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1999-08-12 16:58Miller, Tony, tmiller@probusiness.com: Just a test message...
1999-08-12 17:02Gunvaldson, John, jgunvald@scndetsd.massopac.navy.mil: RE: Just a test message...
1999-08-12 17:21RSA Forward, eleafe@RSA-NET.COM: Re: Just a test message...
1999-08-12 17:31Miller, Tony, tmiller@probusiness.com: RE: Just a test message...
1999-08-12 18:46Gene Wirchenko, genew@shuswap.net: Re: Just a test message...
1999-08-12 18:46Gene Wirchenko, genew@shuswap.net: RE: Just a test message...
1999-08-12 18:49Miller, Tony, tmiller@probusiness.com: RE: Just a test message...
1999-08-12 18:58Miller, Tony, tmiller@probusiness.com: RE: Just a test message...
1999-08-12 21:54Ed Leafe, ed@leafe.com: RE: Just a test message...
1999-08-13 10:21Bill Smallwood, bills@tradermags.com: Re: Just a test message...
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Just a test message...

Author: Miller, Tony, tmiller@probusiness.com

Posted: 1999-08-12 16:58:23   Link

Just wanted to see if I can post here.. Was just booted off Foxshare for

arguing with Adolph over the garagabe e-mails that their server was sending

out yesterday..

> -----Original Message-----

> From: Cotton Jerry P [SMTP:CottonJP@2mawcp.usmc.mil]

> Sent: Thursday, August 12, 1999 1:48 PM

> To: Multiple recipients of ProFox

> Subject: RE: Vertical letters

>

> Works, but it's UGLY.

>

> Jerry

>

> >-----Original Message-----

> >From: David L. Crooks [mailto:dcrooks@tass.com]

> >Sent: Thursday, August 12, 1999 4:32 PM

> >To: Multiple recipients of ProFox

> >Subject: RE: Vertical letters

> >

> >

> >I would use a bitmap graphic. Most paint programs allow you

> >to type and

> >rotate text.

> >

> >> -----Original Message-----

> >> From: Cotton Jerry P [SMTP:CottonJP@2mawcp.usmc.mil]

> >> Sent: Thursday, August 12, 1999 4:23 PM

> >>

> >> Unfortunately this isn't for a form, it's for a report from the VFP

> >> report

> >> writer. Thank God I'm not coding this one but it looks like

> >I will be

> >> the

> >> idiot in charge of making sure THEY do it right.

> >>

> >> Thanks

> >> Jerry

> >>

> >> >-----Original Message-----

> >> >From: Brian Robichaud [mailto:jbr@bretech.com]

> >> >Sent: Thursday, August 12, 1999 4:08 PM

> >> >To: Multiple recipients of ProFox

> >> >Subject: RE: Vertical letters

> >> >

> >> >

> >> >

> >> >There is no vertical font (that I know of) ... but my solution

> >> >to this was

> >> >to create a table in Word, in each cell in the table, I put a

> >> >text box with

> >> >the text rotated 90 degrees. I then manually lined up the

> >> >items that lie

> >> >below each "heading".

> >> >

> >> >L

> >> >o

> >> >t

> >> >s

> >> >

> >> >o

> >> >f

> >> >

> >> >people suggested turning the word-wrap on and sizing the

> >> >standard label to

> >> >get the above effect, but I think my solution worked better.

> >> >

> >> >If you need any clarification, let me know I'll send you a

> >> >pict of my form

> >> >so you can see how I did it.

> >> >

> >> >Brian

> >> >mailto:jbr@bretech.com

> >> >

> >> >-----Original Message-----

> >> >From: profox@leafe.com [mailto:profox@leafe.com]On Behalf Of Cotton

> >> >Jerry P

> >> >Sent: Thursday, August 12, 1999 04:54 PM

> >> >To: Multiple recipients of ProFox

> >> >Subject: Vertical letters

> >> >

> >> >

> >> >Never thought I'd have a need to print vertically from VFP but

> >> >now I do.

