Author: mbsoftwaresolutions@mbsoftwaresolutions.com
Posted: 2017-01-10 09:23:28 Link
Rick's snippet from from my last thread:
> Ransomware is probably the number one reason we get new subscriptions
> to CleverFox Backup these days. People get hit,
> find giant hole in their disaster recovery plan, and then get on with
> solid, scheduled offsite backups.
Rick -- This is the first I'm hearing about this software...sounds
great! I'd love to recommend this to my few DBF clients. Is this your
company? When did you start it?
--Mike
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Interesting indeed .. will keep it in mind.
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On Tue, 10 Jan 2017, at 03:23 PM,
mbsoftwaresolutions@mbsoftwaresolutions.com wrote:
> Rick's snippet from from my last thread:
>
> > Ransomware is probably the number one reason we get new subscriptions
> > to CleverFox Backup these days. People get hit,
> > find giant hole in their disaster recovery plan, and then get on with
> > solid, scheduled offsite backups.
>
> Rick -- This is the first I'm hearing about this software...sounds
> great! I'd love to recommend this to my few DBF clients. Is this your
> company? When did you start it?
>
> --Mike
>
>
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Hi Mike,
Sorry for the delay in responding, it is tax season and our software generates 1099s so my time for forums and this list
is very limited. I'm glad I took a quick break and saw this today.
Yes, I'm a partner at Forward Thinking Software along with Frank Perez. We started building it in late 2014, and went
public at Southwest Fox 2015 by showing our beta version and getting feedback from other developers. It went into
production in January 2016 and has been rolling for the last year. It has already saved several customers from multiple
ransomware attacks, and many others from the normal common hardware failures and power problems, and of course protects
from theft, fire and other natural disasters.
SET MARKETING ON && for those who are not interested
We built this product out of a need to protect our vertical market and custom software customers who do not have an IT
person or do not do a good job at backups. It is something we have needed for several years, especially with the advent
of the ransomware discussed. It turns out the process of doing the backups was not difficult (time consuming, yes), but
the management of the backups, scheduling, monitoring, and reoccurring billing are not trivial.
CleverFox Backup backs up VFP data (DBC and/or free tables) even if they are open in shared mode, something other
backups sometimes fail to do, or will only do when they table gets closed. It also can do SQL Server backups too, which
is perfect for those who are using SQL Server Express, or better. All on a scheduled basis, configurable to be done
multiple times a day, week, or month. All it requires is Windows XP and better, and an Internet connection. Management
of the backups is done via the Web-based management console either by the customer, their IT people, or you as the
developer if given permission by the customer. Naturally it keeps a history of backups in the cloud, and even the local
computer depending on how you configure it. Mostly it is a management of the gigabytes allotted. On-the-fly backups can
also be initiated via the Web site.
Monitoring can be done via the Web site. Emails are configurable upon success, failure or missing (in the case when the
user shuts down the computer over the scheduled time). If backup is missed, the backup is performed soon after reboot
once the service gets loaded and connects to the Web server.
Restores can be initiated from the Web to copy the ZIP file down to the computer. You can also use the System Tray
applet to download backups. Someone has to decompress the file from there.
Frank also built a REST API for developers who want to interact with the data on the backend of our system too. We have
sample code for VFP developers to interact with the API. All the data returned from the API shows up in cursors. The API
is documented on the CleverFoxBackup.com site.
Plans start as low as US$9.95 a month per device (normally the computer where the data resides). The lowest level works
for most customers just fine as VFP data compresses with high efficiency.
One side benefit we did not consider when we first put this together is the ability to use the backups to restore to a
test folder, or bring down for diagnostics when the software is having a problem and it is related to data. I'm using
this feature this morning to set up a test environment for a customer.
I'm not just a partner, I am a user. We have this on our own servers, we have it on numerous customer servers and
workstations, and several other developers are using it for their customers.
We handle all the billing automatically on a monthly basis, and share revenue with partners who are referring their
customers to use the software. Give me a call if you (or anyone else on the list) are interested. 586.254.2530.
SET MARKETING OFF
Rick
White Light Computing, Inc.
www.whitelightcomputing.com
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Subject: CleverFox Backup
Rick's snippet from from my last thread:
> Ransomware is probably the number one reason we get new subscriptions
> to CleverFox Backup these days. People get hit, find giant hole in
> their disaster recovery plan, and then get on with solid, scheduled
> offsite backups.
