Those of you who were either interested in or actually purchased/downloaded the Basic4Android software that i rate very highly will be glad to know (Hopefully) that the equivalent software for i(devices) is now available for a limited time on a 2 year special discounted offer (All updates).
The iDE runs on a standard PC and you can either develop using a cloud based MacOSX environment or using a Local MAC with the iOS device attached.
I have just converted over my Stock Application here at Flexipol onto iOS in about 2 hours and that time included setting up the IDE for the first time!
Now that the same environment/language is available for Android, iOS and Jave (B4J is COMPLETELY FREE!!!) it opens up a huge marketplace for developers.
http://www.basic4ppc.com/index.html All versions and free test downloads are available from here.
B4i is available at: http://www.basic4ppc.com/android/b4i.html for $99 with 2 years updates and $125 if you want to use the Hosted Mac Builder.
Definitely Recommended
Dave
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I looked at that. There seemed to be extra charges (not them) for compiling
if you didn't have an apple,plus you needed a fee to apple to put it on the
shop. I thought it was not worth it as android was free and better than IOS.
Al
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Al,
If you use the Remote "MAC hosted environment" provided by Anywhere Software then it is a little more expensive as a one off charge and yes, the APPLE 10% contribution (I Think) for putting your App in the store is just one of those things, unless of course you make it completely free!
Dave
P.S Have you started your "Healthy Living" phase after returning from Prague yet, or are you going to live the rest of your life as an "I Don't Care-ist"... lol! At least until after Christmas!
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I looked at that. There seemed to be extra charges (not them) for compiling if you didn't have an apple,plus you needed a fee to apple to put it on the shop. I thought it was not worth it as android was free and better than IOS.
Al
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On Mon, Nov 24, 2014 at 1:35 PM, Dave Crozier <DaveC@flexipol.co.uk> wrote:
> P.S Have you started your "Healthy Living" phase after returning from
> Prague yet, or are you going to live the rest of your life as an "I Don't
> Care-ist"... lol! At least until after Christmas!
>
> Make a wild guess.. LOL
A+
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To be honest, I don't like apple. I don't like being controlled by them.
As for the regime, Prague only put on 2lbs so I should be back on course
soon. Now Christmas is another thing.
I like the idea of a VFPers Prague trip. Or for that matter anywhere. Maybe
we can persuade Andy to hold one in India
Al
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Dave,
I know you've already explained this before, but could you repeat how
you came to the conclusion that B4Android (or the other variations) was
the platform you wanted to jump to from VFP?
I'm in a similar situation now where I'm good with using VFP as a fat
client for Windows desktops, but tablets and phones are becoming more
and more desirable (and useful) for some of the tasks my fat-app does.
(I hear the wolves at the door and realize I can't ignore them forever.)
Thanks to others on this list I've also been making a serious effort
towards Python, but I confess I like the fences that VFP provides
(single IDE, lots of ways to do stuff, but a core VFP-way to do it.)
While Python is obviously flexible and powerful, I feel like I'm
standing in a huge open prairie with no idea which way to go.
Not looking for extensive reporting of your investigation prior to
choosing B4Android, just a succinct sales pitch (besides the obvious
price advantages!)
Thanks for anything you care to share.
Mike Copeland
Dave Crozier wrote:
> Those of you who were either interested in or actually purchased/downloaded the Basic4Android software that i rate very highly will be glad to know (Hopefully) that the equivalent software for i(devices) is now available for a limited time on a 2 year special discounted offer (All updates).
>
> The iDE runs on a standard PC and you can either develop using a cloud based MacOSX environment or using a Local MAC with the iOS device attached.
>
> I have just converted over my Stock Application here at Flexipol onto iOS in about 2 hours and that time included setting up the IDE for the first time!
>
> Now that the same environment/language is available for Android, iOS and Jave (B4J is COMPLETELY FREE!!!) it opens up a huge marketplace for developers.
>
> http://www.basic4ppc.com/index.html All versions and free test downloads are available from here.
>
> B4i is available at: http://www.basic4ppc.com/android/b4i.html for $99 with 2 years updates and $125 if you want to use the Hosted Mac Builder.
>
> Definitely Recommended
>
> Dave
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On 03/12/2014 04:23, Mike Copeland wrote:
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> standing in a huge open prairie with no idea which way to go.
+1
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On Tue, Dec 2, 2014 at 9:29 PM, AndyHC <jarndice@gmail.com> wrote:
> On 03/12/2014 04:23, Mike Copeland wrote:
>
>> ... While Python is obviously flexible and powerful, I feel like I'm
>> standing in a huge open prairie with no idea which way to go.
>>
> +1
>
I've never made it much past Hello World.... maybe a simple form with an
"ok' button on it...
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Hi foxgang
I tried it, well purchased it a while ago when Dave first mentioned it. But
recently I tried to make a simple app that called a web service and display
the reply. Ok I did some basic way back so I have some idea. But with
searches for what I needed it was fairly easy to do. So I now have my app on
the phone working in a few hours.
BTW it is not a replacement for VFP, it's an Android development so will not
take over your VFP development. However you can easily make web services in
VFP or .net that you can call.
Al
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Great feedback, Al.
Much thanks.
Given the constraints of a cellphone (4") or tablet (10") I'm not
thinking "port my Windows app to Android." But my clients want things
like a way for an employee who is not near a desktop computer to look up
inventory availability, prices, maybe even look up and email-forward an
invoice to a customer. With 4G cellphone throughput now being so
widespread, all of these functions have significant value and use. Some
of my competition have been adding such things to their offerings and my
customers are starting to ask Qs.
By the way, probably the biggest kick in the butt for me was last week
when on vacation. We were in a Nike Factory Outlet store and they were
using some incredible little battery operated Verifone gadgets...about
the size of a barcode inventory scanner to process sales. NO CASH
REGISTER (if you were paying by CCard.) They just scanned the
merchandise barcodes, then swiped your CCard, then had you sign with
your fingernail. If you wanted a printed receipt, there were a couple of
thermal printers nearby that were shared by all the terminals, or they
could email it to you. The best part was that the employee could process
CCard sales (which are 90% or more of all sales) anywhere in the
building, or in front of the building on the sidewalk, in seconds, with
one hand and no cord.
Okay, obviously I don't get out of the office enough, but THAT kind of
technology on a tablet is doable with a Square reader. The hard part for
my applications is that I need to capture name, address, phone, and
copious notes about delivery, so there will be SOME tap-typing (or voice
input...).
Most impressive to me about B4Android is that the company seems to be
aggressively moving forward, although appearances can be deceiving.
Thanks again.
Mike
Allen wrote:
> Hi foxgang
> I tried it, well purchased it a while ago when Dave first mentioned it. But
> recently I tried to make a simple app that called a web service and display
> the reply. Ok I did some basic way back so I have some idea. But with
> searches for what I needed it was fairly easy to do. So I now have my app on
> the phone working in a few hours.
> BTW it is not a replacement for VFP, it's an Android development so will not
> take over your VFP development. However you can easily make web services in
> VFP or .net that you can call.
> Al
>
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