: cheers
13:50:22 bhagyashris cdent: I know , i am asking lot of questions :) I just want to know if we are using the placement apis then will compute node table be needed in that case? If it will used then in which case it will be used and for what?
13:51:29 diga jaypipes: Hi
13:51:31 johnthetubaguy sfinucan: ack, thanks
13:51:31 cdent bhagyashris: it will carry on being used for keeping track of the compute nodes because nova still needs to know about them
13:51:51 cdent diga: jaypipes is on PTO, maybe somebody else can help?
13:52:04 diga cdent: Hi, sure
13:52:20 diga cdent: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/423872/ can you review this spec - placement notification
13:53:09 cdent yeah, sure, will stick that on my list for today
13:54:22 diga cdent: :) thank you!
13:54:31 diga cdent: we have meeting now right ?
13:54:36 cdent yeah, in five minutes
13:55:00 diga okay

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