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2012-06-01 09:22 – Stephen Russell : [NF] Let the bitching begin
2012-06-01 10:48 – John Harvey : RE: [NF] Let the bitching begin
2012-06-01 11:24 – Alan Bourke : Re: [NF] Let the bitching begin
2012-06-01 12:46 – MB Software Solutions, LLC : Re: [NF] Let the bitching begin
2012-06-01 12:51 – Stephen Russell : Re: [NF] Let the bitching begin
2012-06-01 22:18 – Dan Covill : Re: [NF] Let the bitching begin
2012-06-01 22:43 – MB Software Solutions, LLC : Re: [NF] Let the bitching begin
2012-06-01 23:47 – Ed Leafe : Re: [NF] Let the bitching begin
2012-06-02 02:48 – Jean Laeremans : Re: [NF] Let the bitching begin
2012-06-02 03:10 – Allen : RE: [NF] Let the bitching begin
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[NF] Let the bitching begin

Author: Stephen Russell

Posted: 2012-06-01 09:22:16   Link

<http://windows.microsoft.com/en-US/windows-8/release-preview?ocid=C_RM_W8R_NEWSLETTER_EN-US>

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RE: [NF] Let the bitching begin

Author: John Harvey

Posted: 2012-06-01 10:48:53   Link

Did it ever stop?

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Re: [NF] Let the bitching begin

Author: Alan Bourke

Posted: 2012-06-01 11:24:50   Link

Have it in a VM. Still completely unconvinced that the Metro overlay

will make any sense for serious desktop users, especially in the

corporate world. Once you get back to the desktop, I can't see any

changes that would compel you to move from Windows 7.

So for me Microsoft realise this and I think their main focus is on the

ARM version, and touch-screen devices.

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Re: [NF] Let the bitching begin

Author: MB Software Solutions, LLC

Posted: 2012-06-01 12:46:46   Link

On 6/1/2012 12:24 PM, Alan Bourke wrote:

> Have it in a VM. Still completely unconvinced that the Metro overlay

> will make any sense for serious desktop users, especially in the

> corporate world. Once you get back to the desktop, I can't see any

> changes that would compel you to move from Windows 7.

>

> So for me Microsoft realise this and I think their main focus is on the

> ARM version, and touch-screen devices.

Notice how the song kept saying "in the cloud." They're hammering on

that marketing hype.

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Re: [NF] Let the bitching begin

Author: Stephen Russell

Posted: 2012-06-01 12:51:07   Link

On Fri, Jun 1, 2012 at 11:24 AM, Alan Bourke <alanpbourke@fastmail.fm> wrote:

> Have it in a VM. Still completely unconvinced that the Metro overlay

> will make any sense for serious desktop users, especially in the

> corporate world. Once you get back to the desktop, I can't see any

> changes that would compel you to move from Windows 7.

>

> So for me Microsoft realise this and I think their main focus is on the

> ARM version, and touch-screen devices.

> --

---------------

I asked my mgr to get a display for touch. She is thinking about it

when I said that Win8 can use it and we can develop for it with HTML5.

I see a new workflow to get a COA, Certificate of Analysis, for our

products when a truck is going out the door. We will no longer print

a pdf and staple it to a BOL for the receiving customer to keep.

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Re: [NF] Let the bitching begin

Author: Dan Covill

Posted: 2012-06-01 22:18:02   Link

On 06/01/12 09:24, Alan Bourke wrote:

> Have it in a VM. Still completely unconvinced that the Metro overlay

> will make any sense for serious desktop users, especially in the

> corporate world. Once you get back to the desktop, I can't see any

> changes that would compel you to move from Windows 7.

>

> So for me Microsoft realise this and I think their main focus is on the

> ARM version, and touch-screen devices.

It does seem obvious that the Metro version is not seriously intended

for use by desktop business applications. Combine that with the fact

that their first release was a 'Developer Preview', and I conclude that

the primary reason for Metro was to provide a development environment

for portable devices.

Unfortunately, in the rush to the Cloud/Pad market, it seems several

things got left out of the business-as-usual half of things.

I foresee a long Win 7 period, followed by a leapfrog over Win 8 to

whatever follows it.

Dan Covill

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Re: [NF] Let the bitching begin

Author: MB Software Solutions, LLC

Posted: 2012-06-01 22:43:40   Link

On 6/1/2012 11:18 PM, Dan Covill wrote:

> I foresee a long Win 7 period, followed by a leapfrog over Win 8 to

> whatever follows it.

In other words, the same as usual pattern of adoption.

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Re: [NF] Let the bitching begin

Author: Ed Leafe

Posted: 2012-06-01 23:47:40   Link

On Jun 1, 2012, at 10:18 PM, Dan Covill wrote:

> It does seem obvious that the Metro version is not seriously intended

> for use by desktop business applications. Combine that with the fact

> that their first release was a 'Developer Preview', and I conclude that

> the primary reason for Metro was to provide a development environment

> for portable devices.

The central problem is that Microsoft is trying to create a touch-centric interface when the majority of devices out there don't support touch. Apple, in contrast, started pushing trackpads and touch mice a few years ago, and then started to move OS X to be more like the iOS. I'm running Lion, and have long ago ditched my mice for trackpads, and I find that I'm now much faster using gestures because I've had years to get used to the concept. The gestures that I use on my trackpad in OS X are the same that I use on my iOS devices; if I were using a mouse with a scroll wheel, it wouldn't be anywhere near as easy.

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Re: [NF] Let the bitching begin

Author: Jean Laeremans

Posted: 2012-06-02 02:48:13   Link

> using a mouse with a scroll wheel

That's so last century..

A+

jml

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RE: [NF] Let the bitching begin

Author: Allen

Posted: 2012-06-02 03:10:01   Link

About time kinect worked on pc's so you can look like a complete idiot

Al

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> using a mouse with a scroll wheel

That's so last century..

A+

jml

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