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2017-02-13 14:13mbsoftwaresolutions@mbsoftwaresolutions.com: So what tech do you like to work in nowadays? (was Re: TaskPane entry for ProFox outdated)
2017-02-13 14:33Stephen Russell : Re: So what tech do you like to work in nowadays? (was Re: TaskPane entry for ProFox outdated)
2017-02-13 23:12Ed Leafe : Re: So what tech do you like to work in nowadays? (was Re: TaskPane entry for ProFox outdated)
2017-02-14 02:22Alan Bourke : Re: So what tech do you like to work in nowadays? (was Re: TaskPane entry for ProFox outdated)
2017-02-14 03:08John Weller : RE: So what tech do you like to work in nowadays? (was Re: TaskPane entry for ProFox outdated)
2017-02-14 03:35Alan Bourke : Re: So what tech do you like to work in nowadays? (was Re: TaskPane entry for ProFox outdated)
2017-02-14 08:14Kevin J Cully : RE: So what tech do you like to work in nowadays? (was Re: TaskPane entry for ProFox outdated)
2017-02-14 08:53Alan Bourke : Re: So what tech do you like to work in nowadays? (was Re: TaskPane entry for ProFox outdated)
2017-02-14 09:00Dave Crozier : RE: So what tech do you like to work in nowadays? (was Re: TaskPane entry for ProFox outdated)
2017-02-14 09:50Kurt Wendt : RE: So what tech do you like to work in nowadays? (was Re: TaskPane entry for ProFox outdated)
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So what tech do you like to work in nowadays? (was Re: TaskPane entry for ProFox outdated)

Author: mbsoftwaresolutions@mbsoftwaresolutions.com

Posted: 2017-02-13 14:13:47   Link

On 2017-02-10 11:52, Ed Leafe wrote:

> I haven't touched VFP since early 2008. I don't even own a copy of it

> anymore.

Ed (and others),

What tech do you find yourself enjoying nowadays? I don't just mean

doing it for a paycheck, but something that you REALLY like, akin to the

golden days when you were loving the Fox.

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Re: So what tech do you like to work in nowadays? (was Re: TaskPane entry for ProFox outdated)

Author: Stephen Russell

Posted: 2017-02-13 14:33:47   Link

T-SQL and SharePoint nowadays for outside of our ERP system. InFor, our

ERP vendor, has made a complex tool know as ION that is a listener on top

of the system/data that will pick up every type of transaction and allow

you to workflow it if necessary. Every year we route more functionality

through it. Our initial use was to replace hundreds of GL workbooks that

were created every month for sophisticated GL analysis. Last year we put

in a maintenance package to deal with parts for all of our plants, EDI, and

we just activated a logistics system as well.

On Mon, Feb 13, 2017 at 2:13 PM, <

mbsoftwaresolutions@mbsoftwaresolutions.com> wrote:

> On 2017-02-10 11:52, Ed Leafe wrote:

>

>> I haven't touched VFP since early 2008. I don't even own a copy of it

>> anymore.

>>

>

>

> Ed (and others),

>

> What tech do you find yourself enjoying nowadays? I don't just mean doing

> it for a paycheck, but something that you REALLY like, akin to the golden

> days when you were loving the Fox.

>

>

>

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Re: So what tech do you like to work in nowadays? (was Re: TaskPane entry for ProFox outdated)

Author: Ed Leafe

Posted: 2017-02-13 23:12:22   Link

On Feb 13, 2017, at 2:13 PM, mbsoftwaresolutions@mbsoftwaresolutions.com

> What tech do you find yourself enjoying nowadays? I don't just mean doing it for a paycheck, but something that you REALLY like, akin to the golden days when you were loving the Fox.

I still love working in Python, even when it's not for my day job. I also love fooling around with containers and related things, but so far it's just a curiosity thing.

-- Ed Leafe

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Re: So what tech do you like to work in nowadays? (was Re: TaskPane entry for ProFox outdated)

Author: Alan Bourke

Posted: 2017-02-14 02:22:03   Link

I recently installed Windows 3.11 in a VMWare VM, including networking,

for a giggle.

