Author: Alan Bourke
Posted: 2016-06-17 11:18:59 Link
With added Lord Of The Rings comparisions.
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Author: Gene Wirchenko
Posted: 2016-06-17 11:54:06 Link
At 09:18 2016-06-17, Alan Bourke <alanpbourke@fastmail.fm> wrote:
>With added Lord Of The Rings comparisions.
>
It made for a break from all the shooting-yourself-in-the-foot
comparisons.
Sincerely,
Gene Wirchenko
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Author: Kurt Wendt
Posted: 2016-06-17 12:04:59 Link
I especially liked the answer at the top - to the Q: What is Programming?
Definitely a cute graphic - entertaining to look the thing over - especially whilst I was running an SSIS Package to copy Data from a Prod to a UAT database! :-)
Regards,
Kurt Wendt
Senior Systems Analyst
Tel. +1-212-747-9100
www.GlobeTax.com
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At 09:18 2016-06-17, Alan Bourke <alanpbourke@fastmail.fm> wrote:
>With added Lord Of The Rings comparisions.
>
>http://carlcheo.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/12/which-programming-langua
>ge-should-i-learn-first-infographic.png
It made for a break from all the shooting-yourself-in-the-foot comparisons.
Sincerely,
Gene Wirchenko
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Author: John R. Sowden
Posted: 2016-06-17 12:16:16 Link
This is interesting. When I started with computers in 1977 (TRS-80
Model I), I was the target market for computers, software, etc. I am a
small businessperson who invested time and energy into using computers.
I loved it! Now, I am not recognized at all. Either I use canned
software (gnucash, a quicken wanna be), an Office Program (Libre
Office), etc. or I am a "developer" earning a living writing code for
others. Neither apply. I have been writing in dBASE II, dBXL, Foxbase,
FoxPro/DOS (Visual Foxpro 5.0, never worked (not enough memory error
with more than enough memory)). Now I am trying Pure Basic. I wonder
what happened to the rest of us.
John
On 06/17/2016 09:54 AM, Gene Wirchenko wrote:
> At 09:18 2016-06-17, Alan Bourke <alanpbourke@fastmail.fm> wrote:
>> With added Lord Of The Rings comparisions.
>>
>>
>
> It made for a break from all the shooting-yourself-in-the-foot
> comparisons.
>
> Sincerely,
>
> Gene Wirchenko
>
>
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Author: Kurt Wendt
Posted: 2016-06-17 12:21:47 Link
Yeah - I started on an Apple II doing BASIC in 1980. Dabbled in BASIC for years - then 'fell in love' with TurboPascal.
I'm still doing VFP. But, at my job - they are Pushing me Seriously to get on-board w/.Net - and either learn VB or C#.
So - I gotta get crackin' and start watching some video tutorials - and get my head wrapped around a new language...
Regards,
Kurt Wendt
Senior Systems Analyst
Tel. +1-212-747-9100
www.GlobeTax.com
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From: ProfoxTech [mailto:profoxtech-bounces@leafe.com] On Behalf Of John R. Sowden
Sent: Friday, June 17, 2016 1:16 PM
To: profoxtech@leafe.com
Subject: Re: [NF] Which Programming Language Should I Learn?
This is interesting. When I started with computers in 1977 (TRS-80 Model I), I was the target market for computers, software, etc. I am a small businessperson who invested time and energy into using computers.
I loved it! Now, I am not recognized at all. Either I use canned software (gnucash, a quicken wanna be), an Office Program (Libre Office), etc. or I am a "developer" earning a living writing code for others. Neither apply. I have been writing in dBASE II, dBXL, Foxbase, FoxPro/DOS (Visual Foxpro 5.0, never worked (not enough memory error with more than enough memory)). Now I am trying Pure Basic. I wonder what happened to the rest of us.
John
On 06/17/2016 09:54 AM, Gene Wirchenko wrote:
> At 09:18 2016-06-17, Alan Bourke <alanpbourke@fastmail.fm> wrote:
>> With added Lord Of The Rings comparisions.
>>
>> http://carlcheo.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/12/which-programming-lang
>> uage-should-i-learn-first-infographic.png
>>
>
> It made for a break from all the shooting-yourself-in-the-foot
> comparisons.
