NOTE: I had tried posting this yesterday, but the message never got posted. I checked the logs, and it showed that it was received, passed spam filtering, and then... nothing. What followed was several hours of debugging with the help of Claude Opus 4.8. I finally tracked down the root cause, but had no idea why it started failing now: I hadn't changed anything since the list upgrade back in January. While I was messing around I decided to also fix the broken footers, so those should be working.
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I thought I'd share a little bit of what goes on to host this list (and the Dabo lists).
I use rspamd (https://www.rspamd.com/) as my spam filter. I have the list software configured to run everything through it before it begins processing any email; those that are flagged as spam are written to a file and otherwise ignored.
Once a day I have a script running on a cron job that analyzes that file, and sends me a single email summary of the previous day's suspected spam for review. It's rare to find legitimate mail that was incorrectly marked as spam, but it does happen.
The script extracts the subjects, senders, and recipients, and sorts them by count, and then alphabetically. It also contains a link I can click to delete the file if there's nothing good in it.
This morning's summary was larger than usual. Typically there are a couple hundred held spam messages a day, but yesterday the total was 933! That's a lot of spam!
I was going to include the email summary in this post, but with all those spammy subjects, it wouldn't make it through any of your spam filters, so I posted it on my website, with some internal details redacted.
https://leafe.com/docs/listspam.html
-- Ed Leafe
That's a lot of spam!
I'm not seeing footers on the emails at all.
Two or three emails did get through the filters, two from "Victoria
Victoria@sovereignsymbol.com via leafe.com" and one from "The Edge Men Want
support@laverdaddemonagas.com via leafe.com"
Let me know if I you need more info, I can forward them to you off-list.
On Sun, May 31, 2026 at 10:52 AM Ed Leafe <ed@leafe.com> wrote:
> NOTE: I had tried posting this yesterday, but the message never got
> posted. I checked the logs, and it showed that it was received, passed spam
> filtering, and then... nothing. What followed was several hours of
> debugging with the help of Claude Opus 4.8. I finally tracked down the root
> cause, but had no idea why it started failing now: I hadn't changed
> anything since the list upgrade back in January. While I was messing around
> I decided to also fix the broken footers, so those should be working.
>
> = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = =
> = = = = = = = = = = =
>
> I thought I'd share a little bit of what goes on to host this list (and
> the Dabo lists).
>
> I use rspamd (https://www.rspamd.com/) as my spam filter. I have the list
> software configured to run everything through it before it begins
> processing any email; those that are flagged as spam are written to a file
> and otherwise ignored.
>
> Once a day I have a script running on a cron job that analyzes that file,
> and sends me a single email summary of the previous day's suspected spam
> for review. It's rare to find legitimate mail that was incorrectly marked
> as spam, but it does happen.
>
> The script extracts the subjects, senders, and recipients, and sorts them
> by count, and then alphabetically. It also contains a link I can click to
> delete the file if there's nothing good in it.
>
> This morning's summary was larger than usual. Typically there are a couple
> hundred held spam messages a day, but yesterday the total was 933! That's a
> lot of spam!
>
> I was going to include the email summary in this post, but with all those
> spammy subjects, it wouldn't make it through any of your spam filters, so I
> posted it on my website, with some internal details redacted.
>
> https://leafe.com/docs/listspam.html
>
>
> -- Ed Leafe
>
>
>
On May 31, 2026, at 10:05, Ted Roche <tedroche@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> That's a lot of spam!
Yeah, I see a lot every day, but that was pretty extreme.
> I'm not seeing footers on the emails at all.
Hmm... I'm getting two copies: one with footers, and one without. I'll dig into that
> Two or three emails did get through the filters, two from "Victoria
> Victoria@sovereignsymbol.com via leafe.com" and one from "The Edge Men Want
> support@laverdaddemonagas.com via leafe.com"
>
> Let me know if I you need more info, I can forward them to you off-list.
I don't need them right now. I had to turn off the filtering for a while to rule out that being the cause, but it is back on, so if you get any more spam from the list, let me know.
-- Ed Leafe
On Sun, May 31, 2026 at 11:15 AM Ed Leafe <ed@leafe.com> wrote:
>
> > I'm not seeing footers on the emails at all.