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On Mon, 13 Feb 2017, at 08:13 PM,

mbsoftwaresolutions@mbsoftwaresolutions.com wrote:

> On 2017-02-10 11:52, Ed Leafe wrote:

> > I haven't touched VFP since early 2008. I don't even own a copy of it

> > anymore.

>

>

> Ed (and others),

>

> What tech do you find yourself enjoying nowadays? I don't just mean

> doing it for a paycheck, but something that you REALLY like, akin to the

> golden days when you were loving the Fox.

>

>

>

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RE: So what tech do you like to work in nowadays? (was Re: TaskPane entry for ProFox outdated)

Author: John Weller

Posted: 2017-02-14 03:08:57   Link

Masochist :-)

John Weller

01380 723235

07976 393631

>

> I recently installed Windows 3.11 in a VMWare VM, including networking,

for

> a giggle.

>

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Re: So what tech do you like to work in nowadays? (was Re: TaskPane entry for ProFox outdated)

Author: Alan Bourke

Posted: 2017-02-14 03:35:28   Link

Not strictly frivolous - we do have one remaining customer who is

gradually migrating off our ancient Foxpro 2.6 For Windows product and

it's the easiest way to have a copy of their system here. I can't bring

myself to install a 32-bit version of Windows 10 or whatever.

--

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On Tue, 14 Feb 2017, at 09:08 AM, John Weller wrote:

> Masochist :-)

>

> John Weller

> 01380 723235

> 07976 393631

>

> >

> > I recently installed Windows 3.11 in a VMWare VM, including networking,

> for

> > a giggle.

> >

>

>

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RE: So what tech do you like to work in nowadays? (was Re: TaskPane entry for ProFox outdated)

Author: Kevin J Cully

Posted: 2017-02-14 08:14:12   Link

I'm going to chime in for Xojo ... again. I find it's really fun to develop in. I'm using it at my new job working with my county government. The Xojo web application that I built for them is "invaluable" for them to accomplish their job in the Building Department.

Here's my check list:

- XBase like language: Check

- Object oriented: Check

- Singlular IDE: Check

- Case insensitive programming language: Check

- Report writer: Half check (they're working on improving this)

- FOSS: no

- Try it for free for an unlimited time: Check

- Reasonable license cost: Check

- Can develop commercial products: Check

- Deploy to as many customers as you want with that license: Check

- Small focused company: Check

- Documentation in English: Check

- Example programs: Check (Hundreds of them)

- Friendly community: Check

- Database agnostic: Check

- Active development of the product: Check

- Compile to Windows: Check

- Compile to Mac: Check

- Compile to Linux: Check

- Build console applications: Check

- Build desktop applications: Check

- Build web applications: Check

- Build iOS applications: Check

- Build Android applications: Coming soon. Perhaps 2017

- Build Raspberry Pi applications: Check

- Easy to build web applications: Yes. Almost build them like desktop applications!

- Can host web applications for a "reasonable" cost: Yes, starting at $5 at http://DigitalOcean.com and similar

- Web applications are secure: Yes. Doubly yes when hosted in the Xojo Cloud service (http://www.xojo.com/cloud/ )

- Native controls per platform: Yes (This means that a Mac app looks like a Mac app, etc. )

- Actively published magazine: Yes ( http://xdevmag.com/ )

- Conferences in USA: Yes (http://www.xojo.com/xdc/HTML/index.html )

- Conferences in EU: Yes (http://www.monkeybreadsoftware.de/xojo/events/berlin-2017-event.shtml )

- Easy to move from VFP mindset to Xojo: Yes

- Perfect: No

- Excellent: Yes

If there was ever a VFP replacement, I think Xojo is it.

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On 2017-02-10 11:52, Ed Leafe wrote:

> I haven't touched VFP since early 2008. I don't even own a copy of it

> anymore.

Ed (and others),

What tech do you find yourself enjoying nowadays? I don't just mean doing it for a paycheck, but something that you REALLY like, akin to the golden days when you were loving the Fox.

