Author: Jean MAURICE
Posted: 2017-08-31 09:39:09 Link
These last few days, I am smiling when I read Profox : I thought I was the only
'Foxil' still working with Foxpro DOS (I have an app working on a Compaq PC that
is 23 years old !) and I am an 'expert' of FORTRAN : when I was in university it
was one the few languages available (with COBOL and a little later C).
I still work with FORTRAN : one of my client is EDF (French national Electricity
Delivery). They where building simulations with 'R' (A new language easy to use
but .... slow). As a test, I translate one of them to FORTRAN : running time
went from 20 minutes to less than 3 seconds (on a multicore machine with FORTRAN
MPI). Since then, I translate a lot and they began to build large simulations
(one hour of FORTRAN !).
I have two drawbacks :
- I can't 'teach' the new scientists that working with integer is a lot
quicker than working with real numbers
- the FORTRAN exe run in a 'dos window' within Windows XP and I have no
access to the energy saver parameters. So, after 15 minutes, the PC goes to
stand by mode because Windows is not able to detect that a 'DOS' exe is running.
So I bought a 'rotating fan', fixed the mouse on it so it moves continously
right and left and ... windows stay 'alive' !!
The Foxil
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Author: Dave Crozier
Posted: 2017-09-01 02:31:37 Link
Brilliant ingenuity!
I started on Fortran, Algol 60 and COBOL but only liked Algol and went on to love Pascal obviously.
All our previous work with older products and technologies does put us in a much better situation to analyse and overcome deficiencies in newer software... specifically the memory hungry ones around at present.
Dave
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From: ProFox [mailto:profox-bounces@leafe.com] On Behalf Of Jean MAURICE
Sent: 31 August 2017 15:39
To: profox@leafe.com
Subject: [OT] Re: [FW] Programming language life expectancy
These last few days, I am smiling when I read Profox : I thought I was the only 'Foxil' still working with Foxpro DOS (I have an app working on a Compaq PC that is 23 years old !) and I am an 'expert' of FORTRAN : when I was in university it was one the few languages available (with COBOL and a little later C).
I still work with FORTRAN : one of my client is EDF (French national Electricity Delivery). They where building simulations with 'R' (A new language easy to use but .... slow). As a test, I translate one of them to FORTRAN : running time went from 20 minutes to less than 3 seconds (on a multicore machine with FORTRAN MPI). Since then, I translate a lot and they began to build large simulations (one hour of FORTRAN !).
I have two drawbacks :
- I can't 'teach' the new scientists that working with integer is a lot quicker than working with real numbers
- the FORTRAN exe run in a 'dos window' within Windows XP and I have no access to the energy saver parameters. So, after 15 minutes, the PC goes to stand by mode because Windows is not able to detect that a 'DOS' exe is running.
So I bought a 'rotating fan', fixed the mouse on it so it moves continously right and left and ... windows stay 'alive' !!
The Foxil
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Author: Jerry Wolper
Posted: 2017-09-02 00:31:06 Link
> the FORTRAN exe run in a 'dos window' within Windows XP and I have no
> access to the energy saver parameters. So, after 15 minutes, the PC goes
to
> stand by mode because Windows is not able to detect that a 'DOS' exe is
running.
> So I bought a 'rotating fan', fixed the mouse on it so it moves
continously
> right and left and ... windows stay 'alive' !!
That's impressive, Jean.
-Jerry
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Author: Gene Wirchenko
Posted: 2017-09-03 15:14:46 Link
At 07:39 2017-08-31, Jean MAURICE <jsm.maurice@wanadoo.fr> wrote:
>These last few days, I am smiling when I read Profox : I thought I
>was the only 'Foxil' still working with Foxpro DOS (I have an app
>working on a Compaq PC that is 23 years old !) and I am an 'expert'
>of FORTRAN : when I was in university it was one the few languages
>available (with COBOL and a little later C).
My app is 20. She is a sweet young VFP thing. Is your app single?
>I still work with FORTRAN : one of my client is EDF (French national
>Electricity Delivery). They where building simulations with 'R' (A
>new language easy to use but .... slow). As a test, I translate one
>of them to FORTRAN : running time went from 20 minutes to less than
>3 seconds (on a multicore machine with FORTRAN MPI). Since then, I
>translate a lot and they began to build large simulations (one hour
>of FORTRAN !).
>
>I have two drawbacks :
> - I can't 'teach' the new scientists that working with integer is
> a lot quicker than working with real numbers
I have seen that. Too little of computing internals were
taught in my degree.
> - the FORTRAN exe run in a 'dos window' within Windows XP and I
> have no access to the energy saver parameters. So, after 15
> minutes, the PC goes to stand by mode because Windows is not able
> to detect that a 'DOS' exe is running. So I bought a 'rotating
> fan', fixed the mouse on it so it moves continously right and left
> and ... windows stay 'alive' !!
Going to stand-by is a solution that has become a problem.
Sincerely,
Gene Wirchenko
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Author: Michael Madigan
Posted: 2017-09-09 21:10:16 Link
There are keep-alive programs to achieve this.
https://movemouse.codeplex.com/
From: Jean MAURICE <jsm.maurice@wanadoo.fr>
To: profox@leafe.com
Sent: Thursday, August 31, 2017 10:39 AM
Subject: [OT] Re: [FW] Programming language life expectancy
These last few days, I am smiling when I read Profox : I thought I was the only
'Foxil' still working with Foxpro DOS (I have an app working on a Compaq PC that
is 23 years old !) and I am an 'expert' of FORTRAN : when I was in university it
was one the few languages available (with COBOL and a little later C).
I still work with FORTRAN : one of my client is EDF (French national Electricity
Delivery). They where building simulations with 'R' (A new language easy to use
but .... slow). As a test, I translate one of them to FORTRAN : running time
went from 20 minutes to less than 3 seconds (on a multicore machine with FORTRAN
MPI). Since then, I translate a lot and they began to build large simulations
(one hour of FORTRAN !).
I have two drawbacks :
- I can't 'teach' the new scientists that working with integer is a lot
quicker than working with real numbers
- the FORTRAN exe run in a 'dos window' within Windows XP and I have no
access to the energy saver parameters. So, after 15 minutes, the PC goes to
stand by mode because Windows is not able to detect that a 'DOS' exe is running.
So I bought a 'rotating fan', fixed the mouse on it so it moves continously
right and left and ... windows stay 'alive' !!
The Foxil
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