Author: mbsoftwaresolutions@mbsoftwaresolutions.com
Posted: 2017-05-28 00:03:26 Link
I'm getting ready to do some Python learning on PluralSight.com and the
dude mentioned PyQT for desktop applications.
Ed & Paul (and others) -- your thoughts on that? Was interested in your
take since you did Dabo for desktop applications with Python.
Thanks!
--Mike
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Author: mbsoftwaresolutions@mbsoftwaresolutions.com
Posted: 2017-05-29 07:50:51 Link
(Re-sending....)
I'm getting ready to do some Python learning on PluralSight.com and the
dude mentioned PyQT for desktop applications.
Ed & Paul (and others) -- your thoughts on that? Was interested in your
take since you did Dabo for desktop applications with Python.
Thanks!
--Mike
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PyQT has 2 different licensing models which may complicate your decision
to go this route. PyQT has a fat distribution as well.
Other options for Python desktop apps are wxPython (Dabo's choice) and
Tkinter/ttk. While Tkinter/ttk often gets a bum rap, I've seen some cool
apps built with this GUI framework. While the Tkinter/ttk is definitely
a contrarian route, its advantages are that its a lightweight
distribution that ships out of the box with most Python distributions,
its cross platform (Windows, Mac, Linux), it supports both Python 2 and
3 ... and contrary to the press it receives, the ttk side has
surprisingly modern widgets. Check out this great tutorial to see more:
http://www.tkdocs.com/tutorial/index.html. Bryan Oakley on Stackoverflow
has some great tips as well. BTW: Python's default IDE (Idle) is built
entirely on tkinter and while its not pretty, the full source code to
this app ships with the Python distribution as well.
In 2017, how many users are looking for desktop apps? If you're going
the Python route, why not check out some of the great Python web
frameworks like Django, Flask, or Bottle?
Welcome to the dark side!
Malcolm
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> In 2017, how many users are looking for desktop apps?
Still plenty.
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On Tue, May 30, 2017 at 3:07 AM, Alan Bourke <alanpbourke@fastmail.fm>
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> > In 2017, how many users are looking for desktop apps?
>
> Still plenty.
>
>
Seriously?
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On May 29, 2017, at 7:50 AM, mbsoftwaresolutions@mbsoftwaresolutions.com wrote:
>
> I'm getting ready to do some Python learning on PluralSight.com <http://pluralsight.com/> and the dude mentioned PyQT for desktop applications.
>
> Ed & Paul (and others) -- your thoughts on that? Was interested in your take since you did Dabo for desktop applications with Python.
When we created Dabo way way back in 2004 (!) Qt was only available under a commercial license, so while it looked nice, we passed on it in favor of wxPython. Since then they have released a “free” version that while you don’t pay to use it in some circumstances, it doesn’t come with an open license. I haven’t played around with it very much, so I don’t have an opinion on how working with it would be.
And yeah, it is 2017 now, and most of the demand I see is not only for web-based apps, but also mobile-aware web apps. I’m sure that there are people who still want desktop apps, but then again, there are still people running Windows XP.
-- Ed Leafe
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On Tue, 30 May 2017, at 12:05 PM, Stephen Russell wrote:
> On Tue, May 30, 2017 at 3:07 AM, Alan Bourke <alanpbourke@fastmail.fm>
> wrote:
>
> > > In 2017, how many users are looking for desktop apps?
> >
> > Still plenty.
> >
> >
> Seriously?
>
>
Seriously. Anything that needs any sort of meaningful interaction with a
local file system or devices, or a rich UI for example.
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On Tue, May 30, 2017 at 9:55 AM, Alan Bourke <alanpbourke@fastmail.fm>
wrote:
>
> On Tue, 30 May 2017, at 12:05 PM, Stephen Russell wrote:
> > On Tue, May 30, 2017 at 3:07 AM, Alan Bourke <alanpbourke@fastmail.fm>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > > In 2017, how many users are looking for desktop apps?
> > >
> > > Still plenty.
> > >
> > >
> > Seriously?
> >
> >
>
> Seriously. Anything that needs any sort of meaningful interaction with a
> local file system or devices, or a rich UI for example.
>
>
I think that you are dreaming or have not exposed your network properly to
fulfill your needs of what to do with a "system."
have worked with Document Management systems that acted on and then moved
files because they were in a specific folder. That location also enacted a
special set of rules for those documents.
Printers? We have 300-400 printers on our network that all receive correct
documents because the direction is not a part of the report but of the
application that made the output.
UI? Using css, jquery, as well as a host of other javascript frameworks UI
is a look and feel that you pick and it is applied, <div> is your friend
when you reference the class or Id.
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Desktop or web app, whichever, when your only tool is a hammer, everything
looks like a nail,
Fred
On Tue, May 30, 2017 at 8:44 AM, Stephen Russell <srussell705@gmail.com>
wrote:
> On Tue, May 30, 2017 at 9:55 AM, Alan Bourke <alanpbourke@fastmail.fm>
> wrote:
>
> >
> > On Tue, 30 May 2017, at 12:05 PM, Stephen Russell wrote:
> > > On Tue, May 30, 2017 at 3:07 AM, Alan Bourke <alanpbourke@fastmail.fm>
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > > > In 2017, how many users are looking for desktop apps?
> > > >
> > > > Still plenty.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > Seriously?
> > >
> > >
> >
> > Seriously. Anything that needs any sort of meaningful interaction with a
> > local file system or devices, or a rich UI for example.
> >
> >
> I think that you are dreaming or have not exposed your network properly to
> fulfill your needs of what to do with a "system."
>
> have worked with Document Management systems that acted on and then moved
> files because they were in a specific folder. That location also enacted a
> special set of rules for those documents.
>
> Printers? We have 300-400 printers on our network that all receive correct
> documents because the direction is not a part of the report but of the
> application that made the output.
>
> UI? Using css, jquery, as well as a host of other javascript frameworks UI
> is a look and feel that you pick and it is applied, <div> is your friend
> when you reference the class or Id.
>
> --
> Stephen Russell
> Sr. Analyst
> Ring Container Technology
> Oakland TN
>
> 901.246-0159 cell
>
>
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Author: mbsoftwaresolutions@mbsoftwaresolutions.com
Posted: 2017-05-30 11:25:38 Link
On 2017-05-30 08:51, Edward Leafe wrote:
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> And yeah, it is 2017 now, and most of the demand I see is not only for
> web-based apps, but also mobile-aware web apps. I’m sure that there
> are people who still want desktop apps, but then again, there are
> still people running Windows XP.
Yes, it seems like everybody wants web apps...and honestly, it seems
like sometimes for intracompany items, a web app isn't needed but still,
that's what they want. That said, in 2017, I think you could still
argue that a more productive UI could be built for a desktop app, "but
that's not cool."
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