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2022-04-23 10:08Paul Newton : [NF] Those were the days ... ISP charges
2022-04-23 15:03Ted Roche : Re: [NF] Those were the days ... ISP charges
2022-04-23 16:30Carl Lindner : RE: [NF] Those were the days ... ISP charges
2022-04-24 21:55Kurt @ Gmail : Re: [NF] Those were the days ... ISP charges
2022-04-25 03:07Alan Bourke : Re: [NF] Those were the days ... ISP charges
2022-04-25 03:28Christof Wollenhaupt : Re: [NF] Those were the days ... ISP charges
2022-04-25 03:31Christof Wollenhaupt : Re: [NF] Those were the days ... ISP charges
2022-04-25 04:45Paul Newton : Re: [NF] Those were the days ... ISP charges
2022-04-25 04:48Paul Newton : Re: [NF] Those were the days ... ISP charges
2022-04-25 07:29Ted Roche : Re: [NF] Those were the days ... ISP charges
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[NF] Those were the days ... ISP charges

Author: Paul Newton

Posted: 2022-04-23 10:08:55   Link

From an ISP in Kenya ca. 2005

What are the cost implications?

===============================

They are so minimal, you won't believe it! For as little as US$ 200

per month you can get yourself a leased line of 64Kbps uplink and

256Kbps downlink.

Paul Newton

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Re: [NF] Those were the days ... ISP charges

Author: Ted Roche

Posted: 2022-04-23 15:03:26   Link

Who's ever going to need more than 256 Kbps?

Puts my .42bis modem all to shame.

And, at $22.95/hour for CompuServe, this will be a real time saver!

On Sat, Apr 23, 2022 at 11:09 AM Paul Newton <paul.newton.hudl@gmail.com> wrote:

>

> From an ISP in Kenya ca. 2005

>

> What are the cost implications?

> ===============================

>

> They are so minimal, you won't believe it! For as little as US$ 200

> per month you can get yourself a leased line of 64Kbps uplink and

> 256Kbps downlink.

>

> Paul Newton

>

>

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RE: [NF] Those were the days ... ISP charges

Author: Carl Lindner

Posted: 2022-04-23 16:30:23   Link

Not sure if attachments work here. 02/02/98 28.8K Dial-In-Port $125 per

month

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Who's ever going to need more than 256 Kbps?

Puts my .42bis modem all to shame.

And, at $22.95/hour for CompuServe, this will be a real time saver!

On Sat, Apr 23, 2022 at 11:09 AM Paul Newton <paul.newton.hudl@gmail.com>

wrote:

>

> From an ISP in Kenya ca. 2005

>

> What are the cost implications?

> ===============================

>

> They are so minimal, you won't believe it! For as little as US$ 200

> per month you can get yourself a leased line of 64Kbps uplink and

> 256Kbps downlink.

>

> Paul Newton

>

>

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Re: [NF] Those were the days ... ISP charges

Author: Kurt @ Gmail

Posted: 2022-04-24 21:55:08   Link

Was that REALLY the cost for CompuServe? Yikes!

I was there at the beginning - I did CompuServe & Prodigy and even

dabbled in AOL Online briefly - which, years later - all non-computer

literate people used AOL - and I knew to stay away. I did a little bit

of the Early BBS systems. And, I was doing online banking with Chemical

bank via modem & later as Chase Online via true internet (when they

bought over Chemical & MannyHanny) - so, I was doing online banking

before most common folks.

Yeah - the days of Modems - what FUN!!!

Funny side story. Its the reason when I was married - that my wife (now

Ex) - INSISTED I get my own phone line - because I was doing the modem

stuff - and people could not call in!

:-)

Fun times indeed...

-K

On 4/23/2022 1:03 PM, Ted Roche wrote:

> Who's ever going to need more than 256 Kbps?

>

> Puts my .42bis modem all to shame.

>

> And, at $22.95/hour for CompuServe, this will be a real time saver!

>

>

>

> On Sat, Apr 23, 2022 at 11:09 AM Paul Newton <paul.newton.hudl@gmail.com> wrote:

>> From an ISP in Kenya ca. 2005

>>

>> What are the cost implications?

>> ===============================

>>

>> They are so minimal, you won't believe it! For as little as US$ 200

>> per month you can get yourself a leased line of 64Kbps uplink and

>> 256Kbps downlink.

>>

>> Paul Newton

>>

>>

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Re: [NF] Those were the days ... ISP charges

Author: Alan Bourke

Posted: 2022-04-25 03:07:15   Link

On Mon, 25 Apr 2022, at 3:55 AM, Kurt @ Gmail wrote:

> Was that REALLY the cost for CompuServe? Yikes!

In theearly 1980s, in the US, yep. You could download a copy of the 20c print edition of the NYT which would take maybe 5 hours at $5 an hour.

By the time I was using it in the UK in the mid 1990s it was about £10 a month with phone call charges on top.

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Re: [NF] Those were the days ... ISP charges

Author: Christof Wollenhaupt

Posted: 2022-04-25 03:28:34   Link

> Was that REALLY the cost for CompuServe? Yikes!

This is from my bank account statement February 1997. That's the fee for January 1997 just for CompuServe. I also paid Deutsche Telekom by the minute in phone charges on top of that.

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Re: [NF] Those were the days ... ISP charges

Author: Christof Wollenhaupt

Posted: 2022-04-25 03:31:46   Link

>> Was that REALLY the cost for CompuServe? Yikes!

