My hardware skills and knowledge are woefully out of date... I've been
tasked with spec'ing out a new web server for our intranet. Our
current one is something like 12 years old, running out of space, and
frankly our big fear is that it will just up and die some day soon.
Mostly it just stores documents and runs some queries, does some light
web form work, nothing terribly demanding. What makes it so special is
that it is a mission critical machine (hospitals love their
documentation).
We have plans to virtualize servers down the road, but there is time
pressure to do something with this server right now.
It specs out as: Win2K, SP4, x86 AT box, 523K RAM, Seagate drive
partitioned as C: (4 gig - OS), D: (13 gig - data/other).
We have a media server available so the replacement won't have to do
much serving of streaming media or other heavy lifting.
I want to migrate the functionality to a CMS such as Drupal or
similar, so one of my concerns is to have enough horsepower to run the
CMS in addition to the documents etc that are on the machine. It would
be great to get a document management system in place as well but so
far that hasn't come up in this go-around.
What sort of size and capabilities should I be looking for? Bigger and
Faster sure, but what are folks putting into/on servers these days?
We're a windows shop (other than our phone system) so I'm stuck with
running that.
I'm hoping to gather some ideas then pass this off to our network guy
to do the actual pricing and ordering.
TIA,
--
Matt Jarvis
Eugene, Oregon USA
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If it is just a file server, I recommend webfaction (recommended to me by someone on this list). They recently offered
an upgrade to 100gb for the same low price.
Depending on how many people have to access it, you might check out a VPS. Some like infinitelyvirtual will 'rent'
terminal server licenses. It is reasonable for a small number of users, not sure if they have volume discounts. I like
this because if you run out of power, you can simply add memory or CPU cores and disk space. For us it was much less
expensive than continuing to maintain our own servers in house. Also, you access with RDP which means you can get full
speed performance with your old win2000 computers.
Outsourcing has set me free. I no longer have to worry about the servers going down when I am not there.
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Subject: [NF] web server specs
My hardware skills and knowledge are woefully out of date... I've been
tasked with spec'ing out a new web server for our intranet. Our
current one is something like 12 years old, running out of space, and
frankly our big fear is that it will just up and die some day soon.
Mostly it just stores documents and runs some queries, does some light
web form work, nothing terribly demanding. What makes it so special is
that it is a mission critical machine (hospitals love their
documentation).
We have plans to virtualize servers down the road, but there is time
pressure to do something with this server right now.
It specs out as: Win2K, SP4, x86 AT box, 523K RAM, Seagate drive
partitioned as C: (4 gig - OS), D: (13 gig - data/other).
We have a media server available so the replacement won't have to do
much serving of streaming media or other heavy lifting.
I want to migrate the functionality to a CMS such as Drupal or
similar, so one of my concerns is to have enough horsepower to run the
CMS in addition to the documents etc that are on the machine. It would
be great to get a document management system in place as well but so
far that hasn't come up in this go-around.
What sort of size and capabilities should I be looking for? Bigger and
Faster sure, but what are folks putting into/on servers these days?
We're a windows shop (other than our phone system) so I'm stuck with
running that.
I'm hoping to gather some ideas then pass this off to our network guy
to do the actual pricing and ordering.
TIA,
--
Matt Jarvis
Eugene, Oregon USA
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On Jul 24, 2012, at 11:48 AM, M Jarvis wrote:
> What sort of size and capabilities should I be looking for? Bigger and
> Faster sure, but what are folks putting into/on servers these days?
> We're a windows shop (other than our phone system) so I'm stuck with
> running that.
I'd recommend using a virtual server in the cloud for two main reasons: you don't have to worry about maintaining hardware, and you get a ton of redundancy in things like power supply and networking. Of course, my preference is the Rackspace Cloud, where you can get a Windows server for under $60/month, but there are other cloud providers out there to choose from.
-- Ed Leafe
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> If it is just a file server, I recommend webfaction (recommended to me by someone on this list). They recently offered
an upgrade to 100gb for the same low price.
+1 (I'm a big fan of webfaction ... hard to justify a dedicated server
unless you expect super high traffic)
Malcolm
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On Tue, Jul 24, 2012 at 11:48 AM, M Jarvis <brewdaddy@gmail.com> wrote:
> My hardware skills and knowledge are woefully out of date... I've been
> tasked with spec'ing out a new web server for our intranet. Our
> current one is something like 12 years old, running out of space, and
> frankly our big fear is that it will just up and die some day soon.
>
> Mostly it just stores documents and runs some queries, does some light
> web form work, nothing terribly demanding. What makes it so special is
> that it is a mission critical machine (hospitals love their
> documentation).
>
> We have plans to virtualize servers down the road, but there is time
> pressure to do something with this server right now.
>
> It specs out as: Win2K, SP4, x86 AT box, 523K RAM, Seagate drive
> partitioned as C: (4 gig - OS), D: (13 gig - data/other).
>
> We have a media server available so the replacement won't have to do
> much serving of streaming media or other heavy lifting.
>
> I want to migrate the functionality to a CMS such as Drupal or
> similar, so one of my concerns is to have enough horsepower to run the
> CMS in addition to the documents etc that are on the machine. It would
> be great to get a document management system in place as well but so
> far that hasn't come up in this go-around.
>
> What sort of size and capabilities should I be looking for? Bigger and
> Faster sure, but what are folks putting into/on servers these days?
