| Posted | Nick | Remark | |
|---|---|---|---|
| #openstack-cyborg - 2018-09-05 | |||
| 14:05:22 | zhipeng | wangzhh yes got it lol | |
| 14:05:47 | zhipeng | #topic Stein PTG agenda crafting | |
| 14:05:55 | zhipeng | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/cyborg-ptg-stein | |
| 14:06:07 | Sundar | #info Sundar | |
| 14:06:13 | wangzhh | Congratulations. | |
| 14:06:48 | zhipeng | as Li Liu mentioned, it seems that Nova team already planned a cross-project meeting with cyborg | |
| 14:06:53 | zhipeng | on Thursday right ? | |
| 14:07:13 | Li_Liu | yes | |
| 14:07:23 | Coco_gao | #info Coco_gao | |
| 14:07:39 | Li_Liu | Thursday "Cross Project Day" 11:10am - lunch: Cyborg/Nova cross project session | |
| 14:07:42 | Sundar | zhipeng: The main cross-project Nova/Cyborg needs to be on Cyborg time. Nova team will have a spill over time in case the discusions don;t complete | |
| 14:08:07 | Li_Liu | Is it in Cyborg's room or Nova's room? | |
| 14:08:19 | Sundar | We need to arrange for a session on Mon/Tue and let Nova team know ahead of time | |
| 14:08:52 | Sundar | Cyborg's room on Mon/Tue. The Thu slot is in Nova's room but that is a second follow-up | |
| 14:09:11 | Sundar | We do not expect all discussions to complete in 1 hour session | |
| 14:09:37 | zhipeng | okey then what I would propose is that | |
| 14:09:42 | zhipeng | we concentrate on Monday | |
| 14:09:52 | zhipeng | and use Tuesday for spillovers | |
| 14:10:20 | Coco_gao | Agree | |
| 14:10:43 | zhipeng | I need to jump over the public cloud wg session as well, on Tuesday | |
| 14:10:53 | Sundar | zhipeng: Sure. We could arrange for the Nova session on mon afternoon? Hopefully that's enough time for folks to come in to the PTG venue | |
| 14:11:09 | zhipeng | That's good enough for me :) | |
| 14:11:18 | Sundar | Cool :) | |
| 14:11:32 | Li_Liu | So the main discussion will be happening on Mon and Tues? | |
| 14:11:39 | Sundar | Good to know you will be there :) | |
| 14:11:46 | zhipeng | The main one will be on Monday | |
| 14:11:50 | Li_Liu | ok | |
| 14:11:52 | Coco_gao | Do we have an outline about the meeting with nova? | |
| 14:12:04 | Li_Liu | I will take Monday off at least | |
| 14:12:26 | zhipeng | So some update, Li Liu will not make it to Denver unfortunately due to work conflict at company | |
| 14:12:27 | Sundar | I broadly wrote it as os-acc. The workflow itself is still a matter of contention. | |
| 14:12:32 | zhipeng | and I got a late hail marry | |
| 14:12:37 | zhipeng | so I will stand in for Li | |
| 14:12:43 | zhipeng | to organize the meetings | |
| 14:12:48 | zhipeng | and dinners :) | |
| 14:12:54 | Coco_gao | Dinners~ | |
| 14:13:22 | zhipeng | Ok let's go to the etherpad | |
| 14:13:30 | zhipeng | first organize the nova related topics | |
| 14:13:41 | Sundar | Li_Liu and all: please give your os-acc feedback in the spec before the PTG, in case you can't make it. | |
| 14:14:45 | Li_Liu | sure, will do.. I am kinda tied up recently. Will do some reviews in next couple days | |
| 14:15:09 | zhipeng | Sundar any idea for the Neutron cross discussion ? | |
| 14:15:13 | zhipeng | I really like that topic | |
| 14:15:28 | Sundar | zhipeng: Yes. Neutron has given a slot on Thu. | |
| 14:15:30 | zhipeng | shall we also invite Neutron guys over ? | |
| 14:15:43 | Li_Liu | can we propose it in Neutron's etherpad? | |
| 14:15:47 | zhipeng | Oh good, so we could talk them on Thu right ? | |
| 14:15:56 | Li_Liu | g8t | |
| 14:16:26 | Sundar | https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/neutron-stein-ptg Thu 3:15-4:15 pm | |
| 14:16:40 | Sundar | zhipeng: Yes | |
| 14:16:52 | zhipeng | nice ! | |
| 14:17:26 | Sundar | There is also an Ironic/Neutron session on smart NICs. Not sure how far Cyborg will be involved there. But, since I am involved in that project, I'll be there too | |
| 14:17:29 | zhipeng | but we could align internally on Mon or Tuesday | |