>
> Hmm... I'm getting two copies: one with footers, and one without. I'll dig
> into that
>
>
I'm on the off-topic-free tech list: "OT-free ProFox <profoxtech.leafe.com>"
On May 31, 2026, at 15:17, Ted Roche <tedroche@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> I'm on the off-topic-free tech list: "OT-free ProFox <profoxtech.leafe.com>"
Ah, that's the clue. I updated profox, but not profoxtech. Let me know if you see a footer on this reply.
-- Ed Leafe
Really Ted? Was it an Attack by Sir Spamalot??? Was that like a Monty
Python character?
-K
On Sun, May 31, 2026 at 4:28 PM Ted Roche <tedroche@gmail.com> wrote:
> That's a lot of spam!
>
> I'm not seeing footers on the emails at all.
>
> Two or three emails did get through the filters, two from "Victoria
> Victoria@sovereignsymbol.com via leafe.com" and one from "The Edge Men
> Want
> support@laverdaddemonagas.com via leafe.com"
>
> Let me know if I you need more info, I can forward them to you off-list.
>
>
> On Sun, May 31, 2026 at 10:52 AM Ed Leafe <ed@leafe.com> wrote:
>
> > NOTE: I had tried posting this yesterday, but the message never got
> > posted. I checked the logs, and it showed that it was received, passed
> spam
> > filtering, and then... nothing. What followed was several hours of
> > debugging with the help of Claude Opus 4.8. I finally tracked down the
> root
> > cause, but had no idea why it started failing now: I hadn't changed
> > anything since the list upgrade back in January. While I was messing
> around
> > I decided to also fix the broken footers, so those should be working.
> >
> > = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = =
> > = = = = = = = = = = =
> >
> > I thought I'd share a little bit of what goes on to host this list (and
> > the Dabo lists).
> >
> > I use rspamd (https://www.rspamd.com/) as my spam filter. I have the
> list
> > software configured to run everything through it before it begins
> > processing any email; those that are flagged as spam are written to a
> file
> > and otherwise ignored.
> >
> > Once a day I have a script running on a cron job that analyzes that file,
> > and sends me a single email summary of the previous day's suspected spam
> > for review. It's rare to find legitimate mail that was incorrectly marked
> > as spam, but it does happen.
> >
> > The script extracts the subjects, senders, and recipients, and sorts them
> > by count, and then alphabetically. It also contains a link I can click to
> > delete the file if there's nothing good in it.
> >
> > This morning's summary was larger than usual. Typically there are a
> couple
> > hundred held spam messages a day, but yesterday the total was 933!
> That's a
> > lot of spam!
> >
> > I was going to include the email summary in this post, but with all those
> > spammy subjects, it wouldn't make it through any of your spam filters,
> so I
> > posted it on my website, with some internal details redacted.
> >
> > https://leafe.com/docs/listspam.html
> >
> >
> > -- Ed Leafe
> >
> >
> >
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Ed:
I now see the footer, and poked at all the links and they all seem to be
working.
Thanks, as always, for keeping ProFox going.
On Sun, May 31, 2026 at 4:32 PM Ed Leafe <ed@leafe.com> wrote:
> On May 31, 2026, at 15:17, Ted Roche <tedroche@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > I'm on the off-topic-free tech list: "OT-free ProFox <
> profoxtech.leafe.com>"
>
> Ah, that's the clue. I updated profox, but not profoxtech. Let me know if
> you see a footer on this reply.
>
>
> -- Ed Leafe
>
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Footer included
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Tarver Program Consultants, Inc.
-----Original Message-----
From: Ed Leafe <ed@leafe.com>
Sent: Sunday, May 31, 2026 3:30 PM
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Subject: Re: [ADMIN] Spam filtering
On May 31, 2026, at 15:17, Ted Roche <tedroche@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> I'm on the off-topic-free tech list: "OT-free ProFox
<profoxtech.leafe.com>"
Ah, that's the clue. I updated profox, but not profoxtech. Let me know if
you see a footer on this reply.
-- Ed Leafe
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