>
> Sincerely,
>
> Gene Wirchenko
>
>
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Author: Alan Bourke
Posted: 2016-06-17 13:39:45 Link
Make it C# would be my opinion.
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On Fri, 17 Jun 2016, at 06:21 PM, Kurt Wendt wrote:
> Yeah - I started on an Apple II doing BASIC in 1980. Dabbled in BASIC for
> years - then 'fell in love' with TurboPascal.
>
> I'm still doing VFP. But, at my job - they are Pushing me Seriously to
> get on-board w/.Net - and either learn VB or C#.
>
> So - I gotta get crackin' and start watching some video tutorials - and
> get my head wrapped around a new language...
>
> Regards,
> Kurt Wendt
> Senior Systems Analyst
>
>
> Tel. +1-212-747-9100
> www.GlobeTax.com
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: ProfoxTech [mailto:profoxtech-bounces@leafe.com] On Behalf Of John
> R. Sowden
> Sent: Friday, June 17, 2016 1:16 PM
> To: profoxtech@leafe.com
> Subject: Re: [NF] Which Programming Language Should I Learn?
>
> This is interesting. When I started with computers in 1977 (TRS-80 Model
> I), I was the target market for computers, software, etc. I am a small
> businessperson who invested time and energy into using computers.
> I loved it! Now, I am not recognized at all. Either I use canned
> software (gnucash, a quicken wanna be), an Office Program (Libre Office),
> etc. or I am a "developer" earning a living writing code for others.
> Neither apply. I have been writing in dBASE II, dBXL, Foxbase,
> FoxPro/DOS (Visual Foxpro 5.0, never worked (not enough memory error with
> more than enough memory)). Now I am trying Pure Basic. I wonder what
> happened to the rest of us.
>
> John
>
>
> On 06/17/2016 09:54 AM, Gene Wirchenko wrote:
> > At 09:18 2016-06-17, Alan Bourke <alanpbourke@fastmail.fm> wrote:
> >> With added Lord Of The Rings comparisions.
> >>
> >> http://carlcheo.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/12/which-programming-lang
> >> uage-should-i-learn-first-infographic.png
> >>
> >
> > It made for a break from all the shooting-yourself-in-the-foot
> > comparisons.
> >
> > Sincerely,
> >
> > Gene Wirchenko
> >
> >
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Author: Stephen Russell
Posted: 2016-06-17 14:05:41 Link
Javascript, HTML5, CSS, in an MVC environment today.
On Fri, Jun 17, 2016 at 1:39 PM, Alan Bourke <alanpbourke@fastmail.fm>
wrote:
> Make it C# would be my opinion.
>
> --
> Alan Bourke
> alanpbourke (at) fastmail (dot) fm
>
> On Fri, 17 Jun 2016, at 06:21 PM, Kurt Wendt wrote:
> > Yeah - I started on an Apple II doing BASIC in 1980. Dabbled in BASIC for
> > years - then 'fell in love' with TurboPascal.
> >
> > I'm still doing VFP. But, at my job - they are Pushing me Seriously to
> > get on-board w/.Net - and either learn VB or C#.
> >
> > So - I gotta get crackin' and start watching some video tutorials - and
> > get my head wrapped around a new language...
> >
> > Regards,
> > Kurt Wendt
> > Senior Systems Analyst
> >
> >
> > Tel. +1-212-747-9100
> > www.GlobeTax.com
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: ProfoxTech [mailto:profoxtech-bounces@leafe.com] On Behalf Of John
> > R. Sowden
> > Sent: Friday, June 17, 2016 1:16 PM
> > To: profoxtech@leafe.com
> > Subject: Re: [NF] Which Programming Language Should I Learn?
> >
> > This is interesting. When I started with computers in 1977 (TRS-80 Model
> > I), I was the target market for computers, software, etc. I am a small
> > businessperson who invested time and energy into using computers.
> > I loved it! Now, I am not recognized at all. Either I use canned
> > software (gnucash, a quicken wanna be), an Office Program (Libre Office),
> > etc. or I am a "developer" earning a living writing code for others.
