Author: Matthew S. Jarvis, mjarvis@peak.org
Posted: 1999-08-29 at 23:39:28
VFP (5) exports to FPW, but will VFP export to FPD? If so, maybe the VFP6
with DBC rules might be an interesting combined solution.
mjar
At 10:19 PM 8/29/99 -0700, you wrote:
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>Thanks for the input, Bill:
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>Since the data would probably require a couple of steps' worth of massaging
>I was planning on a blanket APPEND FROM ... TYPE SDF then continuing from
>there (I'm not sure, not having seen the whole project) unless I learn that
>low-level file functions are significantly faster. Unless they want to
>change from FPD, I don't get any .DBC capabilities, either, so a middle
>step of massaging seems likely anyway.
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>Russ Scott
>russsct@ix.netcom.com
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>At 10:17 PM 8/29/99 -0400, you wrote:
>>Russ,
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>>This is a matter of great concern to me too, and I posted a question and got
>>some interesting responses not too long ago on the subject. I have a monthly
>>job that imports a few million records spread across almost a thousand
>>tables (ZIP4 tables for the entire US). Because the data has to be massaged
>>on the way into tables, I originally setup the import process to (low level
>>I/O) read the ASCII fixed fields table, do the work and then APPEND BLANK to
>>add a record to the database.
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>>I sped up the process a little by APPENDing blank records in 1,000 record
>>"blocks" and then replacing the blank fields of each until the 1,000 empty
>>records was filled and repeated the process again.
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>>Working this way, the import takes something like 2 days on a P133 machine.
>>A faster machine probably would help, but relegating the job to a 'spare'
>>machine that just chugs away seems to be the least bothersome. One thing I
>>did do is design the process so multiple machines could participate in a
>>time crunch, and that does work very well when needed.
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>>Suggestions I received for speeding up the process included using APPEND
>>TYPE SDF, which would bring in each table en masse, but that would have to
>>be followed with another step to do the massaging needed to prepare the
>>tables for use, since UDFs can't be used on individual fields with APPEND
>>TYPE SDF (but that would only partially address the data massaging
>>requirements anyway). Another suggestion, by Anders, that seems to have a
>>lot of merit, but I didn't try it yet, is to use APPEND TYPE SDF but with
>>rules in the target DBC (has to be VFP and target has to be DBC, tho) ...
>>I'm anxious to try this, but can't get to it yet.
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>>In general, processing each input record and then adding it to a table using
>>APPEND BLANK is very slow compared to a bulk-add using APPEND TYPE SDF.
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>>As for FPD versus VFP in terms of speed, I know some people think that FPD
>>if faster, but my experience so far with VFP shows that VFP (6, anyway, with
>>SP3 if that means anything) it's actually faster than equivalent FPD apps. I
>>attribute the difference to better memory management in VFP, but that's only
>>my gut feeling (wish I had better measurement tools; I like the Profiler,
>>but can't find a way to track I/O utilization). I have not yet tested the
>>bulk-import under VFP, the tests I'm referring to are different, but they
>>are long running processor and I/O intensive jobs.
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>>Bill
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>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: profox@leafe.com [mailto:profox@leafe.com]On Behalf Of Russ Scott
>>Sent: Sunday, August 29, 1999 9:57 PM
>>To: Multiple recipients of ProFox
>>Subject: FoxPro DOS v. Visual Foxpro : Speed of data conversion /
>>processing
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>>Hey, all:
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>>I have a chance to investigate a data conversion job. This would involve
>>importing from a flat file into FP tables, formatting/ massaging it, then
>>outputting it to another set of flat files. The company uses FPD (not sure
>>which version) instead of VFP because "FPD is faster". To give you an idea
>>of the size of the jobs involved, they take from ~1 hour to multiple days.
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>>This causes me to ask some questions:
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>>Would FPD really be faster for data conversion if you compared VFP under
>>Win9x/NT to FPD running on the same machine booted to DOS only? Does the
>>version of DOS make a significant difference? Does anyone have any hard
>>data, educated guesses or gut feelings about this?
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>>Are there considerations besides speed (reliablility for example) to take
>>into consideration?
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>>On a related note, has anyone clocked APPEND FROM... and COPY TO... against
>>low-level file commands?
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>>I don't have to talk to these people for a couple of days and was curious
>>if anyone else had looked into these issues.
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>>Any ideas?
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>>Thanks:
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>>Russ Scott
>>russsct@ix.netcom.com
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