>

> This is from my bank account statement February 1997. That's the fee for January 1997 just for CompuServe. I also paid Deutsche Telekom by the minute in phone charges on top of that.

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991951 11.02 11.02 COMPUSERVE INC. 78,85-

970241007701601

EZV 9001569191

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Re: [NF] Those were the days ... ISP charges

Author: Paul Newton

Posted: 2022-04-25 04:45:34   Link

Yes, that really was the cost but it wasn't for Compuserve, it was for a

local (Kenyan) ISP

On 25/04/2022 03:55, Kurt @ Gmail wrote:

> Was that REALLY the cost for CompuServe? Yikes!

>

> I was there at the beginning - I did CompuServe & Prodigy and even

> dabbled in AOL Online briefly - which, years later - all non-computer

> literate people used AOL - and I knew to stay away. I did a little bit

> of the Early BBS systems. And, I was doing online banking with

> Chemical bank via modem & later as Chase Online via true internet

> (when they bought over Chemical & MannyHanny) - so, I was doing online

> banking before most common folks.

>

> Yeah - the days of Modems - what FUN!!!

>

> Funny side story. Its the reason when I was married - that my wife

> (now Ex) - INSISTED I get my own phone line - because I was doing the

> modem stuff - and people could not call in!

>

> :-)

>

> Fun times indeed...

>

> -K

>

> On 4/23/2022 1:03 PM, Ted Roche wrote:

>> Who's ever going to need more than 256 Kbps?

>>

>> Puts my .42bis modem all to shame.

>>

>> And, at $22.95/hour for CompuServe, this will be a real time saver!

>>

>>

>>

>> On Sat, Apr 23, 2022 at 11:09 AM Paul Newton

>> <paul.newton.hudl@gmail.com> wrote:

>>>   From an ISP in Kenya ca. 2005

>>>

>>> What are the cost implications?

>>> ===============================

>>>

>>> They are so minimal, you won't believe it! For as little as US$ 200

>>> per month you can get yourself a leased line of 64Kbps uplink and

>>> 256Kbps downlink.

>>>

>>> Paul Newton

>>>

>>>

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Re: [NF] Those were the days ... ISP charges

Author: Paul Newton

Posted: 2022-04-25 04:48:58   Link

In Kenya at the time we couldn't reliably get software updates and the

like without the use of something like GetRight (sometimes we had to

resume downloads several times before they completed)

On 25/04/2022 09:07, Alan Bourke wrote:

> On Mon, 25 Apr 2022, at 3:55 AM, Kurt @ Gmail wrote:

>> Was that REALLY the cost for CompuServe? Yikes!

> In theearly 1980s, in the US, yep. You could download a copy of the 20c print edition of the NYT which would take maybe 5 hours at $5 an hour.

>

> By the time I was using it in the UK in the mid 1990s it was about £10 a month with phone call charges on top.

>

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Re: [NF] Those were the days ... ISP charges

Author: Ted Roche

Posted: 2022-04-25 07:29:24   Link

Formed in 1969, CompuServe went through many corporation transitions,

involving companies and people as diverse as H&R Block, Radio Shack,

the Associated Press and Mark Cuban.

Created originally with PDP-8s and PDP-15s as front-end routers as a

means of dial-up interconnection for businesses, they started renting

off-hours access to hobbyists and stuff sort of just grew from there.

Great write-up at https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CompuServe

I used TapCI$ to minimize dial-up time, reading and responding offline

and connecting only long enough to send and receive. 76400,2503 was

the number I used during the FoxForum heyday, but I had used, and

lost, a three-digit number in the way-back-when.

I seem to remember that dial-up access was through one of several

different networks. Some were modem banks in the back

warehouse-storage areas in Sears Roebuck stores.

On Sun, Apr 24, 2022 at 10:55 PM Kurt @ Gmail <kurthwendt@gmail.com> wrote:

>

> Was that REALLY the cost for CompuServe? Yikes!

>

> I was there at the beginning - I did CompuServe & Prodigy and even

> dabbled in AOL Online briefly - which, years later - all non-computer

> literate people used AOL - and I knew to stay away. I did a little bit

> of the Early BBS systems. And, I was doing online banking with Chemical

> bank via modem & later as Chase Online via true internet (when they

> bought over Chemical & MannyHanny) - so, I was doing online banking

> before most common folks.

>

> Yeah - the days of Modems - what FUN!!!

>

> Funny side story. Its the reason when I was married - that my wife (now

> Ex) - INSISTED I get my own phone line - because I was doing the modem

> stuff - and people could not call in!

>

> :-)

>

> Fun times indeed...

>

> -K

>

> On 4/23/2022 1:03 PM, Ted Roche wrote:

> > Who's ever going to need more than 256 Kbps?

> >

> > Puts my .42bis modem all to shame.

> >

> > And, at $22.95/hour for CompuServe, this will be a real time saver!

> >

> >

> >

> > On Sat, Apr 23, 2022 at 11:09 AM Paul Newton <paul.newton.hudl@gmail.com> wrote:

> >> From an ISP in Kenya ca. 2005

> >>

> >> What are the cost implications?

> >> ===============================

> >>

> >> They are so minimal, you won't believe it! For as little as US$ 200

> >> per month you can get yourself a leased line of 64Kbps uplink and

> >> 256Kbps downlink.

> >>

> >> Paul Newton

> >>

> >>

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