> > Neither apply. I have been writing in dBASE II, dBXL, Foxbase,
> > FoxPro/DOS (Visual Foxpro 5.0, never worked (not enough memory error with
> > more than enough memory)). Now I am trying Pure Basic. I wonder what
> > happened to the rest of us.
> >
> > John
> >
> >
> > On 06/17/2016 09:54 AM, Gene Wirchenko wrote:
> > > At 09:18 2016-06-17, Alan Bourke <alanpbourke@fastmail.fm> wrote:
> > >> With added Lord Of The Rings comparisions.
> > >>
> > >> http://carlcheo.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/12/which-programming-lang
> > >> uage-should-i-learn-first-infographic.png
> > >>
> > >
> > > It made for a break from all the shooting-yourself-in-the-foot
> > > comparisons.
> > >
> > > Sincerely,
> > >
> > > Gene Wirchenko
> > >
> > >
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Author: Ted Roche
Posted: 2016-06-18 07:07:32 Link
Great Friday question! All of them! PostScript, Lua, Perl-Compatible
Regular Expressions, Bourne Shell Script, PowerScript, COBOL, even
FoxPro! It's handy to know a few and dabble in a few more.
You'd expect a home contractor to arrive with a truck full of tools,
not just a hammer. In a pinch you can do a lot with a hammer, but you
wouldn't want a house that was built with nothing else. A professional
who knows one language is a one-trick pony.
ProagProg has their "Learn Seven" books, worth considering:
https://pragprog.com/book/btlang/seven-languages-in-seven-weeks
https://pragprog.com/book/rwdata/seven-databases-in-seven-weeks
https://pragprog.com/book/7web/seven-web-frameworks-in-seven-weeks
... and more (search for "seven")
On Fri, Jun 17, 2016 at 3:05 PM, Stephen Russell <srussell705@gmail.com> wrote:
> Javascript, HTML5, CSS, in an MVC environment today.
>
>
>
> On Fri, Jun 17, 2016 at 1:39 PM, Alan Bourke <alanpbourke@fastmail.fm>
> wrote:
>
>> Make it C# would be my opinion.
>>
>> --
>> Alan Bourke
>> alanpbourke (at) fastmail (dot) fm
>>
>> On Fri, 17 Jun 2016, at 06:21 PM, Kurt Wendt wrote:
>> > Yeah - I started on an Apple II doing BASIC in 1980. Dabbled in BASIC for
>> > years - then 'fell in love' with TurboPascal.
>> >
>> > I'm still doing VFP. But, at my job - they are Pushing me Seriously to
>> > get on-board w/.Net - and either learn VB or C#.
>> >
>> > So - I gotta get crackin' and start watching some video tutorials - and
>> > get my head wrapped around a new language...
>> >
>> > Regards,
>> > Kurt Wendt
>> > Senior Systems Analyst
>> >
>> >
>> > Tel. +1-212-747-9100
>> > www.GlobeTax.com
>> >
>> >
>> > -----Original Message-----
>> > From: ProfoxTech [mailto:profoxtech-bounces@leafe.com] On Behalf Of John
>> > R. Sowden
>> > Sent: Friday, June 17, 2016 1:16 PM
>> > To: profoxtech@leafe.com
>> > Subject: Re: [NF] Which Programming Language Should I Learn?
>> >
>> > This is interesting. When I started with computers in 1977 (TRS-80 Model
>> > I), I was the target market for computers, software, etc. I am a small
>> > businessperson who invested time and energy into using computers.
>> > I loved it! Now, I am not recognized at all. Either I use canned
>> > software (gnucash, a quicken wanna be), an Office Program (Libre Office),
>> > etc. or I am a "developer" earning a living writing code for others.
>> > Neither apply. I have been writing in dBASE II, dBXL, Foxbase,
>> > FoxPro/DOS (Visual Foxpro 5.0, never worked (not enough memory error with
>> > more than enough memory)). Now I am trying Pure Basic. I wonder what
>> > happened to the rest of us.
>> >
>> > John
>> >
>> >
>> > On 06/17/2016 09:54 AM, Gene Wirchenko wrote:
>> > > At 09:18 2016-06-17, Alan Bourke <alanpbourke@fastmail.fm> wrote:
>> > >> With added Lord Of The Rings comparisions.
