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2012-12-12 08:22Ted Roche : [NF] Remote printing, now in 3D!
2012-12-13 08:55Kurt @ VR-FX : Re: [NF] Remote printing, now in 3D!
2016-06-10 11:21Mike Copeland : [NF] Remote printing
2016-06-10 11:32Stephen Russell : Re: [NF] Remote printing
2016-06-10 11:37Mike Copeland : Re: [NF] Remote printing
2016-06-10 11:43Fred Taylor : Re: [NF] Remote printing
2016-06-10 11:46Allen : Re: [NF] Remote printing
2016-06-10 11:51Ted Roche : Re: [NF] Remote printing
2016-06-10 12:48Mike Copeland : Re: [NF] Remote printing
2016-06-10 12:53Mike Copeland : Re: [NF] Remote printing
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[NF] Remote printing, now in 3D!

Author: Ted Roche

Posted: 2012-12-12 08:22:13   Link

Too late to shop for Christmas? Why not just print the presents you want to

give?

http://www.forbes.com/sites/andygreenberg/2012/12/10/inside-the-worlds-biggest-consumer-focused-3d-printing-factory/

Shapeways is a Queens-based factory using industrial (laser and nylon

sinter) 3D printing machine to print designs sent in by their customers.

Pretty cool pictures.

Neat idea for those of us who don't want to try to assemble their own

RepRap.

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http://www.tedroche.com

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Re: [NF] Remote printing, now in 3D!

Author: Kurt @ VR-FX

Posted: 2012-12-13 08:55:01   Link

Hey there Ted,

Thanks for that link - it was an interesting link & video.

On 12/12/2012 9:22 AM, Ted Roche wrote:

> Too late to shop for Christmas? Why not just print the presents you want to

> give?

Well, there are several complications with that. 1 - Turn around time is

VERY Slow w/Shapeways - as they tend to have a back log, and your item

may be in the Queue for several weeks. They actually claim its several

weeks between your placing an order, and the item getting printed and

shipped out. And, the time can actually be longer - depending on the

material you select.

2 - If you plan to Design your own XMas - you need to seriously know

what you are doing - with regards to 3D Design SW. Of course, now,

Shapeways actually has interfaces on their website (I haven't seen it

directly - but, rather - saw it in a Video about Shapeways) that allowed

people to "design" certain objects interactively - like a sake cup set.

3 - Its also about Size. Things are actually pricey to print via

Shapeways. I've tried over time uploading certain items - and even a

Vase only about 10 - 12 inches tall was going to cost me like $170 to

print, or somewhere about that price. I was doing this a while ago, so I

dont remember exact price or size. As such, I've seen how people get

around this. They tend to make VERY Small things that they design to be

printed, or that other people can buy. Many items under 2 in. tall. For

those taller items - they tend to make things VERY THIN Walled and/or a

lot of holes!

So - there are still many limitations to this as a service. I have heard

that Staples stores are about to also offer 3D Printing as a service.

>

> http://www.forbes.com/sites/andygreenberg/2012/12/10/inside-the-worlds-biggest-consumer-focused-3d-printing-factory/

>

> Shapeways is a Queens-based factory using industrial (laser and nylon

> sinter) 3D printing machine to print designs sent in by their customers.

> Pretty cool pictures.

Just to clarify - I believe they actually began in the Netherlands. And,

they've been around for like 3 maybe 4 years now. And, its only in like

the past year that they opened up shop in Queens (I think its Long

Island City to be specific).

> Neat idea for those of us who don't want to try to assemble their own

> RepRap.

Well - these days - there are many, MANY More options than just the

Rep-Rap. More machines are being sold as pre-built (MakerBot - which use

to subsist on Kits - now ONLY sells pre-built, but, they have priced

them Much higher now and out of range for a lot of the DIY community).

Mine is a MakerBot CupCake, consisting of Hundreds of parts - that was a

nightmare to build. Yeah, I'm not much of a DIY guy - I just wanted

something that works.

In Jan. of 2011 I had come up with the design of a board game. I wanted

to produce a playable prototype of the game - so that I could maybe

approach one of the big game co.'s - like Hasbro. I had been designing

all the pieces in 3D CG. So, I considered Shapeways. I began uploading

pieces to Shapeways, to find the costs to get pieces printed. My game

was going to be based upon multiple levels, kind of like floors of a

building. So, it would require Many playing pieces. After uploading some

pieces - and finding the per piece price - and calculating the cost for

a full set of pieces - I quickly found it was getting cost prohibitive.

I even started modifying ALL the pieces - to put holes in them and

making them Thin Walled. (And - yeah - the holes were in such a way as

to make them interesting looking designed pieces!) But, still, it was

cost prohibitive. Even after putting holes & tweaking the designs - it

was going to cost me like $1700 for a single Board Game Set! Which, of

course, is NUTS - considering it would be made out of Plastic and NOT

Gold!!!

So - in the end, that's why I bought my Bot - at $699 for the Kit. Since

then, I've worked on other prototype designs (including at least one

item I am looking to patent) - and multiple art type sculptures (like my

Dragon).

-K-

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[NF] Remote printing

Author: Mike Copeland

Posted: 2016-06-10 11:21:59   Link

I have a client who wants to be able to print from his computer to a

network-connected laser printer. No problem...except, the network

printer is in a different city 105 miles away.

I can think up a few "Rube Goldberg" solutions, but I'm guessing that

there is already a way...is there a "Windows Way" to do this?

Many thanks for any brain cycles.

Mike Copeland

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Re: [NF] Remote printing

Author: Stephen Russell

Posted: 2016-06-10 11:32:49   Link

1. Remote to a PC in that location.

2. VPN into the network

On Fri, Jun 10, 2016 at 11:21 AM, Mike Copeland <mike@ggisoft.com> wrote:

> I have a client who wants to be able to print from his computer to a

> network-connected laser printer. No problem...except, the network printer

> is in a different city 105 miles away.

