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2012-05-07 16:37MB Software Solutions, LLC : Started learning C# today
2012-05-07 16:52Tracy Pearson : RE: Started learning C# today
2012-05-07 16:58Stephen Russell : Re: Started learning C# today
2012-05-07 17:51Christina Bull : RE: Started learning C# today
2012-05-07 18:21Dan Covill : Re: Started learning C# today
2012-05-07 19:07Christina Bull : RE: Started learning C# today
2012-05-08 02:22Alan Bourke : Re: Started learning C# today
2012-05-08 02:42Allen : RE: Started learning C# today
2012-05-08 04:40AndyD : Re: Re: Started learning C# today
2012-05-08 05:07Alan Bourke : Re: Started learning C# today
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Started learning C# today

Author: MB Software Solutions, LLC

Posted: 2012-05-07 16:37:12   Link

Day gig gave me subscription to LearnDevNow.com. It's the old AppDev

guys! Ken Getz (who did VB and/or VFP videos back in the 90s) and

Robert Green. Every time I see Robert Green's name, it makes me think

of the guy who was recommending I learn Visual InterDev at a time when

it was old and quickly becoming obsolete, and the guy who said the VFP

Report Writer would never be updated. Hmmmm....we all make mistakes.

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RE: Started learning C# today

Author: Tracy Pearson

Posted: 2012-05-07 16:52:17   Link

MB Software Solutions, LLC wrote on 2012-05-07:

> Day gig gave me subscription to LearnDevNow.com. It's the old AppDev

> guys! Ken Getz (who did VB and/or VFP videos back in the 90s) and

> Robert Green. Every time I see Robert Green's name, it makes me think

> of the guy who was recommending I learn Visual InterDev at a time when

> it was old and quickly becoming obsolete, and the guy who said the VFP

> Report Writer would never be updated. Hmmmm....we all make mistakes.

Mike,

Check out PluralSight.com too.

May your learning be quick.

Tracy Pearson

PowerChurch Software

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Re: Started learning C# today

Author: Stephen Russell

Posted: 2012-05-07 16:58:34   Link

On Mon, May 7, 2012 at 4:37 PM, MB Software Solutions, LLC

<mbsoftwaresolutions@mbsoftwaresolutions.com> wrote:

> Day gig gave me subscription to LearnDevNow.com.  It's the old AppDev

> guys!  Ken Getz (who did VB and/or VFP videos back in the 90s) and

> Robert Green.  Every time I see Robert Green's name, it makes me think

> of the guy who was recommending I learn Visual InterDev at a time when

> it was old and quickly becoming obsolete, and the guy who said the VFP

> Report Writer would never be updated.  Hmmmm....we all make mistakes.

>

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That is awesome. I used LearnVisualStudio.net when it was the other

guy in town back 2003. I got the lifetime subscription for 99.

The hardest thing I faced was thinking that VFP was like every other language.

C# is pretty wide in scope so what are you going to try to do first?

Win forms, Web forms, WPF, WCF?

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RE: Started learning C# today

Author: Christina Bull

Posted: 2012-05-07 17:51:47   Link

I shook hands with my husband last night and promised that by September 1st,

I too would start learning C#.

I just checked out LearnDevNow.com and the special they are running at the

moment looks very good. $99 for annual subscription instead of $349... I

might just subscribe. I've already been to http://tinyurl.com/ch768jr and

downloaded some manuals but they've been sitting on the hard drive untouched

now for ages...

Will be interested in how your fair Mike with the skills transfer - I think

that's what is holding me up from making the shift - I don't like the idea

of knowing what I "want" to do in code, but having to re-learn "how" to do

it.

Keep me posted :-)

Christina Bull

DataHouse

www.datahouse.com.au

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From: MB Software Solutions, LLC

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Sent: Tuesday, 8 May 2012 7:37 AM

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Subject: Started learning C# today

Day gig gave me subscription to LearnDevNow.com. It's the old AppDev guys!

Ken Getz (who did VB and/or VFP videos back in the 90s) and Robert Green.

Every time I see Robert Green's name, it makes me think of the guy who was

recommending I learn Visual InterDev at a time when it was old and quickly

becoming obsolete, and the guy who said the VFP Report Writer would never be

updated. Hmmmm....we all make mistakes.

--

Mike Babcock, MCP

MB Software Solutions, LLC

President, Chief Software Architect

http://mbsoftwaresolutions.com

http://fabmate.com

http://twitter.com/mbabcock16

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Re: Started learning C# today

Author: Dan Covill

Posted: 2012-05-07 18:21:57   Link

On 05/07/12 15:51, Christina Bull wrote:

> Will be interested in how your fair Mike with the skills transfer - I think

> that's what is holding me up from making the shift - I don't like the idea

> of knowing what I "want" to do in code, but having to re-learn "how" to do

> it.

