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2021-03-21 17:28Paul Newton : [NF] New hardware - network port and HDD
2021-03-21 18:38Tracy Pearson : Re: [NF] New hardware - network port and HDD
2021-03-22 03:48Paul Newton : Re: [NF] New hardware - network port and HDD
2021-03-22 06:20Jürgen Wondzinski : RE: [NF] New hardware - network port and HDD
2021-03-22 06:24Jürgen Wondzinski : AW: [NF] New hardware - network port and HDD
2021-03-22 11:37Paul Newton : Re: [NF] New hardware - network port and HDD
2021-03-22 12:23Alan Bourke : Re: [NF] New hardware - network port and HDD
2021-03-22 13:02Eric Selje : Re: [NF] New hardware - network port and HDD
2021-03-23 06:37Paul Newton : Re: [NF] New hardware - network port and HDD
2021-03-23 06:43Paul Newton : Re: [NF] New hardware - network port and HDD
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[NF] New hardware - network port and HDD

Author: Paul Newton

Posted: 2021-03-21 17:28:09   Link

Hi all

Please note my change of address - as a result of recently being made

redundant. I have recently taken delivery of an HP Omen 17" laptop. I am

used to having an ethernet port which accepts what I would call a standard

Cat5 plug but the port on the new laptop does not accept that plug which is

obviously too big. The manual describes the port as RJ-45 (network) jack.

What would I need in order to connect my Cat5 plug into the RJ-45 socket?

The new laptop has a 512GB SSD and a 1TB HDD. The only info I have about

the 1TB drive is that it is 7200rpm. Can I simply replace it with a 4TB

model running at 5400RPM? The new HDD (WD Red 3.5" Internal Hard Drive)

has a

- SATA III 6 Gb/s interface. Would I need to check that for

compatibility?

Many thanks

Paul Newton

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Re: [NF] New hardware - network port and HDD

Author: Tracy Pearson

Posted: 2021-03-21 18:38:47   Link

Hi Paul,

Some laptops RJ-45 ports have a piece that drops down. This part is where the tab on the cable catches.

SATA drives are backwards compatible. SATA ports are also backwards compatible. They just won't be as fast.

How that helps,

Tracy

On March 21, 2021 6:28:09 PM EDT, Paul Newton <paul.newton.hudl@gmail.com> wrote:

>Hi all

>

>Please note my change of address - as a result of recently being made

>redundant. I have recently taken delivery of an HP Omen 17" laptop. I

>am

>used to having an ethernet port which accepts what I would call a

>standard

>Cat5 plug but the port on the new laptop does not accept that plug

>which is

>obviously too big. The manual describes the port as RJ-45 (network)

>jack.

>What would I need in order to connect my Cat5 plug into the RJ-45

>socket?

>

>The new laptop has a 512GB SSD and a 1TB HDD. The only info I have

>about

>the 1TB drive is that it is 7200rpm. Can I simply replace it with a

>4TB

>model running at 5400RPM? The new HDD (WD Red 3.5" Internal Hard

>Drive)

>has a

>

> - SATA III 6 Gb/s interface. Would I need to check that for

> compatibility?

>

>Many thanks

>

>Paul Newton

>

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Re: [NF] New hardware - network port and HDD

Author: Paul Newton

Posted: 2021-03-22 03:48:48   Link

Thanks Tracy - got it connected after a bit of jiggling around. Is it

likely that the laptop will accept a 15mm HDD (as opposed to the newer 7mm

profile)?

Paul

On Sun, 21 Mar 2021 at 23:39, Tracy Pearson <tracy@powerchurch.com> wrote:

> Hi Paul,

>

> Some laptops RJ-45 ports have a piece that drops down. This part is where

> the tab on the cable catches.

>

> SATA drives are backwards compatible. SATA ports are also backwards

> compatible. They just won't be as fast.

>

> How that helps,

> Tracy

>

> On March 21, 2021 6:28:09 PM EDT, Paul Newton <paul.newton.hudl@gmail.com>

> wrote:

> >Hi all

> >

> >Please note my change of address - as a result of recently being made

> >redundant. I have recently taken delivery of an HP Omen 17" laptop. I

> >am

> >used to having an ethernet port which accepts what I would call a

> >standard

> >Cat5 plug but the port on the new laptop does not accept that plug

> >which is

> >obviously too big. The manual describes the port as RJ-45 (network)

> >jack.

> >What would I need in order to connect my Cat5 plug into the RJ-45

> >socket?

> >

> >The new laptop has a 512GB SSD and a 1TB HDD. The only info I have

> >about

> >the 1TB drive is that it is 7200rpm. Can I simply replace it with a

> >4TB

> >model running at 5400RPM? The new HDD (WD Red 3.5" Internal Hard

> >Drive)

> >has a

> >

> > - SATA III 6 Gb/s interface. Would I need to check that for

> > compatibility?

