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2012-03-06 15:27 – Rick Schummer : Southwest Fox and Southwest Xbase++ 2012
2012-03-06 16:04 – MB Software Solutions, LLC : Re: Southwest Fox and Southwest Xbase++ 2012
2012-03-06 16:28 – Rick Schummer : RE: Southwest Fox and Southwest Xbase++ 2012
2012-03-06 17:01 – MB Software Solutions, LLC : Re: Southwest Fox and Southwest Xbase++ 2012
2012-03-07 01:46 – Paul Hill : Re: Southwest Fox and Southwest Xbase++ 2012
2012-03-08 08:58 – Rick Schummer : RE: Southwest Fox and Southwest Xbase++ 2012
2012-03-08 09:07 – Thierry Nivelet : Re: Southwest Fox and Southwest Xbase++ 2012
2012-03-08 09:36 – Jerry Foote : RE: Southwest Fox and Southwest Xbase++ 2012
2012-03-08 10:36 – Man-wai Chang : Re: Southwest Fox and Southwest Xbase++ 2012
2012-03-08 10:49 – MB Software Solutions, LLC : Re: Southwest Fox and Southwest Xbase++ 2012
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Southwest Fox and Southwest Xbase++ 2012

Author: Rick Schummer

Posted: 2012-03-06 15:27:26   Link

Save the dates for Southwest Fox and Southwest Xbase++ 2012! The conferences take place October 18-21, 2012.

This year we have two conferences as one great event at the same location. Southwest Fox has always served Visual FoxPro

developers an opportunity to learn and extend their skills, and network with fellow developers. Alaska Software is

working on PolarFox, a product that keeps the Visual FoxPro language alive in their next generation tool. You get two

conferences for the price of one!

The conferences take place at the San Tan Elegante Conference and Reception Center, the same great location as last

year.

If you're interested in presenting at Southwest Fox 2012, please visit http://www.swfox.net/callforspeakers.aspx, read

the complete Call for Speakers document (linked from that page), and download the proposal submission application.

Session proposals are due by March 23.

Finally, if there are any topics you hope will be covered this year, please send them to info@swfox.net, right away.

Rick

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Re: Southwest Fox and Southwest Xbase++ 2012

Author: MB Software Solutions, LLC

Posted: 2012-03-06 16:04:35   Link

On 3/6/2012 4:27 PM, Rick Schummer wrote:

> Save the dates for Southwest Fox and Southwest Xbase++ 2012! The conferences take place October 18-21, 2012.

>

> This year we have two conferences as one great event at the same location. Southwest Fox has always served Visual FoxPro

> developers an opportunity to learn and extend their skills, and network with fellow developers. Alaska Software is

> working on PolarFox, a product that keeps the Visual FoxPro language alive in their next generation tool. You get two

> conferences for the price of one!

>

> The conferences take place at the San Tan Elegante Conference and Reception Center, the same great location as last

> year.

>

> If you're interested in presenting at Southwest Fox 2012, please visit http://www.swfox.net/callforspeakers.aspx, read

> the complete Call for Speakers document (linked from that page), and download the proposal submission application.

> Session proposals are due by March 23.

>

> Finally, if there are any topics you hope will be covered this year, please send them to info@swfox.net, right away.

Rick,

What were the results of the survey you sent out regarding what people

wanted to see at conference? Is that something that's available to the

public?

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RE: Southwest Fox and Southwest Xbase++ 2012

Author: Rick Schummer

Posted: 2012-03-06 16:28:55   Link

>> What were the results of the survey you sent out regarding what people wanted to see at conference? Is that

something that's available to the public?<<

We have not made public the survey results and not decided if we are going to do so, but the conference reflects

relevant opinions and majority opinions.

Hopefully you can make it this year.

Rick

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Re: Southwest Fox and Southwest Xbase++ 2012

Author: MB Software Solutions, LLC

Posted: 2012-03-06 17:01:42   Link

On 3/6/2012 5:28 PM, Rick Schummer wrote:

>>> What were the results of the survey you sent out regarding what people wanted to see at conference? Is that

> something that's available to the public?<<

>

> We have not made public the survey results and not decided if we are going to do so, but the conference reflects

> relevant opinions and majority opinions.

>

> Hopefully you can make it this year.

The Xbase++ reference kinda threw me. I'll have to look into that. Not

sure what that is.

Thanks again for all your efforts. You guys truly rock!

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Re: Southwest Fox and Southwest Xbase++ 2012

Author: Paul Hill

Posted: 2012-03-07 01:46:29   Link

On Tue, Mar 6, 2012 at 11:01 PM, MB Software Solutions, LLC

<mbsoftwaresolutions@mbsoftwaresolutions.com> wrote:

> On 3/6/2012 5:28 PM, Rick Schummer wrote:

>>>> What were the results of the survey you sent out regarding what people wanted to see at conference?  Is that

>> something that's available to the public?<<

>>

>> We have not made public the survey results and not decided if we are going to do so, but the conference reflects

>> relevant opinions and majority opinions.

>>

>> Hopefully you can make it this year.

>

> The Xbase++ reference kinda threw me.  I'll have to look into that.  Not

> sure what that is.

It's a Clipper compiler, with additional OO extensions. Much like

comparing VFP to Fox.

I use it on one of my products (which I'm re-writing in C#...), which

originally started life as a DOS Clipper app.

Be wary of Alaska. They promise the moon but deliver very little.

I've been hearing about how wonderful their upcoming version is for

about 5 years.