>> > >>
>> > >> http://carlcheo.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/12/which-programming-lang
>> > >> uage-should-i-learn-first-infographic.png
>> > >>
>> > >
>> > > It made for a break from all the shooting-yourself-in-the-foot
>> > > comparisons.
>> > >
>> > > Sincerely,
>> > >
>> > > Gene Wirchenko
>> > >
>> > >
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Author: Ted Roche
Posted: 2016-06-18 18:18:31 Link
Some people consider programming languages to be religions:
Though we know it's far more important than that.
On Sat, Jun 18, 2016 at 8:07 AM, Ted Roche <tedroche@gmail.com> wrote:
> Great Friday question! All of them! PostScript, Lua, Perl-Compatible
> Regular Expressions, Bourne Shell Script, PowerScript, COBOL, even
> FoxPro! It's handy to know a few and dabble in a few more.
>
> You'd expect a home contractor to arrive with a truck full of tools,
> not just a hammer. In a pinch you can do a lot with a hammer, but you
> wouldn't want a house that was built with nothing else. A professional
> who knows one language is a one-trick pony.
>
> ProagProg has their "Learn Seven" books, worth considering:
>
> https://pragprog.com/book/btlang/seven-languages-in-seven-weeks
> https://pragprog.com/book/rwdata/seven-databases-in-seven-weeks
> https://pragprog.com/book/7web/seven-web-frameworks-in-seven-weeks
>
> ... and more (search for "seven")
>
> On Fri, Jun 17, 2016 at 3:05 PM, Stephen Russell <srussell705@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Javascript, HTML5, CSS, in an MVC environment today.
>>
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Jun 17, 2016 at 1:39 PM, Alan Bourke <alanpbourke@fastmail.fm>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Make it C# would be my opinion.
>>>
>>> --
>>> Alan Bourke
>>> alanpbourke (at) fastmail (dot) fm
>>>
>>> On Fri, 17 Jun 2016, at 06:21 PM, Kurt Wendt wrote:
>>> > Yeah - I started on an Apple II doing BASIC in 1980. Dabbled in BASIC for
>>> > years - then 'fell in love' with TurboPascal.
>>> >
>>> > I'm still doing VFP. But, at my job - they are Pushing me Seriously to
>>> > get on-board w/.Net - and either learn VB or C#.
>>> >
>>> > So - I gotta get crackin' and start watching some video tutorials - and
>>> > get my head wrapped around a new language...
>>> >
>>> > Regards,
>>> > Kurt Wendt
>>> > Senior Systems Analyst
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > Tel. +1-212-747-9100
>>> > www.GlobeTax.com
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > -----Original Message-----
>>> > From: ProfoxTech [mailto:profoxtech-bounces@leafe.com] On Behalf Of John
>>> > R. Sowden
>>> > Sent: Friday, June 17, 2016 1:16 PM
>>> > To: profoxtech@leafe.com
>>> > Subject: Re: [NF] Which Programming Language Should I Learn?
>>> >
>>> > This is interesting. When I started with computers in 1977 (TRS-80 Model
>>> > I), I was the target market for computers, software, etc. I am a small
>>> > businessperson who invested time and energy into using computers.
>>> > I loved it! Now, I am not recognized at all. Either I use canned
>>> > software (gnucash, a quicken wanna be), an Office Program (Libre Office),
>>> > etc. or I am a "developer" earning a living writing code for others.
>>> > Neither apply. I have been writing in dBASE II, dBXL, Foxbase,
>>> > FoxPro/DOS (Visual Foxpro 5.0, never worked (not enough memory error with
>>> > more than enough memory)). Now I am trying Pure Basic. I wonder what
>>> > happened to the rest of us.
>>> >
>>> > John
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > On 06/17/2016 09:54 AM, Gene Wirchenko wrote:
>>> > > At 09:18 2016-06-17, Alan Bourke <alanpbourke@fastmail.fm> wrote:
>>> > >> With added Lord Of The Rings comparisions.
>>> > >>
>>> > >> http://carlcheo.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/12/which-programming-lang
>>> > >> uage-should-i-learn-first-infographic.png
>>> > >>
>>> > >
>>> > > It made for a break from all the shooting-yourself-in-the-foot
>>> > > comparisons.