> >

> >Many thanks

> >

> >Paul Newton

> >

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RE: [NF] New hardware - network port and HDD

Author: Jürgen Wondzinski

Posted: 2021-03-22 06:20:28   Link

>> Is it likely that the laptop will accept a 15mm HDD <<

I wouldn't expect that. Since you have a folded network-connector, me thinks that your laptop is very thin. Thus a 15mm HD would not fit. Those thick HDs are normally for Server usage. Just screw around 😊 and look for the HD enclosure.

Also I wouldn't go with a mechanical HD in a Laptop anymore. Samsung has already 1, 2 and 4 TB SSDs. Ok, pricing for that 4Tb is a little bit steep (about 400-500 $), but if you need that much space....

wOOdy

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Thanks Tracy - got it connected after a bit of jiggling around. Is it likely that the laptop will accept a 15mm HDD (as opposed to the newer 7mm profile)?

Paul

On Sun, 21 Mar 2021 at 23:39, Tracy Pearson <tracy@powerchurch.com> wrote:

> Hi Paul,

>

> Some laptops RJ-45 ports have a piece that drops down. This part is

> where the tab on the cable catches.

>

> SATA drives are backwards compatible. SATA ports are also backwards

> compatible. They just won't be as fast.

>

> How that helps,

> Tracy

>

> On March 21, 2021 6:28:09 PM EDT, Paul Newton

> <paul.newton.hudl@gmail.com>

> wrote:

> >Hi all

> >

> >Please note my change of address - as a result of recently being made

> >redundant. I have recently taken delivery of an HP Omen 17" laptop.

> >I am used to having an ethernet port which accepts what I would call

> >a standard

> >Cat5 plug but the port on the new laptop does not accept that plug

> >which is obviously too big. The manual describes the port as RJ-45

> >(network) jack.

> >What would I need in order to connect my Cat5 plug into the RJ-45

> >socket?

> >

> >The new laptop has a 512GB SSD and a 1TB HDD. The only info I have

> >about the 1TB drive is that it is 7200rpm. Can I simply replace it

> >with a 4TB model running at 5400RPM? The new HDD (WD Red 3.5"

> >Internal Hard

> >Drive)

> >has a

> >

> > - SATA III 6 Gb/s interface. Would I need to check that for

> > compatibility?

> >

> >Many thanks

> >

> >Paul Newton

> >

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AW: [NF] New hardware - network port and HDD

Author: Jürgen Wondzinski

Posted: 2021-03-22 06:24:42   Link

Another gotcha:

>> The new HDD (WD Red 3.5" Internal Hard Drive) has a <<

You will definitely not get a 3.5" platter into your laptop. Laptops have

2.5" or 1.8" cages.

wOOdy

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Hi all

Please note my change of address - as a result of recently being made

redundant. I have recently taken delivery of an HP Omen 17" laptop. I am

used to having an ethernet port which accepts what I would call a standard

Cat5 plug but the port on the new laptop does not accept that plug which is

obviously too big. The manual describes the port as RJ-45 (network) jack.

What would I need in order to connect my Cat5 plug into the RJ-45 socket?

The new laptop has a 512GB SSD and a 1TB HDD. The only info I have about

the 1TB drive is that it is 7200rpm. Can I simply replace it with a 4TB

model running at 5400RPM? The new HDD (WD Red 3.5" Internal Hard Drive) has

a

- SATA III 6 Gb/s interface. Would I need to check that for

compatibility?

Many thanks

Paul Newton

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Re: [NF] New hardware - network port and HDD

Author: Paul Newton

Posted: 2021-03-22 11:37:26   Link

I realised that after I posted - it was meant to be the 2.5" drive.

However further research shows that the laptop requires a 7mm drive and

will not accept the 15mm drive. Have to start looking again ...

Thanks wOOdy

Paul Newton

On Mon, 22 Mar 2021 at 11:25, Jürgen Wondzinski <juergen@wondzinski.de>

wrote:

> Another gotcha:

> >> The new HDD (WD Red 3.5" Internal Hard Drive) has a <<

>

> You will definitely not get a 3.5" platter into your laptop. Laptops have

> 2.5" or 1.8" cages.

>

> wOOdy

>

>

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> Betreff: [NF] New hardware - network port and HDD

>

> Hi all

>

> Please note my change of address - as a result of recently being made

> redundant. I have recently taken delivery of an HP Omen 17" laptop. I am

> used to having an ethernet port which accepts what I would call a standard

> Cat5 plug but the port on the new laptop does not accept that plug which is

> obviously too big. The manual describes the port as RJ-45 (network) jack.

> What would I need in order to connect my Cat5 plug into the RJ-45 socket?

>

> The new laptop has a 512GB SSD and a 1TB HDD. The only info I have about

> the 1TB drive is that it is 7200rpm. Can I simply replace it with a 4TB

> model running at 5400RPM? The new HDD (WD Red 3.5" Internal Hard Drive)

> has

> a

>

> - SATA III 6 Gb/s interface. Would I need to check that for

> compatibility?

