The problem with PC is that far too many people make a lifestyle of being

'professionally uncomfortable'. They are also largely (but not entirely)

mediocrities. Our country (Australia) is a harsh land where rewards are many

but only for those willing to work hard, take risks and able to 'suck it

up'. Although it is changing sadly, political correctness is still viewed

dimly. Demanding your rights or being perpetually 'offended' by everything

is a highway to failure. You don't have to like it for it to be true. How

many of your American success stories are politically correct? Not many.

The other thing that has been noticed is that when you give up one statement

or descriptor or behaviour in the name of political correctness, it does not

end there. There is always the next target, the next criticism, the next

assault. Read Germaine Greer. Started her life out as a feminist and after

that battle was essentially won has moved on to complaining about pretty

much everything in the universe.

We criticise Islam to still seeking revenge on murders and wars from 1400

years ago. Slavery was a great evil, but it is also a very, very long time

ago. So yes, it IS time to move on and suck it up. After all, it is an IT

term, not a socio-political terminology. No one is seeking to make a

statement of any kind whatsover.

'controller and responder' has overtones of domestic violence. See how easy

it is to offend pretty much anyone who was born without a skin?

-----Original Message-----

From: ProFox [mailto:profox-bounces@leafe.com] On Behalf Of Ted Roche

Sent: Monday, 14 December 2015 10:23 AM

To: profox@leafe.com

Subject: Re: Alternatives to Master and Slave Terminology Redux

We've used "gender changers" for a long time in electronics. Pretty few

people need an explanation of what the terms mean.

As far as "political correctness" goes, that's a term used by people who

think that phrases that make other people uncomfortable is fine with them,

and other people ought to just suck it up. It's dismissive, and rude. If

you'd like to discuss further, I'd suggest we take it [OT] as it is.

"Controller' and "responder" is less fraught terminology, my partner

suggests.

On Sun, Dec 13, 2015 at 5:26 PM, Geoff Flight <datades@adam.com.au> wrote:

> Being Australian we have no cultural sensitivities to slavery, but to

> be honest, master/slave works perfectly and was the reason it was used

> in the first place. From my perspective, I simply dont get the problem

other than

> the growing problem with political correctness. What is going to happen

> when electricians need to no longer use male and female plugs and how

> on earth do we include transexual plugs?

>

> -----Original Message-----

> From: ProFox [mailto:profox-bounces@leafe.com] On Behalf Of Gene

> Wirchenko

> Sent: Saturday, 12 December 2015 8:58 AM

> To: ProFox Email List <profox@leafe.com>

> Subject: Alternatives to Master and Slave Terminology Redux

>

> Dear Vixens and Reynards:

>

> I realise that it is Friday afternoon, but I work then, too.

>

> I really do want some terminology that is accurate, minimally

> offensive, and that does not sound stupid.

>

> Have another look at my use case:

>

> 2) The second one is puzzling me. I have forms with an (often) key

> portion (master) and a non-key portion (slave). "key" and "non-key"

> are awkward and do not communicate well to a non-IT person. "parent"

> and "child" is not accurate. What do you suggest?

>

> Sincerely,

>

> Gene Wirchenko

>

>

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