>>> > >
>>> > > Sincerely,
>>> > >
>>> > > Gene Wirchenko
>>> > >
>>> > >
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Author: Kurt@VR-FX
Posted: 2016-06-18 18:57:32 Link
Ted - just curious. Ur comment re:'a home contractor' - was that in ref
to me? Since, now - @ my day job - I'm an employee and no longer a
consultant...
-K-
On 6/18/2016 8:07 AM, Ted Roche wrote:
> Great Friday question! All of them! PostScript, Lua, Perl-Compatible
> Regular Expressions, Bourne Shell Script, PowerScript, COBOL, even
> FoxPro! It's handy to know a few and dabble in a few more.
>
> You'd expect a home contractor to arrive with a truck full of tools,
> not just a hammer. In a pinch you can do a lot with a hammer, but you
> wouldn't want a house that was built with nothing else. A professional
> who knows one language is a one-trick pony.
>
> ProagProg has their "Learn Seven" books, worth considering:
>
> https://pragprog.com/book/btlang/seven-languages-in-seven-weeks
> https://pragprog.com/book/rwdata/seven-databases-in-seven-weeks
> https://pragprog.com/book/7web/seven-web-frameworks-in-seven-weeks
>
> ... and more (search for "seven")
>
> On Fri, Jun 17, 2016 at 3:05 PM, Stephen Russell <srussell705@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Javascript, HTML5, CSS, in an MVC environment today.
>>
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Jun 17, 2016 at 1:39 PM, Alan Bourke <alanpbourke@fastmail.fm>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Make it C# would be my opinion.
>>>
>>> --
>>> Alan Bourke
>>> alanpbourke (at) fastmail (dot) fm
>>>
>>> On Fri, 17 Jun 2016, at 06:21 PM, Kurt Wendt wrote:
>>>> Yeah - I started on an Apple II doing BASIC in 1980. Dabbled in BASIC for
>>>> years - then 'fell in love' with TurboPascal.
>>>>
>>>> I'm still doing VFP. But, at my job - they are Pushing me Seriously to
>>>> get on-board w/.Net - and either learn VB or C#.
>>>>
>>>> So - I gotta get crackin' and start watching some video tutorials - and
>>>> get my head wrapped around a new language...
>>>>
>>>> Regards,
>>>> Kurt Wendt
>>>> Senior Systems Analyst
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Tel. +1-212-747-9100
>>>> www.GlobeTax.com
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: ProfoxTech [mailto:profoxtech-bounces@leafe.com] On Behalf Of John
>>>> R. Sowden
>>>> Sent: Friday, June 17, 2016 1:16 PM
>>>> To: profoxtech@leafe.com
>>>> Subject: Re: [NF] Which Programming Language Should I Learn?
>>>>
>>>> This is interesting. When I started with computers in 1977 (TRS-80 Model
>>>> I), I was the target market for computers, software, etc. I am a small
>>>> businessperson who invested time and energy into using computers.
>>>> I loved it! Now, I am not recognized at all. Either I use canned
>>>> software (gnucash, a quicken wanna be), an Office Program (Libre Office),
>>>> etc. or I am a "developer" earning a living writing code for others.
>>>> Neither apply. I have been writing in dBASE II, dBXL, Foxbase,
>>>> FoxPro/DOS (Visual Foxpro 5.0, never worked (not enough memory error with
>>>> more than enough memory)). Now I am trying Pure Basic. I wonder what
>>>> happened to the rest of us.
>>>>
>>>> John
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 06/17/2016 09:54 AM, Gene Wirchenko wrote:
>>>>> At 09:18 2016-06-17, Alan Bourke <alanpbourke@fastmail.fm> wrote:
>>>>>> With added Lord Of The Rings comparisions.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> http://carlcheo.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/12/which-programming-lang
>>>>>> uage-should-i-learn-first-infographic.png
>>>>>>
>>>>> It made for a break from all the shooting-yourself-in-the-foot
>>>>> comparisons.
>>>>>
>>>>> Sincerely,
>>>>>
>>>>> Gene Wirchenko
>>>>>
>>>>>
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