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#openstack-cyborg - 2018-05-28
14:29:42 Li_Liu I will update another patch to address Rushil's comments
14:29:48 Li_Liu in term of code dev
14:29:55 Li_Liu I have started some of it
14:30:53 shaohe_feng #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/559395/
14:31:08 shaohe_feng yes, Rushil give some comments.
14:31:25 shaohe_feng you need to address them.
14:31:32 Li_Liu yup
14:31:50 shaohe_feng Li_Liu, I will help sundar on his nova-cyborg integration focuses on placement provider update.
14:32:11 Li_Liu ok
14:32:32 shaohe_feng Li_Liu, which comment in cyborg will update the placement, conductor or agent?
14:33:57 shaohe_feng I remeber nova update the placement in n-cpu (same with cyborg agent)
14:34:01 Li_Liu I think agent for sure needs to update placement
14:34:19 shaohe_feng I think so.
14:35:21 shaohe_feng This is NOVA BP for nest provider
14:35:22 shaohe_feng #link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/nova/+spec/nested-resource-providers
14:35:30 Li_Liu in terms of conductor, I am not sure, but I think Cyborg controller needs to update placement
14:37:45 shaohe_feng Li_Liu, I found you have add placement client in Cyborg
14:38:16 Li_Liu yes
14:38:16 shaohe_feng Guess it does not support nest provider, right?
14:38:35 Li_Liu at that time, prob not
14:38:40 shaohe_feng Nova's nest provider patch has been merged.
14:39:01 Li_Liu sure, I will see what I can do about it
14:39:29 shaohe_feng So in cyborg, we can support nest provider.
14:39:45 Li_Liu yup, we should
14:40:13 shaohe_feng and last IRC meeting, we have agreement to support multi-resource classes.
14:40:30 shaohe_feng nest provider + multi-resource classes
14:40:43 Li_Liu ok
14:41:31 shaohe_feng Ok, I think that's all from me.
14:42:06 shaohe_feng Li_Liu, anything more need to discuss or update?
14:42:16 Li_Liu a lot things need to work on
14:42:22 shaohe_feng yes.
14:42:41 shaohe_feng What's else can I help, let me know.
14:42:58 Li_Liu sure, will let you know in case I need help
14:44:01 shaohe_feng OK, let's work together to push cybork keep going
14:44:51 Li_Liu I will try to give a summary on the summit during the project general irc this week
14:45:22 shaohe_feng good, expect it. Thanks.
14:46:05 shaohe_feng If no more, we can end the meeting.
14:49:36 shaohe_feng #endmeeting
14:49:38 openstack Meeting ended Mon May 28 14:49:36 2018 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4)
14:49:39 openstack Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstack_cyborg_driver/2018/openstack_cyborg_driver.2018-05-28-14.02.html
14:49:40 openstack Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstack_cyborg_driver/2018/openstack_cyborg_driver.2018-05-28-14.02.txt
14:49:41 openstack Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstack_cyborg_driver/2018/openstack_cyborg_driver.2018-05-28-14.02.log.html
15:04:14 openstackgerrit Li Liu proposed openstack/cyborg master: Added cyborg fpga programming spec https://review.openstack.org/559395
#openstack-cyborg - 2018-05-29
12:50:21 openstackgerrit wangzhh proposed openstack/cyborg master: Load cyborg-api app with paste_deploy https://review.openstack.org/570931
16:34:46 openstackgerrit ShaoHe Feng proposed openstack/cyborg master: doc fix: devstack setup doc can not display well https://review.openstack.org/570968
17:07:00 openstackgerrit Li Liu proposed openstack/cyborg master: Added cyborg fpga programming spec https://review.openstack.org/559395
#openstack-cyborg - 2018-05-30
02:11:27 openstackgerrit Li Liu proposed openstack/cyborg master: Added cyborg fpga programming spec https://review.openstack.org/559395
07:59:04 shaohe_feng zhipengh[m], I have update the wiki https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Cyborg#How_to_contribute
07:59:33 shaohe_feng add DevStack Quick Start link to the wiki
08:00:25 shaohe_feng so New contributors can follow it setup their cyborg env.