Rick -- This is the first I'm hearing about this software...sounds great! I'd love to recommend this to my few DBF
clients. Is this your company? When did you start it?
--Mike
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That sounds brilliant, Rick! I've had several customers get hit with Ransomware over the last couple of years and the recovery process at the smaller locations has been painful.
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Hi Mike,
Sorry for the delay in responding, it is tax season and our software generates 1099s so my time for forums and this list
is very limited. I'm glad I took a quick break and saw this today.
Yes, I'm a partner at Forward Thinking Software along with Frank Perez. We started building it in late 2014, and went
public at Southwest Fox 2015 by showing our beta version and getting feedback from other developers. It went into
production in January 2016 and has been rolling for the last year. It has already saved several customers from multiple
ransomware attacks, and many others from the normal common hardware failures and power problems, and of course protects
from theft, fire and other natural disasters.
SET MARKETING ON && for those who are not interested
We built this product out of a need to protect our vertical market and custom software customers who do not have an IT
person or do not do a good job at backups. It is something we have needed for several years, especially with the advent
of the ransomware discussed. It turns out the process of doing the backups was not difficult (time consuming, yes), but
the management of the backups, scheduling, monitoring, and reoccurring billing are not trivial.
CleverFox Backup backs up VFP data (DBC and/or free tables) even if they are open in shared mode, something other
backups sometimes fail to do, or will only do when they table gets closed. It also can do SQL Server backups too, which
is perfect for those who are using SQL Server Express, or better. All on a scheduled basis, configurable to be done
multiple times a day, week, or month. All it requires is Windows XP and better, and an Internet connection. Management
of the backups is done via the Web-based management console either by the customer, their IT people, or you as the
developer if given permission by the customer. Naturally it keeps a history of backups in the cloud, and even the local
computer depending on how you configure it. Mostly it is a management of the gigabytes allotted. On-the-fly backups can
also be initiated via the Web site.
Monitoring can be done via the Web site. Emails are configurable upon success, failure or missing (in the case when the
user shuts down the computer over the scheduled time). If backup is missed, the backup is performed soon after reboot
once the service gets loaded and connects to the Web server.
Restores can be initiated from the Web to copy the ZIP file down to the computer. You can also use the System Tray
applet to download backups. Someone has to decompress the file from there.
Frank also built a REST API for developers who want to interact with the data on the backend of our system too. We have
sample code for VFP developers to interact with the API. All the data returned from the API shows up in cursors. The API
is documented on the CleverFoxBackup.com site.
Plans start as low as US$9.95 a month per device (normally the computer where the data resides). The lowest level works
for most customers just fine as VFP data compresses with high efficiency.
One side benefit we did not consider when we first put this together is the ability to use the backups to restore to a
test folder, or bring down for diagnostics when the software is having a problem and it is related to data. I'm using
this feature this morning to set up a test environment for a customer.
I'm not just a partner, I am a user. We have this on our own servers, we have it on numerous customer servers and
workstations, and several other developers are using it for their customers.
We handle all the billing automatically on a monthly basis, and share revenue with partners who are referring their
customers to use the software. Give me a call if you (or anyone else on the list) are interested. 586.254.2530.
SET MARKETING OFF
Rick
White Light Computing, Inc.
www.whitelightcomputing.com
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Sent: Tuesday, January 10, 2017 10:23
To: profoxtech@leafe.com
Subject: CleverFox Backup
Rick's snippet from from my last thread:
> Ransomware is probably the number one reason we get new subscriptions
> to CleverFox Backup these days. People get hit, find giant hole in
> their disaster recovery plan, and then get on with solid, scheduled
> offsite backups.
Rick -- This is the first I'm hearing about this software...sounds great! I'd love to recommend this to my few DBF
clients. Is this your company? When did you start it?
--Mike
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Always wrote our own Foxpro routines to backup and/or do data transfer
(sometimes using external data compression programs) .... It's not
that complicated. :)
On Fri, Jan 27, 2017 at 12:54 AM, Rick Schummer
<profox@whitelightcomputing.com> wrote:
> SET MARKETING ON && for those who are not interested
>
> CleverFox Backup backs up VFP data (DBC and/or free tables) even if they are open in shared mode, something other
> backups sometimes fail to do, or will only do when they table gets closed. It also can do SQL Server backups too, which
> is perfect for those who are using SQL Server Express, or better. All on a scheduled basis, configurable to be done
a call if you (or anyone else on the list) are interested. 586.254.2530.