>

> I can think up a few "Rube Goldberg" solutions, but I'm guessing that

> there is already a way...is there a "Windows Way" to do this?

>

> Many thanks for any brain cycles.

>

> Mike Copeland

>

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Re: [NF] Remote printing

Author: Mike Copeland

Posted: 2016-06-10 11:37:54   Link

Thanks Stephen. That's one of my RG solutions. As you say, it requires a

PC in remote location that no one uses. Trying to keep people from

mucking with an un-attended computer in this company is like fighting

off sex addicts at a hooker's convention.

So Windows doesn't have any way to route packets via TCP-IP protocol to

a printer at a remote location? I find that surprising.

Mike C

Stephen Russell wrote:

> 1. Remote to a PC in that location.

> 2. VPN into the network

>

>

>

> On Fri, Jun 10, 2016 at 11:21 AM, Mike Copeland <mike@ggisoft.com> wrote:

>

>> I have a client who wants to be able to print from his computer to a

>> network-connected laser printer. No problem...except, the network printer

>> is in a different city 105 miles away.

>>

>> I can think up a few "Rube Goldberg" solutions, but I'm guessing that

>> there is already a way...is there a "Windows Way" to do this?

>>

>> Many thanks for any brain cycles.

>>

>> Mike Copeland

>>

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Re: [NF] Remote printing

Author: Fred Taylor

Posted: 2016-06-10 11:43:52   Link

Google "Google Cloud Print". We used it for a saleperson we had in

Nebraska, so they could print here in Phoenix. It worked pretty well, in

spite or them having a satellite internet service, which in most ways was

just horrible.

Fred

On Fri, Jun 10, 2016 at 9:21 AM, Mike Copeland <mike@ggisoft.com> wrote:

> I have a client who wants to be able to print from his computer to a

> network-connected laser printer. No problem...except, the network printer

> is in a different city 105 miles away.

>

> I can think up a few "Rube Goldberg" solutions, but I'm guessing that

> there is already a way...is there a "Windows Way" to do this?

>

> Many thanks for any brain cycles.

>

> Mike Copeland

>

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Re: [NF] Remote printing

Author: Allen

Posted: 2016-06-10 11:46:09   Link

My epson had an email address. Ive not used it for ages but it did work

Al

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I have a client who wants to be able to print from his computer to a

network-connected laser printer. No problem...except, the network

printer is in a different city 105 miles away.

I can think up a few "Rube Goldberg" solutions, but I'm guessing that

there is already a way...is there a "Windows Way" to do this?

Many thanks for any brain cycles.

Mike Copeland

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Re: [NF] Remote printing

Author: Ted Roche

Posted: 2016-06-10 11:51:40   Link

Mike:

Several of the printer manufacturers offer the equivalent of Cloud

Print, like HP Mobile Printing:

http://www8.hp.com/us/en/ads/mobility/overview.html?jumpid=va_r11400_mobileprinting

So, you might want to check if the manufacturer offers something similar.

Failing that, you can use IPP (Internet Printing Protocol) if your

router supports it.

Bear in mind any of these solutions open holes in firewalls to let

things through, and need to be reviewed carefully.

On Fri, Jun 10, 2016 at 12:21 PM, Mike Copeland <mike@ggisoft.com> wrote:

> I have a client who wants to be able to print from his computer to a

> network-connected laser printer. No problem...except, the network printer is

> in a different city 105 miles away.

>

> I can think up a few "Rube Goldberg" solutions, but I'm guessing that there

> is already a way...is there a "Windows Way" to do this?

>

> Many thanks for any brain cycles.

>

> Mike Copeland

>

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Re: [NF] Remote printing

Author: Mike Copeland

Posted: 2016-06-10 12:48:37   Link

This looks very promising, Fred! Thanks!

I'm reading Google's fluffery now.

Mike

Fred Taylor wrote:

> Google "Google Cloud Print". We used it for a saleperson we had in

> Nebraska, so they could print here in Phoenix. It worked pretty well, in

> spite or them having a satellite internet service, which in most ways was

> just horrible.

>

> Fred

>

> On Fri, Jun 10, 2016 at 9:21 AM, Mike Copeland <mike@ggisoft.com> wrote:

>

>> I have a client who wants to be able to print from his computer to a

>> network-connected laser printer. No problem...except, the network printer

>> is in a different city 105 miles away.

>>

>> I can think up a few "Rube Goldberg" solutions, but I'm guessing that

>> there is already a way...is there a "Windows Way" to do this?

>>

>> Many thanks for any brain cycles.

>>

>> Mike Copeland

>>

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Re: [NF] Remote printing

Author: Mike Copeland

Posted: 2016-06-10 12:53:25   Link

That's kind of an interesting approach...so you would send it an email,

it would 'fetch' the email like an email client, and then print the

email and/or attachment? I wonder how it would format the attachment? It

would have to open a DOC file as a Word document and then rasterize

it...wow, that's a difficult (for them to make) solution!

Thanks Al!

Mike

Allen wrote:

> My epson had an email address. Ive not used it for ages but it did work

> Al

>

> -----Original Message----- From: Mike Copeland Sent: Friday, June 10,

> 2016 6:21 PM To: profoxtech@leafe.com Subject: [NF] Remote printing

> I have a client who wants to be able to print from his computer to a

> network-connected laser printer. No problem...except, the network

> printer is in a different city 105 miles away.

>

> I can think up a few "Rube Goldberg" solutions, but I'm guessing that

> there is already a way...is there a "Windows Way" to do this?

>

> Many thanks for any brain cycles.

>

> Mike Copeland

>

>

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