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Re: So what tech do you like to work in nowadays? (was Re: TaskPane entry for ProFox outdated)

Author: Alan Bourke

Posted: 2017-02-14 08:53:57   Link

In a similar vein I noticed this recently.

https://www.b4x.com/b4j.html

"B4J – Modern “VB6 like” development tool for cross platform desktop,

server and IoT solutions

B4J is a 100% free development tool for desktop, server and IoT

solutions.

With B4J you can easily create desktop applications (UI), console

programs (non-UI) and server solutions.

The compiled apps can run on Windows, Mac, Linux and ARM boards (such as

Raspberry Pi)."

I think some folk here used their 'BASIC For Android' product which now

seems to be called 'B4A'.

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On Tue, 14 Feb 2017, at 02:14 PM, Kevin J Cully wrote:

> I'm going to chime in for Xojo ... again. I find it's really fun to

> develop in. I'm using it at my new job working with my county

> government. The Xojo web application that I built for them is

> "invaluable" for them to accomplish their job in the Building Department.

>

> Here's my check list:

>

> - XBase like language: Check

> - Object oriented: Check

> - Singlular IDE: Check

> - Case insensitive programming language: Check

> - Report writer: Half check (they're working on improving this)

> - FOSS: no

> - Try it for free for an unlimited time: Check

> - Reasonable license cost: Check

> - Can develop commercial products: Check

> - Deploy to as many customers as you want with that license: Check

> - Small focused company: Check

> - Documentation in English: Check

> - Example programs: Check (Hundreds of them)

> - Friendly community: Check

> - Database agnostic: Check

> - Active development of the product: Check

> - Compile to Windows: Check

> - Compile to Mac: Check

> - Compile to Linux: Check

> - Build console applications: Check

> - Build desktop applications: Check

> - Build web applications: Check

> - Build iOS applications: Check

> - Build Android applications: Coming soon. Perhaps 2017

> - Build Raspberry Pi applications: Check

> - Easy to build web applications: Yes. Almost build them like desktop

> applications!

> - Can host web applications for a "reasonable" cost: Yes, starting at $5

> at http://DigitalOcean.com and similar

> - Web applications are secure: Yes. Doubly yes when hosted in the Xojo

> Cloud service (http://www.xojo.com/cloud/ )

> - Native controls per platform: Yes (This means that a Mac app looks like

> a Mac app, etc. )

> - Actively published magazine: Yes ( http://xdevmag.com/ )

> - Conferences in USA: Yes (http://www.xojo.com/xdc/HTML/index.html )

> - Conferences in EU: Yes

> (http://www.monkeybreadsoftware.de/xojo/events/berlin-2017-event.shtml )

> - Easy to move from VFP mindset to Xojo: Yes

> - Perfect: No

> - Excellent: Yes

>

> If there was ever a VFP replacement, I think Xojo is it.

>

>

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> Sent: Monday, February 13, 2017 3:14 PM

> To: ProFox Email List

> Subject: So what tech do you like to work in nowadays? (was Re: TaskPane

> entry for ProFox outdated)

>

> On 2017-02-10 11:52, Ed Leafe wrote:

> > I haven't touched VFP since early 2008. I don't even own a copy of it

> > anymore.

>

>

> Ed (and others),

>

> What tech do you find yourself enjoying nowadays? I don't just mean

> doing it for a paycheck, but something that you REALLY like, akin to the

> golden days when you were loving the Fox.

>

>

>

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RE: So what tech do you like to work in nowadays? (was Re: TaskPane entry for ProFox outdated)

Author: Dave Crozier

Posted: 2017-02-14 09:00:24   Link

B4A, B4J and B4I which covers the Android, iPhone and PC Windows/Linux platforms.

As many of you know I have used this now for about 4 years and have been extremely impressed, in fact amazed at what you can actually do with the product.

Now I am starting to look at full Virtual Reality using an Oculus headset driven by B4A and hopefully will have something to show in the next few weeks.

Like the fox, there are many ways to do things and the availability of addon libraries is fantastic. Erel, the main developer is forever helpful and keeps putting out updates to the product on a regular basis.