> >> >Who posted the solution when this question was raised a couple

> >> >weeks ago?

> >> >

> >> >Am I hallucinating or was there a vertical font?

> >> >

> >>

> >

> >

> >

>

>

©1999 Miller, Tony, tmiller@probusiness.com
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RE: Just a test message...

Author: Gunvaldson, John, jgunvald@scndetsd.massopac.navy.mil

Posted: 1999-08-12 17:02:00   Link

Well,

I see you <g> and I raise you a new / better mailing list! Good to see you

Tony!

John Gunvaldson

Fox/Net West

San Diego, CA

-----Original Message-----

From: Miller, Tony [mailto:tmiller@probusiness.com]

Sent: Thursday, August 12, 1999 1:58 PM

To: Multiple recipients of ProFox

Subject: Just a test message...

Just wanted to see if I can post here.. Was just booted off Foxshare for

arguing with Adolph over the garagabe e-mails that their server was sending

out yesterday..

-----Original Message-----

From: Cotton Jerry P [SMTP:CottonJP@2mawcp.usmc.mil]

Sent: Thursday, August 12, 1999 1:48 PM

To: Multiple recipients of ProFox

Subject: RE: Vertical letters

Works, but it's UGLY.

Jerry

>-----Original Message-----

>From: David L. Crooks [ mailto:dcrooks@tass.com <mailto:dcrooks@tass.com> ]

>Sent: Thursday, August 12, 1999 4:32 PM

>To: Multiple recipients of ProFox

>Subject: RE: Vertical letters

>

>

>I would use a bitmap graphic. Most paint programs allow you

>to type and

>rotate text.

>

>> -----Original Message-----

>> From: Cotton Jerry P [SMTP:CottonJP@2mawcp.usmc.mil]

>> Sent: Thursday, August 12, 1999 4:23 PM

>>

>> Unfortunately this isn't for a form, it's for a report from the VFP

>> report

>> writer. Thank God I'm not coding this one but it looks like

>I will be

>> the

>> idiot in charge of making sure THEY do it right.

>>

>> Thanks

>> Jerry

>>

>> >-----Original Message-----

>> >From: Brian Robichaud [ mailto:jbr@bretech.com <mailto:jbr@bretech.com>

]

>> >Sent: Thursday, August 12, 1999 4:08 PM

>> >To: Multiple recipients of ProFox

>> >Subject: RE: Vertical letters

>> >

>> >

>> >

>> >There is no vertical font (that I know of) ... but my solution

>> >to this was

>> >to create a table in Word, in each cell in the table, I put a

>> >text box with

>> >the text rotated 90 degrees. I then manually lined up the

>> >items that lie

>> >below each "heading".

>> >

>> >L

>> >o

>> >t

>> >s

>> >

>> >o

>> >f

>> >

>> >people suggested turning the word-wrap on and sizing the

>> >standard label to

>> >get the above effect, but I think my solution worked better.

>> >

>> >If you need any clarification, let me know I'll send you a

>> >pict of my form

>> >so you can see how I did it.

>> >

>> >Brian

>> > mailto:jbr@bretech.com <mailto:jbr@bretech.com>

>> >

>> >-----Original Message-----

>> >From: profox@leafe.com [ mailto:profox@leafe.com

<mailto:profox@leafe.com> ]On Behalf Of Cotton

>> >Jerry P

>> >Sent: Thursday, August 12, 1999 04:54 PM

>> >To: Multiple recipients of ProFox

>> >Subject: Vertical letters

>> >

>> >

>> >Never thought I'd have a need to print vertically from VFP but

>> >now I do.

>> >Who posted the solution when this question was raised a couple

>> >weeks ago?

>> >

>> >Am I hallucinating or was there a vertical font?

>> >

>>

>

>

>

©1999 Gunvaldson, John, jgunvald@scndetsd.massopac.navy.mil
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Re: Just a test message...