| 14:17:41 | Sundar | Sure | |
| 14:18:18 | Sundar | As always, please give feedback in the etherpad early :) | |
| 14:19:39 | Sundar | We should have another session on broadening Cyborg scope to PCI devices. You might have seen Eric's question on whether we can handle IB for e.g. I think we can, without much architectural effort | |
| 14:19:59 | Li_Liu | Yes, that one | |
| 14:20:04 | Li_Liu | looking forward to it | |
| 14:20:12 | Sundar | The actual implementation, of course, can be left to whoever has the knowledge and resources for that :) | |
| 14:21:06 | Sundar | Also, how will Cyborg handle infrastructure offload? Like OVS offload? | |
| 14:21:27 | Sundar | Perhaps this is Neutron area, or may be Cyborg needs to be involved. One can argue both ways | |
| 14:21:45 | zhipeng | ya offload is another interesting area | |
| 14:21:57 | zhipeng | ovs/dpdk/ebpf offloading | |
| 14:22:23 | zhipeng | so what do we like for Monday morning ? | |
| 14:22:32 | zhipeng | retrospect of course | |
| 14:22:35 | zhipeng | and ? | |
| 14:23:09 | Sundar | Internal discussions -- lke db schemas? | |
| 14:23:38 | Coco_gao | after this, we can summarize what need to change in DB model and OVOs to make it more general. | |
| 14:23:47 | zhipeng | sounds good | |
| 14:24:14 | Sundar | RSD (composable arch) can also be Cyborg-internal to start with | |
| 14:24:26 | Li_Liu | Is Brian from Xilinx coming? | |
| 14:24:34 | zhipeng | i've no idea | |
| 14:25:02 | Li_Liu | I will follow up with him then, also the update on the Xilinx device drivers | |
| 14:25:10 | dolpher | Brian mentioned he could attend, but not confirmed with him | |
| 14:25:21 | wangzhh | We also need to disscuss how to handle different Arch. and system in cyborg. | |
| 14:26:22 | Sundar | wangzhh: can you elaborate? ^ | |
| 14:28:01 | wangzhh | Such as x86, power(different) or libvirt, xen(different hypervisor). | |
| 14:28:47 | wangzhh | different Arch... Sorry. | |
| 14:29:15 | wangzhh | Some operations like attach and detach | |
| 14:29:37 | Coco_gao | I suggest we discuss the "evolution" after "General Accelerator Management", It don't know whether this will have impact on DB. | |
| 14:30:03 | Sundar | wangzhh: Nova folks say that the instane attach and hypervisor-specific but not device-specific) ops should be left to Nova virt (and possibly os-acc but even that is debated) | |
| 14:30:04 | Coco_gao | what wangzhh said just now may also have impact on DB | |
| 14:30:46 | zhipeng | the general mgmt will be a long way to go | |
| 14:31:04 | Sundar | Better to have Disaggregated servers as a separate topic | |
| 14:31:04 | zhipeng | and I want to make sure Eric Fried got time to join :P | |
| 14:31:06 | shaohe_feng__ | #info shaohe_feng_ | |
| 14:31:34 | zhipeng | Sundar maybe under drivers ? | |
| 14:32:09 | Sundar | It will include representation etc. | |
| 14:32:34 | wangzhh | Sundar, It is vendor driver which handle these. | |
| 14:32:37 | Sundar | We can club it in any session :) as long as we know it will be wide-ranging | |
| 14:32:54 | zhipeng | ah alright :) | |
| 14:33:05 | Sundar | RSD is not vendor-specific :) Many OEM vendors support composable arch, | |
| 14:33:36 | Sundar | There is a large RSD+OpenStack effort outside of devices abd Cyborg | |
| 14:33:40 | Sundar | *and | |
| 14:34:13 | Sundar | We need to figure out how Cyborg fits in with Nova and others for that | |
| 14:34:38 | zhipeng | understood | |
| 14:35:04 | shaohe_feng__ | Sundar: does ironic support to compose a RSD node, now? | |
| 14:35:33 | Coco_gao | @jiapei | |
| 14:36:41 | Sundar | The composition is separate from whether it is provisioned as a bare metal server. But I think Ironic + RSD is already on the cards | |
| 14:37:29 | Sundar | There is a RSD openstack client to compose nodes: https://github.com/openstack/python-rsdclient | |
| 14:39:31 | shaohe_feng__ | yes, Do we need to integrate this client to ironic first？ | |