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2017-09-01 10:56mbsoftwaresolutions@mbsoftwaresolutions.com: RE: [NF] Re: [FW] Programming language life expectancy
2017-09-01 12:04Laurie Alvey : Re: [NF] Re: [FW] Programming language life expectancy
2017-09-01 12:11Jean MAURICE : Re: [NF] Re: [FW] Programming language life expectancy
2017-09-01 12:44Ted Roche : Re: [NF] Re: [FW] Programming language life expectancy
2017-09-01 13:44Laurie Alvey : Re: [NF] Re: [FW] Programming language life expectancy
2017-09-01 14:23Jean MAURICE : Re: [NF] Re: [FW] Programming language life expectancy
2017-09-01 17:02John Weller : Re: [NF] Re: [FW] Programming language life expectancy
2017-09-01 17:59Vince Teachout : Re: [NF] Re: [FW] Programming language life expectancy
2017-09-01 18:13Fred Taylor : Re: [NF] Re: [FW] Programming language life expectancy
2017-09-01 20:37mbsoftwaresolutions@mbsoftwaresolutions.com: Re: [NF] Re: [FW] Programming language life expectancy
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RE: [NF] Re: [FW] Programming language life expectancy

Author: mbsoftwaresolutions@mbsoftwaresolutions.com

Posted: 2017-09-01 10:56:00   Link

On 2017-09-01 03:31, Dave Crozier wrote:

> Brilliant ingenuity!

>

> I started on Fortran, Algol 60 and COBOL but only liked Algol and went

> on to love Pascal obviously.

Loved loved loved Pascal way back in the late 80s/early 90s. I think

somebody said that Delphi is today's Pascal?

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Re: [NF] Re: [FW] Programming language life expectancy

Author: Laurie Alvey

Posted: 2017-09-01 12:04:47   Link

Didn't everyone at least dabble with BASIC? I started out with a Commodore

VIC20 which (I believe), had 3.2 kB of RAM.

Laurie

On 1 September 2017 at 16:56, <mbsoftwaresolutions@mbsoftwaresolutions.com>

wrote:

> On 2017-09-01 03:31, Dave Crozier wrote:

>

>> Brilliant ingenuity!

>>

>> I started on Fortran, Algol 60 and COBOL but only liked Algol and went

>> on to love Pascal obviously.

>>

>

>

> Loved loved loved Pascal way back in the late 80s/early 90s. I think

> somebody said that Delphi is today's Pascal?

>

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Re: [NF] Re: [FW] Programming language life expectancy

Author: Jean MAURICE

Posted: 2017-09-01 12:11:42   Link

Hi Laurie,

I had a Vic20 and I think it was the first microcomputer to have 64koctets of

memory. It was based on a 6502 microprocessor. I spent a lot of nights with it

.... before meeting my future wife !

The Foxil

Le 01/09/2017 19:04, Laurie Alvey a écrit :

> Didn't everyone at least dabble with BASIC? I started out with a Commodore

> VIC20 which (I believe), had 3.2 kB of RAM.

>

> Laurie

>

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Re: [NF] Re: [FW] Programming language life expectancy

Author: Ted Roche

Posted: 2017-09-01 12:44:54   Link

"The VIC-20 had 5 KB of RAM, of which only 3.5 KB remained available

on startup (exactly 3583 bytes)."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Commodore_VIC-20

On Fri, Sep 1, 2017 at 1:04 PM, Laurie Alvey <trukker41@gmail.com> wrote:

> Didn't everyone at least dabble with BASIC? I started out with a Commodore

> VIC20 which (I believe), had 3.2 kB of RAM.

>

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Re: [NF] Re: [FW] Programming language life expectancy

Author: Laurie Alvey

Posted: 2017-09-01 13:44:06   Link

Yeah, the one "with the enormous memory" was the Commodore 64 (64K)!