Author: RSA Forward, eleafe@RSA-NET.COM

Posted: 1999-08-12 17:21:14   Link

Hi Tony,

>Just wanted to see if I can post here.. Was just booted off Foxshare for

>arguing with Adolph over the garagabe e-mails that their server was

sending

>out yesterday..

Sorry to hear that the purges continue over there. But please don't

let that experience keep you from posting on this list. There are no such

punitive limitations on expressing your thoughts here. And isn't it amazing

that chatter-type discussions here have run their course in a day or so,

with no rules or threats involved. Goes to show that this is a pretty

intelligent and responsible group (despite appearances at Devcon and other

conferences!) ;-)

©1999 RSA Forward, eleafe@RSA-NET.COM
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RE: Just a test message...

Author: Miller, Tony, tmiller@probusiness.com

Posted: 1999-08-12 17:31:01   Link

Darcy is now trying to explain to me why there are people being kicked off

Foxshare... What a crock of ^&*%$..

Their server was sending out rejected e-mails to the entire list and then

more, since it was trying to send the rejected messages to rejected e-mail

sites... What a crock..

> -----Original Message-----

> From: eleafe@RSA-NET.COM [SMTP:eleafe@RSA-NET.COM]

> Sent: Thursday, August 12, 1999 2:21 PM

> To: Multiple recipients of ProFox

> Subject: Re: Just a test message...

>

> Hi Tony,

>

> >Just wanted to see if I can post here.. Was just booted off Foxshare for

> >arguing with Adolph over the garagabe e-mails that their server was

> sending

> >out yesterday..

>

> Sorry to hear that the purges continue over there. But please don't

> let that experience keep you from posting on this list. There are no such

> punitive limitations on expressing your thoughts here. And isn't it

> amazing

> that chatter-type discussions here have run their course in a day or so,

> with no rules or threats involved. Goes to show that this is a pretty

> intelligent and responsible group (despite appearances at Devcon and other

> conferences!) ;-)

>

>

>

©1999 Miller, Tony, tmiller@probusiness.com
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Re: Just a test message...

Author: Gene Wirchenko, genew@shuswap.net

Posted: 1999-08-12 18:46:20   Link

>Just wanted to see if I can post here.. Was just booted off Foxshare for

Hey! We're not picky: we'll take practically any post!

>arguing with Adolph over the garagabe e-mails that their server was sending

>out yesterday..

Welcome to the Dark Side! Nice here in the shade, isn't it? ProFox is

a no-frills listserve: please remember to supply your own lemonade/whatever.

Does anyone have a count on how many of us how been traumatized for

life, for life I tell you, by being booted off FoxShare?

It used to that having been booted off FoxShare had a certain

distinction, but since the purges continue, it's not nearly so special

anymore. I'd protest to Darcy if I thought it would do any good.

[snipped junk]

Sincerely,

Gene Wirchenko

genew@shuswap.net

Computerese Irregular Verb Conjugation:

I have preferences.

You have biases.

He/She has prejudices.

©1999 Gene Wirchenko, genew@shuswap.net
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RE: Just a test message...

Author: Gene Wirchenko, genew@shuswap.net

Posted: 1999-08-12 18:46:22   Link

>Darcy is now trying to explain to me why there are people being kicked off

>Foxshare... What a crock of ^&*%$..

^^^^^

Hey! Watch your language! This is a grown-ups' listserve. (You can

say "shit" if you want to.)

So Darcy has taken up explaining his actions? This is good: He

realizes he can't be a heavy-handed dictator. This is bad: He is justifying

his crimes. Maybe I'll just enter a .null. here.

>Their server was sending out rejected e-mails to the entire list and then

>more, since it was trying to send the rejected messages to rejected e-mail

>sites... What a crock..

It has happened before.

[snipped previous]

Sincerely,

Gene Wirchenko

genew@shuswap.net

Computerese Irregular Verb Conjugation:

I have preferences.

You have biases.

He/She has prejudices.