Other than that, T-SQL as others have said as well as C# (M$ Visual Studio). I still really want to get into Python but never seem to have the time. Maybe when I reach retirement age next year!

Dave

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In a similar vein I noticed this recently.

https://www.b4x.com/b4j.html

"B4J – Modern “VB6 like” development tool for cross platform desktop, server and IoT solutions

B4J is a 100% free development tool for desktop, server and IoT solutions.

With B4J you can easily create desktop applications (UI), console programs (non-UI) and server solutions.

The compiled apps can run on Windows, Mac, Linux and ARM boards (such as Raspberry Pi)."

I think some folk here used their 'BASIC For Android' product which now seems to be called 'B4A'.

--

Alan Bourke

alanpbourke (at) fastmail (dot) fm

On Tue, 14 Feb 2017, at 02:14 PM, Kevin J Cully wrote:

> I'm going to chime in for Xojo ... again. I find it's really fun to

> develop in. I'm using it at my new job working with my county

> government. The Xojo web application that I built for them is

> "invaluable" for them to accomplish their job in the Building Department.

>

> Here's my check list:

>

> - XBase like language: Check

> - Object oriented: Check

> - Singlular IDE: Check

> - Case insensitive programming language: Check

> - Report writer: Half check (they're working on improving this)

> - FOSS: no

> - Try it for free for an unlimited time: Check

> - Reasonable license cost: Check

> - Can develop commercial products: Check

> - Deploy to as many customers as you want with that license: Check

> - Small focused company: Check

> - Documentation in English: Check

> - Example programs: Check (Hundreds of them)

> - Friendly community: Check

> - Database agnostic: Check

> - Active development of the product: Check

> - Compile to Windows: Check

> - Compile to Mac: Check

> - Compile to Linux: Check

> - Build console applications: Check

> - Build desktop applications: Check

> - Build web applications: Check

> - Build iOS applications: Check

> - Build Android applications: Coming soon. Perhaps 2017

> - Build Raspberry Pi applications: Check

> - Easy to build web applications: Yes. Almost build them like desktop

> applications!

> - Can host web applications for a "reasonable" cost: Yes, starting at

> $5 at http://DigitalOcean.com and similar

> - Web applications are secure: Yes. Doubly yes when hosted in the Xojo

> Cloud service (http://www.xojo.com/cloud/ )

> - Native controls per platform: Yes (This means that a Mac app looks

> like a Mac app, etc. )

> - Actively published magazine: Yes ( http://xdevmag.com/ )

> - Conferences in USA: Yes (http://www.xojo.com/xdc/HTML/index.html )

> - Conferences in EU: Yes

> (http://www.monkeybreadsoftware.de/xojo/events/berlin-2017-event.shtml

> )

> - Easy to move from VFP mindset to Xojo: Yes

> - Perfect: No

> - Excellent: Yes

>

> If there was ever a VFP replacement, I think Xojo is it.

>

>

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> Subject: So what tech do you like to work in nowadays? (was Re:

> TaskPane entry for ProFox outdated)

>

> On 2017-02-10 11:52, Ed Leafe wrote:

> > I haven't touched VFP since early 2008. I don't even own a copy of

> > it anymore.

>

>

> Ed (and others),

>

> What tech do you find yourself enjoying nowadays? I don't just mean

> doing it for a paycheck, but something that you REALLY like, akin to

> the golden days when you were loving the Fox.

>

>

>

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RE: So what tech do you like to work in nowadays? (was Re: TaskPane entry for ProFox outdated)

Author: Kurt Wendt

Posted: 2017-02-14 09:50:45   Link

Ed - you mean containers like Tupperware???

:-)

Regards,

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Senior Systems Analyst

Tel. +1-212-747-9100

www.GlobeTax.com

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On Feb 13, 2017, at 2:13 PM, mbsoftwaresolutions@mbsoftwaresolutions.com

> What tech do you find yourself enjoying nowadays? I don't just mean doing it for a paycheck, but something that you REALLY like, akin to the golden days when you were loving the Fox.

I still love working in Python, even when it's not for my day job. I also love fooling around with containers and related things, but so far it's just a curiosity thing.

-- Ed Leafe

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