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2016-01-27 11:08 – AndyHC : [NF] Ed Yourdon
2016-01-28 02:38 – Dave Crozier : RE: [NF] Ed Yourdon
2016-01-28 04:18 – Man-wai Chang : Re: [NF] Ed Yourdon
2016-01-28 05:26 – Ted Roche : Re: [NF] Ed Yourdon
2016-01-28 19:53 – mbsoftwaresolutions@mbsoftwaresolutions.com: RE: [NF] Ed Yourdon
2016-01-29 07:10 – Edward Leafe : Re: [NF] Ed Yourdon
2016-01-29 08:55 – John Weller : Re: [NF] Ed Yourdon
2016-01-29 11:56 – Gene Wirchenko : RE: [NF] Ed Yourdon
2016-01-29 12:43 – Ted Roche : Re: [NF] Ed Yourdon
2016-01-29 13:06 – Gene Wirchenko : Re: [NF] Ed Yourdon
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[NF] Ed Yourdon

Author: AndyHC

Posted: 2016-01-27 11:08:17   Link

Ed Yourdon has died. A name that reverberated through much of my career.

http://www.i-programmer.info/news/82/9377.html

Not the sort of news that's welcome at any time, but especially as he

was a year younger than me!

AndyD

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RE: [NF] Ed Yourdon

Author: Dave Crozier

Posted: 2016-01-28 02:38:51   Link

Sad news indeed but he did make a big mistake with his predictions about the severity of the Y2K problem despite selling a lot of books about it!

Dave

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Ed Yourdon has died. A name that reverberated through much of my career.

http://www.i-programmer.info/news/82/9377.html

Not the sort of news that's welcome at any time, but especially as he was a year younger than me!

AndyD

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Re: [NF] Ed Yourdon

Author: Man-wai Chang

Posted: 2016-01-28 04:18:18   Link

I remember this person, but I could hardly tell anything useful from

his work. :)

On Thu, Jan 28, 2016 at 1:08 AM, AndyHC <jarndice@gmail.com> wrote:

> Ed Yourdon has died. A name that reverberated through much of my career.

> http://www.i-programmer.info/news/82/9377.html

> Not the sort of news that's welcome at any time, but especially as he was a

> year younger than me!

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Re: [NF] Ed Yourdon

Author: Ted Roche

Posted: 2016-01-28 05:26:36   Link

On Thu, Jan 28, 2016 at 3:38 AM, Dave Crozier <DaveC@flexipol.co.uk> wrote:

> Sad news indeed but he did make a big mistake with his predictions about the severity of the Y2K problem despite selling a lot of books about it!

>

Either that or he helped raise the alarm (or hysteria, depending on

your viewpoint) that resulting in the huge crash programs that kept

airplanes from falling from the skies, the financial industry from

grinding to a halt, and the end of the world as we know it. I suspect

the truth is somewhere in the middle. We really don't know what would

have happened if we didn't. I know I billed a lot of hours in the time

leading up to 12/31/1999.

"The Rise and Fall of the American Programmer" wasn't 100% accurate,

either. Hence, "The Death and Resurrection...'

Making predictions is hard, especially about the future...

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RE: [NF] Ed Yourdon

Author: mbsoftwaresolutions@mbsoftwaresolutions.com

Posted: 2016-01-28 19:53:54   Link

On 2016-01-28 03:38, Dave Crozier wrote:

> Sad news indeed but he did make a big mistake with his predictions

> about the severity of the Y2K problem despite selling a lot of books

> about it!

He laughed all the way to the bank I'm sure about the Y2K work.

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Re: [NF] Ed Yourdon

Author: Edward Leafe

Posted: 2016-01-29 07:10:33   Link

On Jan 28, 2016, at 7:53 PM, mbsoftwaresolutions@mbsoftwaresolutions.com wrote:

>

>> Sad news indeed but he did make a big mistake with his predictions

>> about the severity of the Y2K problem despite selling a lot of books

>> about it!

>

> He laughed all the way to the bank I'm sure about the Y2K work.

You think it was a hoax? IMO, it was a very critical warning that every major company around the globe examined and agreed with, and then invested a lot of money in fixing. The only reason that those things didn't happen is because of the advance warning by people like Yourdon. There were many problems in systems that weren't fixed, such as people getting video rental bills in the thousands because they had rented a VHS tape for 100 years, but because they weren't the type of systems that people's lives depended on, they were relatively simple to remedy manually. The important systems had already been fixed.

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Re: [NF] Ed Yourdon

Author: John Weller

Posted: 2016-01-29 08:55:03   Link

+1

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> You think it was a hoax? IMO, it was a very critical warning that every major company around the globe examined and agreed with, and then invested a lot of money in fixing. The only reason that those things didn't happen is because of the advance warning by people like Yourdon. There were many problems in systems that weren't fixed, such as people getting video rental bills in the thousands because they had rented a VHS tape for 100 years, but because they weren't the type of systems that people's lives depended on, they were relatively simple to remedy manually. The important systems had already been fixed.

>

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RE: [NF] Ed Yourdon

Author: Gene Wirchenko

Posted: 2016-01-29 11:56:03   Link

At 00:38 2016-01-28, Dave Crozier <DaveC@Flexipol.co.uk> wrote:

>Sad news indeed but he did make a big mistake with his predictions

>about the severity of the Y2K problem despite selling a lot of books about it!

Did he? Maybe, he wanted to draw attention to the problem,

succeeded in that, and as a result, most of the problem was averted.

[snip]

Sincerely,

Gene Wirchenko

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Re: [NF] Ed Yourdon

Author: Ted Roche

Posted: 2016-01-29 12:43:18   Link

Kent Beck's memorial is touching:

https://www.facebook.com/notes/kent-beck/memories-of-ed-yourdon/1093421947357335

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Re: [NF] Ed Yourdon

Author: Gene Wirchenko

Posted: 2016-01-29 13:06:57   Link

At 10:43 2016-01-29, Ted Roche <tedroche@gmail.com> wrote:

>Kent Beck's memorial is touching:

>

>https://www.facebook.com/notes/kent-beck/memories-of-ed-yourdon/1093421947357335

My favourite part is this paragraph:

The intimacy of his response to my first question gave me courage to

ask the question I really wanted to ask: "Why did you charge up the

hill carrying the Y2K flag? People are calling you Chicken Little.

Your reputation is gone." He replied that he hoped that would be the

outcome. If he did nothing, serious problems would ensue for

everyone. If he tried and succeeded (which he did), then his

reputation was a small price to pay. I was stunned. I had finally

built a reputation by that time and I couldn't imagine deliberately

sacrificing it.

and rather answers about Y2K as raised earlier in this thread.

Sincerely,

Gene Wirchenko

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