>....
> SET MARKETING OFF
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Author: mbsoftwaresolutions@mbsoftwaresolutions.com
Posted: 2017-01-27 12:54:14 Link
On 2017-01-27 06:02, Man-wai Chang wrote:
> Always wrote our own Foxpro routines to backup and/or do data transfer
> (sometimes using external data compression programs) .... It's not
> that complicated. :)
>
> On Fri, Jan 27, 2017 at 12:54 AM, Rick Schummer
> <profox@whitelightcomputing.com> wrote:
>> SET MARKETING ON && for those who are not interested
>>
>> CleverFox Backup backs up VFP data (DBC and/or free tables) even if
>> they are open in shared mode, something other
>> backups sometimes fail to do, or will only do when they table gets
>> closed. It also can do SQL Server backups too, which
>> is perfect for those who are using SQL Server Express, or better. All
>> on a scheduled basis, configurable to be done
> a call if you (or anyone else on the list) are interested.
> 586.254.2530.
>> ....
>> SET MARKETING OFF
Can't you just do a FLOCK() and then SELECT * from Source into table
c:\backup\Target ?
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The thing is, with a database that is shared over many DBF files unless
you can exclusively lock each one at a given point and then back them
all up before unlocking you will never be sure you have a valid snapshot
in time.
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On Fri, 27 Jan 2017, at 06:54 PM,
mbsoftwaresolutions@mbsoftwaresolutions.com wrote:
> On 2017-01-27 06:02, Man-wai Chang wrote:
> > Always wrote our own Foxpro routines to backup and/or do data transfer
> > (sometimes using external data compression programs) .... It's not
> > that complicated. :)
> >
> > On Fri, Jan 27, 2017 at 12:54 AM, Rick Schummer
> > <profox@whitelightcomputing.com> wrote:
> >> SET MARKETING ON && for those who are not interested
> >>
> >> CleverFox Backup backs up VFP data (DBC and/or free tables) even if
> >> they are open in shared mode, something other
> >> backups sometimes fail to do, or will only do when they table gets
> >> closed. It also can do SQL Server backups too, which
> >> is perfect for those who are using SQL Server Express, or better. All
> >> on a scheduled basis, configurable to be done
> > a call if you (or anyone else on the list) are interested.
> > 586.254.2530.
> >> ....
> >> SET MARKETING OFF
>
>
>
> Can't you just do a FLOCK() and then SELECT * from Source into table
> c:\backup\Target ?
>
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On Fri, Jan 27, 2017 at 1:54 PM,
<mbsoftwaresolutions@mbsoftwaresolutions.com> wrote:
> Can't you just do a FLOCK() and then SELECT * from Source into table
> c:\backup\Target ?
Well, sure. What happens if FLOCK fails because someone left their
machine on all night?
And how do you grab all the indexes, including that new one you added last week?
And the free tables as well as the ones in the DBC.
And don't forget the captions and stored procedures in the DBC.
I mean, how hard can it be?
Selling utilities to programmers is hard, because they all COULD do
it. And after a dozen revisions or so, including some teed-off
customers, they will have ironed out most of the bugs.
Until the next one.
Or you could pay someone else to do it for you, mark it up and charge
it to the customer.
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Author: mbsoftwaresolutions@mbsoftwaresolutions.com
Posted: 2017-01-28 22:37:06 Link
On 2017-01-27 14:25, Ted Roche wrote:
> Or you could pay someone else to do it for you, mark it up and charge
> it to the customer.
Oh I definitely think they've got what sounds like a great product, and
I only wish I had lots of Fox databases out there so that I *could*
become a reseller...but alas, I don't. I've been using MySQL as my
preferred backend of choice since 2004. FabMate Lite Classic, though
(from 2003) still uses DBFs. I have 2 clients using that. I will
probably recommend Rick's utility to them.
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On 2017-01-27 14:25, Ted Roche wrote:
> Or you could pay someone else to do it for you, mark it up and charge
> it to the customer.
Oh I definitely think they've got what sounds like a great product, and
I only wish I had lots of Fox databases out there so that I *could*
become a reseller...but alas, I don't. I've been using MySQL as my
preferred backend of choice since 2004. FabMate Lite Classic, though
(from 2003) still uses DBFs. I have 2 clients using that. I will
probably recommend Rick's utility to them.
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