Hi, Christina

Stop worrying about and just do it. Learning new syntax is a pain at

first, but it's really pretty easy. Knowing what you "want" to do in

the code is the hard part, and you've already got that whipped!

I've been doing this since 1958, through assembler, JOVIAL, COBOL,

ALGOL, APL, FORTRAN, BASIC, C, dBASE and FoxPro, and I can tell you that

while the mechanics change, the underlying job of designing a program to

do what you need to get done does not. Good luck!

Dan

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RE: Started learning C# today

Author: Christina Bull

Posted: 2012-05-07 19:07:08   Link

Great advice Dan! You speak sense... thanks :-)

Christina Bull

DataHouse

0414 576 453

www.datahouse.com.au

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Sent: Tuesday, 8 May 2012 9:22 AM

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Subject: Re: Started learning C# today

On 05/07/12 15:51, Christina Bull wrote:

> Will be interested in how your fair Mike with the skills transfer - I

> think that's what is holding me up from making the shift - I don't

> like the idea of knowing what I "want" to do in code, but having to

> re-learn "how" to do it.

Hi, Christina

Stop worrying about and just do it. Learning new syntax is a pain at first,

but it's really pretty easy. Knowing what you "want" to do in the code is

the hard part, and you've already got that whipped!

I've been doing this since 1958, through assembler, JOVIAL, COBOL, ALGOL,

APL, FORTRAN, BASIC, C, dBASE and FoxPro, and I can tell you that while the

mechanics change, the underlying job of designing a program to do what you

need to get done does not. Good luck!

Dan

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Re: Started learning C# today

Author: Alan Bourke

Posted: 2012-05-08 02:22:42   Link

Good luck - if you have any familiarity at all with Java or C you'll

have a headstart. .NET is a very, very broad church so don't get put off

by that fact.

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RE: Started learning C# today

Author: Allen

Posted: 2012-05-08 02:42:35   Link

I'm not convinced by these leaning online. There is no feedback, your told

and that's it. But mainly, do you remember your first VFP lesson. Well I

believe to learn something like C# for example, you need a reason. In other

words you need to have something you want to write. This is how I did it. I

was in need of writing a web service not doable in VFP so I had to use C#.

C# is not far removed from other languages but you need to know how to do

stuff that in VFP was so easy, and C# so hard. Best way is to start a

project you need to do and find out as you go how to do it. Bing subjects

(yes I know will stop using google after I spotted that they share searches

with faceache) you need to know and even ask here. Steve is a great guy who

has helped me no end with this stuff on and off list. In other words just do

it. You will get it and if you have been programming for a while it will

make sense. But I think these online lessons will be a waste of money.

Al

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I shook hands with my husband last night and promised that by September 1st,

I too would start learning C#.

I just checked out LearnDevNow.com and the special they are running at the

moment looks very good. $99 for annual subscription instead of $349... I

might just subscribe. I've already been to http://tinyurl.com/ch768jr and

downloaded some manuals but they've been sitting on the hard drive untouched

now for ages...

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Re: Re: Started learning C# today

Author: AndyD

Posted: 2012-05-08 04:40:26   Link

I played with C# when it first came out and got as far as linking to a

VFP com object, but then the day job intervened.

I recently decided to have another go. I bought the ms books (much

cheaper in India) - but I found them a bit daunting so I decided to

split the learning task into two parts: the syntax and the API. For a

refresher on C syntax I downloaded LCC for Windows and I was very

impressed (there is a tutorial included), for someone who learned C in

the dumb terminal days it was a real eye-opener.

For those moving from FoxPro there used to be a VFP library for C# -

anyone know if it's still available and functioning?

AndyD 8-)₹

On 07/05/2012 22:58, Stephen Russell wrote:

> On Mon, May 7, 2012 at 4:37 PM, MB Software Solutions, LLC

> <mbsoftwaresolutions@mbsoftwaresolutions.com> wrote:

<snip>

> The hardest thing I faced was thinking that VFP was like every other

> language. C# is pretty wide in scope so what are you going to try to

> do first? Win forms, Web forms, WPF, WCF?

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Re: Started learning C# today

Author: Alan Bourke

Posted: 2012-05-08 05:07:49   Link

On Tue, May 8, 2012, at 10:40 AM, AndyD wrote:

> For those moving from FoxPro there used to be a VFP library for C# -

> anyone know if it's still available and functioning?

http://foxcentral.net/microsoft/vfptoolkitnet.htm

Should still work fine although it hasn't been updated in 10 years.

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