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2016-11-16 06:28Peter Cushing : [NF] Phishing and other cyber crime
2016-11-16 06:59Man-wai Chang : Re: [NF] Phishing and other cyber crime
2016-11-16 10:17Fred Taylor : Re: [NF] Phishing and other cyber crime
2016-11-16 11:42Gene Wirchenko : Re: [NF] Phishing and other cyber crime
2016-11-16 11:45Gene Wirchenko : Re: [NF] Phishing and other cyber crime
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[NF] Phishing and other cyber crime

Author: Peter Cushing

Posted: 2016-11-16 06:28:43   Link

Just want to throw this out there and see what other people are doing to

keep attacks at bay.

We are finding phishing and malware attacks are getting more and more

sophisticated and it is getting harder to avoid them. We got hit by a

crytowall 4 attack a while ago but fortunately have good backups. Even

when we found out which machine it was, nothing showed up when you

scanned it with all the virus and other scanners we could get our hands

on. We just wiped the machine anyway.

We learned the other day about a new type of malware that is extremely

dangerous. If it got onto one of the machines that does internet

banking (not mentioning the bank name), the machine can be controlled

from elsewhere. When the user logs on using their smart card and pin

entry devices which are both plugged into the machine, the malware then

puts up a screen saying "Authorising account" or some such message with

a waiting logo and in the background the hacker is putting payments

through on a hidden screen. The hacker then prompts the user (again)

for their pin, which authorises the hidden payment(s). I didn't think

they could get past not having the card and pin present.

We now have software to stop people plugging their own devices in:

https://www.endpointprotector.com/

and lots of web filters, but you still have the problem of people

clicking on links in emails. We have started sending out emails with

quiz type questions to try to educate people.

http://www.intronis.com/msp-resources/smb-phishing-quiz/

I got 8/9. I blame the lack of tea first thing this morning for the

other one ;-)

Thanks,

--

Peter Cushing

IT Department

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Re: [NF] Phishing and other cyber crime

Author: Man-wai Chang

Posted: 2016-11-16 06:59:07   Link

You need government intervention if not regulation for that. Existing

laws could be applied, right?

It's all about *INTENTION**!!

On Wed, Nov 16, 2016 at 8:28 PM, Peter Cushing

<pcushing@whisperingsmith.com> wrote:

> Just want to throw this out there and see what other people are doing to

> keep attacks at bay.

>

> We are finding phishing and malware attacks are getting more and more

> sophisticated and it is getting harder to avoid them. We got hit by a

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Re: [NF] Phishing and other cyber crime

Author: Fred Taylor

Posted: 2016-11-16 10:17:42   Link

Yesterday I had a strange occurrence. When I was logged into my Win 10 Pro

PC as a non-privileged domain account, I kept getting a notification that

my local admin account was trying to logon remotely. and a dialog to logoff

the domain account or cancel the remote access. So I ran MalwareBytes and

it found and quarantined a few things and rebooted. Still kept getting the

remote access request from my local admin account, but additional scans

turned up nothing. If I tried to logon with my local admin account, it

would automatically log off in about 20 seconds. Good thing I had another

local admin account that I was able to go in and change the other local

admin account password. Once I did that, no further dialogs about remote

access. A deep scan with ESET AV still turned up nothing. Not sure

who/what was trying to use the local admin account to gain access to my PC

or where the request was coming from. Scary.

Fred

On Wed, Nov 16, 2016 at 5:28 AM, Peter Cushing <pcushing@whisperingsmith.com

> wrote:

> Just want to throw this out there and see what other people are doing to

> keep attacks at bay.

>

> We are finding phishing and malware attacks are getting more and more

> sophisticated and it is getting harder to avoid them. We got hit by a

> crytowall 4 attack a while ago but fortunately have good backups. Even

> when we found out which machine it was, nothing showed up when you scanned

> it with all the virus and other scanners we could get our hands on. We

> just wiped the machine anyway.

>

> We learned the other day about a new type of malware that is extremely

> dangerous. If it got onto one of the machines that does internet banking

> (not mentioning the bank name), the machine can be controlled from

> elsewhere. When the user logs on using their smart card and pin entry

> devices which are both plugged into the machine, the malware then puts up a

> screen saying "Authorising account" or some such message with a waiting

> logo and in the background the hacker is putting payments through on a

> hidden screen. The hacker then prompts the user (again) for their pin,

> which authorises the hidden payment(s). I didn't think they could get past

> not having the card and pin present.

>

> We now have software to stop people plugging their own devices in:

>

> https://www.endpointprotector.com/

>

> and lots of web filters, but you still have the problem of people clicking

> on links in emails. We have started sending out emails with quiz type

> questions to try to educate people.

>

> http://www.intronis.com/msp-resources/smb-phishing-quiz/

>

> I got 8/9. I blame the lack of tea first thing this morning for the other

> one ;-)

>

> Thanks,

>

> --

> Peter Cushing

> IT Department

> WHISPERING SMITH

>

>

>

>

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> is addressed. The contents are confidential and may be protected in law.

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> you have received this message in error, please notify us immediately by

> telephone or email.

> www.whisperingsmith.com

>

> Whispering Smith Ltd Head Office:61 Great Ducie Street, Manchester M3 1RR.

> Tel:0161 831 3700 Fax:0161 831 3715

> London Office:17-19 Foley Street, London W1W 6DW Tel:0207 299 7960

>

>

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Re: [NF] Phishing and other cyber crime

Author: Gene Wirchenko

Posted: 2016-11-16 11:42:35   Link

At 04:28 2016-11-16, Peter Cushing <pcushing@whisperingsmith.com> wrote:

[snip]

>We now have software to stop people plugging their own devices in:

>

>[link deleted]

>

>and lots of web filters, but you still have the problem of people

>clicking on links in emails. We have started sending out emails

>with quiz type questions to try to educate people.

>

>[link deleted]

>

>I got 8/9. I blame the lack of tea first thing this morning for the

>other one ;-)

Both links appear to require JavaScript. Guess what I do not

have enabled by default. Guess why.

Sincerely,

Gene Wirchenko

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Re: [NF] Phishing and other cyber crime

Author: Gene Wirchenko

Posted: 2016-11-16 11:45:28   Link

At 04:59 2016-11-16, Man-wai Chang <changmw@gmail.com> wrote:

>You need government intervention if not regulation for that. Existing

>laws could be applied, right?

What good would that do? The phishing would still have occurred.

There are laws against murder, but murder still happens.

>It's all about *INTENTION**!!

If there is an IT mess to clean up, the lack of intention to

cause trouble does not make the mess less.

[snipped previous]

Sincerely,

Gene Wirchenko

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