08:01:14 shaohe_feng Any issue during the setup, they can fix it and feedback to community.
09:24:11 openstackgerrit Merged openstack/cyborg master: doc fix: devstack setup doc can not display well https://review.openstack.org/570968
09:25:50 openstackgerrit wangzhh proposed openstack/cyborg master: Load cyborg-api app with paste_deploy https://review.openstack.org/570931
09:39:25 openstackgerrit wangzhh proposed openstack/cyborg master: Load cyborg-api app with paste_deploy https://review.openstack.org/570931
14:03:08 Sundar #info Sundar
14:09:30 sum12 no meeting today ?
14:10:10 Li_Liu still waiting for Howard
14:10:44 Li_Liu shaohe_feng can you start the meeting for us?
14:10:56 Li_Liu in case Howard is in middle of something\
14:11:28 Sundar The meeting topic is set to 'spec review day'. Was that announced earlier?
14:12:19 Li_Liu I think that is for a few week earlier
14:14:19 shaohe_feng Li_Liu, hello
14:15:12 Li_Liu let start the meeting shaohe_feng
14:15:46 shaohe_feng #startmeeting openstack-cyborg
14:16:02 shaohe_feng #topic Roll Call
14:16:16 Sundar #info Sundar
14:16:17 shaohe_feng #info shaohe_feng
14:16:39 Li_Liu #info Li_Liu
14:17:31 Li_Liu #topic summit summary
14:17:39 Li_Liu am I doing it right?
14:17:55 Li_Liu changing the topic
14:18:02 shaohe_feng yes.
14:18:33 shaohe_feng welcome Li_Liu introduce his experience during summit.
14:18:58 Li_Liu ok, a few of us went to the summit last week. Welcome to Canada for those of you who came
14:19:30 Li_Liu We had a few talks given regarding to Cyborg
14:20:22 Li_Liu I gave a Cyborg project update. Friends from Lenovo gave a demo using Cyborg to manage GPUs in their ThinkCloud product
14:20:56 Li_Liu JF. Ding also gave a talk with 99 cloud folks, which involves cyborg a lot
14:21:29 Li_Liu the general feedback is great. A lot of attentions are coming the way to Cyborg
14:21:40 shaohe_feng good.
14:22:06 Li_Liu couple quick comments from the audiences
14:22:40 sum12 any recurring comments ?
14:23:23 Li_Liu 1. Managing GPUs is still not a killer app for Cyborg. Prob showing other capabilities on top of this might draw more attentions
14:25:12 Li_Liu 2. In order to become a strong piece of OpenStack or even addition to k8s in the future, we need to push the development further and faster
14:25:36 Li_Liu as we are actually facing competitions from the Nova vGPU management.
14:26:09 Li_Liu currently we are at pretty much the same stage as them.
14:27:28 Li_Liu some people are looking at us since they think currently vGPU management in Nova should just be temperate.
14:28:14 Li_Liu They believe once Cyborg becomes more mature, it should be the one actually solve the general problem
14:28:32 Li_Liu This is from me.
14:28:41 Li_Liu anyone else has anything to share?
14:29:24 Sundar I moderated a session on Cyborg/FPGA in Cloud/NFV.
14:29:56 shaohe_feng Sundar, can you give a summary about it?
14:30:04 Sundar It was meant for discussion with operators and end users. We had Verizon, SKA and CERN there, apart from many developers, incl. Nova developers
14:30:35 Sundar The discusison is here: #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/Cyborg-FPGA-Support-for-Cloud-NFV
14:31:14 Sundar One of the main conclusions is that the model where VM issues programming requests (what we called run-time programming) is important
14:31:27 Sundar However, we do not have a good end-to-end flow for that today.
14:31:44 Sundar This is an open question that we should address.
14:32:11 Li_Liu The main concern is who to trigger the programming right?
14:32:57 Sundar That is one of the main concerns, the other being the validity of the bitstream itself
14:33:11 Li_Liu ah, that one
14:34:15 Sundar For example, if a developer is developing new RTL inside the VM, the resulting bitstream may have bugs. Can that compromise the shell logic? Can it result in local hot spots or other power issues that affect the FPGA chip itself?

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