>

> Many thanks

>

> Paul Newton

>

>

>

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Re: [NF] New hardware - network port and HDD

Author: Alan Bourke

Posted: 2021-03-22 12:23:48   Link

Paul

Stick the model in here and it should give you some options.

https://eu.crucial.com/store/advisor

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Re: [NF] New hardware - network port and HDD

Author: Eric Selje

Posted: 2021-03-22 13:02:48   Link

I've got a planer. We can try to get that 15mm down to a 7mm.

Eric

On Mon, Mar 22, 2021 at 11:37 AM Paul Newton <paul.newton.hudl@gmail.com>

wrote:

> I realised that after I posted - it was meant to be the 2.5" drive.

> However further research shows that the laptop requires a 7mm drive and

> will not accept the 15mm drive. Have to start looking again ...

>

> Thanks wOOdy

>

> Paul Newton

>

> On Mon, 22 Mar 2021 at 11:25, Jürgen Wondzinski <juergen@wondzinski.de>

> wrote:

>

> > Another gotcha:

> > >> The new HDD (WD Red 3.5" Internal Hard Drive) has a <<

> >

> > You will definitely not get a 3.5" platter into your laptop. Laptops have

> > 2.5" or 1.8" cages.

> >

> > wOOdy

> >

> >

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> >

> > Hi all

> >

> > Please note my change of address - as a result of recently being made

> > redundant. I have recently taken delivery of an HP Omen 17" laptop. I

> am

> > used to having an ethernet port which accepts what I would call a

> standard

> > Cat5 plug but the port on the new laptop does not accept that plug which

> is

> > obviously too big. The manual describes the port as RJ-45 (network)

> jack.

> > What would I need in order to connect my Cat5 plug into the RJ-45 socket?

> >

> > The new laptop has a 512GB SSD and a 1TB HDD. The only info I have about

> > the 1TB drive is that it is 7200rpm. Can I simply replace it with a 4TB

> > model running at 5400RPM? The new HDD (WD Red 3.5" Internal Hard Drive)

> > has

> > a

> >

> > - SATA III 6 Gb/s interface. Would I need to check that for

> > compatibility?

> >

> > Many thanks

> >

> > Paul Newton

> >

> >

> >

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Re: [NF] New hardware - network port and HDD

Author: Paul Newton

Posted: 2021-03-23 06:37:46   Link

Thanks Alan but that is for RAM and SSD, not HDD

Paul

On Mon, 22 Mar 2021 at 17:24, Alan Bourke <alanpbourke@fastmail.fm> wrote:

> Paul

>

> Stick the model in here and it should give you some options.

>

> https://eu.crucial.com/store/advisor

>

>

>

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Re: [NF] New hardware - network port and HDD

Author: Paul Newton

Posted: 2021-03-23 06:43:26   Link

Thanks for the offer. More seriously I don't believe there are any 7mm 4TB

drives out there - if anybody thinks or knows otherwise, please let me know.

Paul

On Mon, 22 Mar 2021 at 18:03, Eric Selje <Eric@saltydogllc.com> wrote:

> I've got a planer. We can try to get that 15mm down to a 7mm.

>

> Eric

>

> On Mon, Mar 22, 2021 at 11:37 AM Paul Newton <paul.newton.hudl@gmail.com>

> wrote:

>

> > I realised that after I posted - it was meant to be the 2.5" drive.

> > However further research shows that the laptop requires a 7mm drive and

> > will not accept the 15mm drive. Have to start looking again ...

> >

> > Thanks wOOdy

> >

> > Paul Newton

> >

> > On Mon, 22 Mar 2021 at 11:25, Jürgen Wondzinski <juergen@wondzinski.de>

> > wrote:

> >

> > > Another gotcha:

> > > >> The new HDD (WD Red 3.5" Internal Hard Drive) has a <<

> > >

> > > You will definitely not get a 3.5" platter into your laptop. Laptops

> have

> > > 2.5" or 1.8" cages.

> > >

> > > wOOdy

> > >

> > >

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> > > Betreff: [NF] New hardware - network port and HDD

> > >

> > > Hi all

> > >

> > > Please note my change of address - as a result of recently being made

> > > redundant. I have recently taken delivery of an HP Omen 17" laptop. I

> > am

> > > used to having an ethernet port which accepts what I would call a

> > standard

> > > Cat5 plug but the port on the new laptop does not accept that plug

> which

> > is

> > > obviously too big. The manual describes the port as RJ-45 (network)

> > jack.

> > > What would I need in order to connect my Cat5 plug into the RJ-45

> socket?

> > >

> > > The new laptop has a 512GB SSD and a 1TB HDD. The only info I have

> about

> > > the 1TB drive is that it is 7200rpm. Can I simply replace it with a

> 4TB

> > > model running at 5400RPM? The new HDD (WD Red 3.5" Internal Hard

> Drive)

> > > has

> > > a

> > >

> > > - SATA III 6 Gb/s interface. Would I need to check that for

> > > compatibility?

> > >

> > > Many thanks

> > >

> > > Paul Newton

> > >

> > >

> > >

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