Laurie

On 1 September 2017 at 18:44, Ted Roche <tedroche@gmail.com> wrote:

> "The VIC-20 had 5 KB of RAM, of which only 3.5 KB remained available

> on startup (exactly 3583 bytes)."

>

> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Commodore_VIC-20

>

> On Fri, Sep 1, 2017 at 1:04 PM, Laurie Alvey <trukker41@gmail.com> wrote:

> > Didn't everyone at least dabble with BASIC? I started out with a

> Commodore

> > VIC20 which (I believe), had 3.2 kB of RAM.

> >

>

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Re: [NF] Re: [FW] Programming language life expectancy

Author: Jean MAURICE

Posted: 2017-09-01 14:23:33   Link

So, I think I am beginning with Alzheimer !

The Foxil

Le 01/09/2017 20:44, Laurie Alvey a écrit :

> Yeah, the one "with the enormous memory" was the Commodore 64 (64K)!

>

> Laurie

>

> On 1 September 2017 at 18:44, Ted Roche <tedroche@gmail.com> wrote:

>

>> "The VIC-20 had 5 KB of RAM, of which only 3.5 KB remained available

>> on startup (exactly 3583 bytes)."

>>

>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Commodore_VIC-20

>>

>> On Fri, Sep 1, 2017 at 1:04 PM, Laurie Alvey <trukker41@gmail.com> wrote:

>>> Didn't everyone at least dabble with BASIC? I started out with a

>> Commodore

>>> VIC20 which (I believe), had 3.2 kB of RAM.

>>>

>

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Re: [NF] Re: [FW] Programming language life expectancy

Author: John Weller

Posted: 2017-09-01 17:02:46   Link

I first learned to program in a very primitive form of BASIC on an Elliott 4130. The first 'real' program was to analyse the data from a flight trial and became quite convoluted. Unfortunately the system didn't have a renumber option and could only print the code in the order it was entered rather than numerical order. I found it very difficult to debug and ended up by cutting a printout into individual lines then pasting them on to a blank sheet in the correct sequence. Fortunately soon after it was replaced by a DEC20 with an Algol compiler; I taught myself Algol in awe and wonder at its power and never looked back :-)

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Re: [NF] Re: [FW] Programming language life expectancy

Author: Vince Teachout

Posted: 2017-09-01 17:59:34   Link

TI-994A. Unpacked it at 2:00 in the afternoon, started playing with

BASIC, and a few minutes later realized it was 3:30 AM.

On 9/1/2017 1:04 PM, Laurie Alvey wrote:

> Didn't everyone at least dabble with BASIC? I started out with a Commodore

> VIC20 which (I believe), had 3.2 kB of RAM.

>

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Re: [NF] Re: [FW] Programming language life expectancy

Author: Fred Taylor

Posted: 2017-09-01 18:13:50   Link

Been there, done that with a TRS-80 Model 1. Several times.

Fred

On Fri, Sep 1, 2017 at 3:59 PM, Vince Teachout <teachv@taconic.net> wrote:

> TI-994A. Unpacked it at 2:00 in the afternoon, started playing with

> BASIC, and a few minutes later realized it was 3:30 AM.

>

>

> On 9/1/2017 1:04 PM, Laurie Alvey wrote:

>

>> Didn't everyone at least dabble with BASIC? I started out with a Commodore

>> VIC20 which (I believe), had 3.2 kB of RAM.

>>

>

>

>>

>

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Re: [NF] Re: [FW] Programming language life expectancy

Author: mbsoftwaresolutions@mbsoftwaresolutions.com

Posted: 2017-09-01 20:37:47   Link

On 2017-09-01 13:04, Laurie Alvey wrote:

> Didn't everyone at least dabble with BASIC? I started out with a

> Commodore

> VIC20 which (I believe), had 3.2 kB of RAM.

Oh yes. My first was GW-BASIC on our AT&T home computer.

10 PRINT "Hello"

20 GOTO 10

:-)

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