Author: Ted Roche
Posted: 2012-12-14 06:21:41 Link
Just thought I'd throw a little raw meat in the shark tank on this lovely
Friday. Please digest and discuss...
http://www.zdnet.com/windows-has-fallen-behind-apple-ios-and-google-android-7000008699/
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Author: Alan Bourke
Posted: 2012-12-14 07:02:24 Link
On Fri, Dec 14, 2012, at 12:21 PM, Ted Roche wrote:
> Just thought I'd throw a little raw meat in the shark tank on this lovely
> Friday. Please digest and discuss...
>
> http://www.zdnet.com/windows-has-fallen-behind-apple-ios-and-google-android-7000008699/
>
In the consumer space I don't think it's anything we didn't know
already, is it? Windows will remain dominant in the business space
because the applications businesses need for the most part only exist on
Windows.
I have to say that IMO Apple were lucky to get a head-start with iOS
because IMO compared to recent versions of Android and mobile Windows
it's a distinct third place in terms of usability and design.
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Author: Ted Roche
Posted: 2012-12-14 07:27:26 Link
On Fri, Dec 14, 2012 at 8:02 AM, Alan Bourke <alanpbourke@fastmail.fm>wrote:
>
> In the consumer space I don't think it's anything we didn't know
> already, is it? Windows will remain dominant in the business space
> because the applications businesses need for the most part only exist on
> Windows.
>
For "rich-client" desktop apps, yes. But what about web-enabled apps? What
does a Web Connect app care about whether the browser access it is Chrome
on Android, Safari on iOS or IE9 on W8?
Heads-down data entry needs a keyboard, but I wonder if there are a lot of
apps that will work just as well with touch and gesture.
I have to say that IMO Apple were lucky to get a head-start with iOS
>
I think they had that "Vision" thing. Apple started out with a music player
and an idea of a Macintosh as the center of the "digital lifestyle" and the
market took them places.
> because IMO compared to recent versions of Android and mobile Windows
> it's a distinct third place in terms of usability and design.
>
Really? Can you offer specifics? I don't use a lot of mobile. I'm mostly a
Linux laptop guy and just flub around with an Android tablet.
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Author: Alan Bourke
Posted: 2012-12-14 07:36:23 Link
On Fri, Dec 14, 2012, at 01:27 PM, Ted Roche wrote:
>
> For "rich-client" desktop apps, yes. But what about web-enabled apps?
> What
> does a Web Connect app care about whether the browser access it is Chrome
> on Android, Safari on iOS or IE9 on W8?
Well, it doesn't, but I'm still not seeing a whole lot of them. It's the
infrastructure as well - the whole Windows Server ecosystem might cost a
packet, tie you in to Microsoft, yada yada yada but it's still
compelling in terms of functionality and management.
>
> Really? Can you offer specifics? I don't use a lot of mobile. I'm mostly
> a
> Linux laptop guy and just flub around with an Android tablet.
Only based on daily usage of an iPad/iPod and Android smartphone. iOS on
the iPad is great in some ways but .. mobile Safari seems to crash to
desktop regularly when presented with image-heavy pages, you can't jump
to the top or bottom of a long page without 20 seconds of flicking, lots
of the apps persist with this skeumorphic nonsense where an application
that presents things you can read has to look like a wooden bookshelf.
The mail application has to have the account I use set up from scratch
periodically as it stops retrieving IMAP mail for no reason that I can
discern. Android is not without its faults of course but at least I
could root the phone and install Cyanogen or a number of other user
interfaces.
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Author: Jean Laeremans
Posted: 2012-12-14 08:52:43 Link
Nexus 4, 7 & 10. All very well made and Google sells them at give-away prices...
No-brainer Android will prevail. ;)
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Author: Stephen Russell
Posted: 2012-12-14 09:32:00 Link
On Fri, Dec 14, 2012 at 8:52 AM, Jean Laeremans <
laeremans.jeanmarie@gmail.com> wrote:
> Nexus 4, 7 & 10. All very well made and Google sells them at give-away
> prices...
> No-brainer Android will prevail. ;)-------------
>
Got my son a Nexus 7 for his birthday and he loves it.
They are pretty cheap compared to iAnything and may take over the
foundation of education for HS / U going forward.
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Author: Allen
Posted: 2012-12-14 11:30:23 Link
That's my feelings too. Don't like it.
Al
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I have to say that IMO Apple were lucky to get a head-start with iOS
because IMO compared to recent versions of Android and mobile Windows
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Author: Allen
Posted: 2012-12-14 11:34:56 Link
I think the 10 is only single core so not very fast. The 4 I know nothing
about. The 7 however is a fast machine, latest android unlike Samsung's poor
effort. The reason I didn't get one, and I was looking, is the lack of
camera and the lack of SD slot. I know the camera wont bother you JM but
sometimes its handy to have one on the tablet.
Al
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Nexus 4, 7 & 10. All very well made and Google sells them at give-away
prices...
No-brainer Android will prevail. ;)
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Author: M Jarvis
Posted: 2012-12-14 11:41:32 Link
On Fri, Dec 14, 2012 at 5:27 AM, Ted Roche <tedroche@gmail.com> wrote:
> What does a Web Connect app care about whether the browser access it is Chrome
> on Android, Safari on iOS or IE9 on W8?
Because either the a) doofus developer is browser centric mindset
and/or b) the browser is 'compliant' in that they have their OWN
standards, but at least they publish them.... sometimes.... kinda...
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Author: Jean Laeremans
Posted: 2012-12-14 11:48:05 Link
Well Al it does have camera albeit not a very good one and the lack of an
SD card is compensated by USB otg
A+
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On 14 Dec 2012 18:35, "Allen" <profox@gatwicksoftware.com> wrote:
> I think the 10 is only single core so not very fast. The 4 I know nothing
> about. The 7 however is a fast machine, latest android unlike Samsung's
> poor effort. The reason I didn't get one, and I was looking, is the lack of
> camera and the lack of SD slot. I know the camera wont bother you JM but
> sometimes its handy to have one on the tablet.
>
> Al
>
> -----Original Message----- From: Jean Laeremans
>
> Nexus 4, 7 & 10. All very well made and Google sells them at give-away
> prices...
> No-brainer Android will prevail. ;)
>
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