> We're a windows shop (other than our phone system) so I'm stuck with
> running that.
>
> I'm hoping to gather some ideas then pass this off to our network guy
> to do the actual pricing and ordering.
------------------------
Ask for a virtual off of the system that they do all allocations from.
No need for a fixed Web server. The files just go to an File server right?
--
Stephen Russell
Sr. Analyst
Ring Container Technology
Oakland TN
901.246-0159 cell
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> I'd recommend using a virtual server in the cloud for two main reasons: you don't have to worry about maintaining hardware, and you get a ton of redundancy in things like power supply and networking. Of course, my preference is the Rackspace Cloud, where you can get a Windows server for under $60/month, but there are other cloud providers out there to choose from.
> -- Ed Leafe
I'd be all over going to the cloud for this, but I just double checked
and have an unofficial 'official' requirement for this to be hardware
onsite here at the hospital. Comfort level for putting this elsewhere
just isn't there, and it's the comfy people with the checkbook.
Plus I'd rather have one less server around here sucking down that
much power and heating up our data center that much more...
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Eugene, Oregon USA
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On Jul 24, 2012, at 1:24 PM, M Jarvis wrote:
> I'd be all over going to the cloud for this, but I just double checked
> and have an unofficial 'official' requirement for this to be hardware
> onsite here at the hospital. Comfort level for putting this elsewhere
> just isn't there, and it's the comfy people with the checkbook.
He who has the gold makes the rules, right?
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On Tue, Jul 24, 2012 at 11:28 AM, Ed Leafe <ed@leafe.com> wrote:
> He who has the gold makes the rules, right?
> -- Ed Leafe
You got it bro...
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You might take a look at IBM System x3200 M3. You should be able to
configure one that is just right for your needs.
http://www.redbooks.ibm.com/abstracts/tips0802.html?Open
Regards,
LelandJ
http://www.redbooks.ibm.com/abstracts/tips0802.html?Open
On 07/24/2012 11:48 AM, M Jarvis wrote:
> My hardware skills and knowledge are woefully out of date... I've been
> tasked with spec'ing out a new web server for our intranet. Our
> current one is something like 12 years old, running out of space, and
> frankly our big fear is that it will just up and die some day soon.
>
> Mostly it just stores documents and runs some queries, does some light
> web form work, nothing terribly demanding. What makes it so special is
> that it is a mission critical machine (hospitals love their
> documentation).
>
> We have plans to virtualize servers down the road, but there is time
> pressure to do something with this server right now.
>
> It specs out as: Win2K, SP4, x86 AT box, 523K RAM, Seagate drive
> partitioned as C: (4 gig - OS), D: (13 gig - data/other).
>
> We have a media server available so the replacement won't have to do
> much serving of streaming media or other heavy lifting.
>
> I want to migrate the functionality to a CMS such as Drupal or
> similar, so one of my concerns is to have enough horsepower to run the
> CMS in addition to the documents etc that are on the machine. It would
> be great to get a document management system in place as well but so
> far that hasn't come up in this go-around.
>
> What sort of size and capabilities should I be looking for? Bigger and
> Faster sure, but what are folks putting into/on servers these days?
> We're a windows shop (other than our phone system) so I'm stuck with
> running that.
>
> I'm hoping to gather some ideas then pass this off to our network guy
> to do the actual pricing and ordering.
>
> TIA,
>
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This might help:
http://www-304.ibm.com/shop/americas/content/home/store_IBMPublicUSA/en_US/cto/x3200m3.html
Regards,
LelandJ
On 07/24/2012 04:59 PM, Leland Jackson wrote:
> You might take a look at IBM System x3200 M3. You should be able to
> configure one that is just right for your needs.
>
> http://www.redbooks.ibm.com/abstracts/tips0802.html?Open
>
> Regards,
>
> LelandJ
>
>
> http://www.redbooks.ibm.com/abstracts/tips0802.html?Open
>
>
>
> On 07/24/2012 11:48 AM, M Jarvis wrote:
>> My hardware skills and knowledge are woefully out of date... I've been
>> tasked with spec'ing out a new web server for our intranet. Our
>> current one is something like 12 years old, running out of space, and
>> frankly our big fear is that it will just up and die some day soon.
>>
>> Mostly it just stores documents and runs some queries, does some light
>> web form work, nothing terribly demanding. What makes it so special is
>> that it is a mission critical machine (hospitals love their
>> documentation).
>>
>> We have plans to virtualize servers down the road, but there is time
>> pressure to do something with this server right now.
>>
>> It specs out as: Win2K, SP4, x86 AT box, 523K RAM, Seagate drive
>> partitioned as C: (4 gig - OS), D: (13 gig - data/other).
>>
>> We have a media server available so the replacement won't have to do
>> much serving of streaming media or other heavy lifting.
>>
>> I want to migrate the functionality to a CMS such as Drupal or
>> similar, so one of my concerns is to have enough horsepower to run the
>> CMS in addition to the documents etc that are on the machine. It would
>> be great to get a document management system in place as well but so
>> far that hasn't come up in this go-around.
>>
>> What sort of size and capabilities should I be looking for? Bigger and
>> Faster sure, but what are folks putting into/on servers these days?
>> We're a windows shop (other than our phone system) so I'm stuck with
>> running that.
>>
>> I'm hoping to gather some ideas then pass this off to our network guy
>> to do the actual pricing and ordering.
>>
>> TIA,
>>
>
>
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