©1999 Gene Wirchenko, genew@shuswap.net
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RE: Just a test message...

Author: Miller, Tony, tmiller@probusiness.com

Posted: 1999-08-12 18:49:28   Link

I can forward you his take on the "purges" if you like..

> -----Original Message-----

> From: genew@shuswap.net [SMTP:genew@shuswap.net]

> Sent: Thursday, August 12, 1999 3:46 PM

> To: Multiple recipients of ProFox

> Subject: Re: Just a test message...

>

> >Just wanted to see if I can post here.. Was just booted off Foxshare for

>

> Hey! We're not picky: we'll take practically any post!

>

> >arguing with Adolph over the garagabe e-mails that their server was

> sending

> >out yesterday..

>

> Welcome to the Dark Side! Nice here in the shade, isn't it? ProFox

> is

> a no-frills listserve: please remember to supply your own

> lemonade/whatever.

>

> Does anyone have a count on how many of us how been traumatized for

> life, for life I tell you, by being booted off FoxShare?

>

> It used to that having been booted off FoxShare had a certain

> distinction, but since the purges continue, it's not nearly so special

> anymore. I'd protest to Darcy if I thought it would do any good.

>

> [snipped junk]

>

> Sincerely,

>

> Gene Wirchenko

> genew@shuswap.net

>

> Computerese Irregular Verb Conjugation:

> I have preferences.

> You have biases.

> He/She has prejudices.

>

>

©1999 Miller, Tony, tmiller@probusiness.com
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RE: Just a test message...

Author: Miller, Tony, tmiller@probusiness.com

Posted: 1999-08-12 18:58:12   Link

Another response he sent me on the subject of getting off of the Killlist..

[Miller, Tony] Tony,

I had mentioned to Adolph that you had appologized and he agreed to add you

back but the bunch of test messages and a belly achy complaint into the list

isn't helping the situation. Do you realize that hundreds of people receive

those messages?

The purpose of the list is not to belly ache to the group if you don't like

the way the group is run. Your best bet if you don't like how it is run is

to email the operators directly or to do volunteer work to help change it. I

have also set up a special section on the website for this purpose as well.

Darcy

>

©1999 Miller, Tony, tmiller@probusiness.com
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RE: Just a test message...

Author: Ed Leafe, ed@leafe.com

Posted: 1999-08-12 21:54:09   Link

On 8/12/99 6:49 PM, Miller, Tony supposedly said:

>I can forward you his take on the "purges" if you like..

Sure, why not. We all use a chuckle at the end of a long, grueling

week...

___/

/

__/

/

____/

Ed Leafe

http://leafe.com/

©1999 Ed Leafe, ed@leafe.com
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Re: Just a test message...

Author: Bill Smallwood, bills@tradermags.com

Posted: 1999-08-13 10:21:48   Link

I have two observations:

1- The "purge" has cost Foxshare dearly in terms of losing some great

contributors, all in the name preserving the list's quality. The result is

certainly a net loss.

2- "The Dark Side" has inspired wit, banter and chatter that I have enjoyed

tremendously. If some are turned off by the soap opera which made that

possible, I am not among them. My dirty little confession is that I have

been amused by it. I expect that I'm not alone. I'm not a Jerry Springer

fan but I guess I'm made of the right stuff to become one.

Gene, this post quote below is exactly what I mean. I laughed my ass off.

--

Bill Smallwood

Trader Media Corp.

Toronto, Ontario Canada

bills@tradermags.com

> Welcome to the Dark Side! Nice here in the shade, isn't it? ProFox

is

> a no-frills listserve: please remember to supply your own

lemonade/whatever.

>

> Does anyone have a count on how many of us how been traumatized for

> life, for life I tell you, by being booted off FoxShare?

>

> It used to that having been booted off FoxShare had a certain

> distinction, but since the purges continue, it's not nearly so special

> anymore. I'd protest to Darcy if I thought it would do any good.

©1999 Bill Smallwood, bills@tradermags.com