They seem to be targeting VFP people now, which surprises me as

Xbase++ is nowhere near as complete as VFP (no report engine, no

inline sql or views, poor designer/development tools, poor sql

passthrough, limited visual controls, ...).

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RE: Southwest Fox and Southwest Xbase++ 2012

Author: Rick Schummer

Posted: 2012-03-08 08:58:59   Link

>> They seem to be targeting VFP people now, which surprises me as Xbase++ is nowhere near as complete as VFP (no report

engine, no

inline sql or views, poor designer/development tools, poor sql passthrough, limited visual controls, ...).<<

Alaska Software is working on a transpiler to cover the entire Visual FoxPro language as well as forms, reports,

classes, etc. They have quite a bit done and are working hard to ensure the Visual FoxPro language continues on despite

Microsoft. They have a roadmap so you can understand their intent. Community Technology Preview (CTP) bits are available

too. I also know the folks at Alaska are smart people and their intentions and efforts to date seem focused on the end

goal. They also get community and how it works. They also have experience doing this with the Clipper community.

There are several companies who are trying to get VFP developers attention right now. Alaska is in the group leading the

pack and are doing it in a very visible way. The big advantage they have: developers don't have to throw everything away

to learn a new language. All your source, experience and hard won knowledge carries forward to the new world. It is a

compelling proposition and I hope they succeed in a big way.

Rick

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www.swfox.net

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Re: Southwest Fox and Southwest Xbase++ 2012

Author: Thierry Nivelet

Posted: 2012-03-08 09:07:45   Link

Excellent point, Rick.

I wish i could some day read the same regarding FoxInCloud and the ability to run an existing VFP code asset (application) on the web/cloud without rewrite and/or learning web technology.

A kid may be too new on the block?

Thierry Nivelet

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Give your VFP app a second life in the cloud

Le 8 mars 2012 à 15:58, "Rick Schummer" <profox@whitelightcomputing.com> a écrit :

>>> They seem to be targeting VFP people now, which surprises me as Xbase++ is nowhere near as complete as VFP (no report

> engine, no

> inline sql or views, poor designer/development tools, poor sql passthrough, limited visual controls, ...).<<

>

> Alaska Software is working on a transpiler to cover the entire Visual FoxPro language as well as forms, reports,

> classes, etc. They have quite a bit done and are working hard to ensure the Visual FoxPro language continues on despite

> Microsoft. They have a roadmap so you can understand their intent. Community Technology Preview (CTP) bits are available

> too. I also know the folks at Alaska are smart people and their intentions and efforts to date seem focused on the end

> goal. They also get community and how it works. They also have experience doing this with the Clipper community.

>

> There are several companies who are trying to get VFP developers attention right now. Alaska is in the group leading the

> pack and are doing it in a very visible way. The big advantage they have: developers don't have to throw everything away

> to learn a new language. All your source, experience and hard won knowledge carries forward to the new world. It is a

> compelling proposition and I hope they succeed in a big way.

>

> Rick

> White Light Computing, Inc.

>

> www.whitelightcomputing.com

> www.swfox.net

> www.rickschummer.com

>

>

>

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RE: Southwest Fox and Southwest Xbase++ 2012

Author: Jerry Foote

Posted: 2012-03-08 09:36:30   Link

Rick

Do you know if the file size has been or plan to be increased in xbase++

Jerry

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Excellent point, Rick.

I wish i could some day read the same regarding FoxInCloud and the ability

to run an existing VFP code asset (application) on the web/cloud without

rewrite and/or learning web technology.

A kid may be too new on the block?

Thierry Nivelet

http://foxincloud.com/

Give your VFP app a second life in the cloud

Le 8 mars 2012 à 15:58, "Rick Schummer" <profox@whitelightcomputing.com> a

écrit :

>>> They seem to be targeting VFP people now, which surprises me as Xbase++

is nowhere near as complete as VFP (no report

> engine, no

> inline sql or views, poor designer/development tools, poor sql

passthrough, limited visual controls, ...).<<

>

> Alaska Software is working on a transpiler to cover the entire Visual

FoxPro language as well as forms, reports,

> classes, etc. They have quite a bit done and are working hard to ensure

the Visual FoxPro language continues on despite

> Microsoft. They have a roadmap so you can understand their intent.

Community Technology Preview (CTP) bits are available

> too. I also know the folks at Alaska are smart people and their intentions

and efforts to date seem focused on the end

> goal. They also get community and how it works. They also have experience

doing this with the Clipper community.

>

> There are several companies who are trying to get VFP developers attention

right now. Alaska is in the group leading the

> pack and are doing it in a very visible way. The big advantage they have:

developers don't have to throw everything away

> to learn a new language. All your source, experience and hard won

knowledge carries forward to the new world. It is a

> compelling proposition and I hope they succeed in a big way.

>

> Rick

> White Light Computing, Inc.

>

> www.whitelightcomputing.com

> www.swfox.net

> www.rickschummer.com

>

>

>

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Re: Southwest Fox and Southwest Xbase++ 2012

Author: Man-wai Chang

Posted: 2012-03-08 10:36:25   Link

I wish to see something like a Java Runtime that directly executes VFP *.APP. :)

On Thu, Mar 8, 2012 at 10:58 PM, Rick Schummer

<profox@whitelightcomputing.com> wrote:

> Alaska Software is working on a transpiler to cover the entire Visual FoxPro language as well as forms, reports,

> classes, etc. They have quite a bit done and are working hard to ensure the Visual FoxPro language continues on despite

> Microsoft. They have a roadmap so you can understand their intent. Community Technology Preview (CTP) bits are available

> too. I also know the folks at Alaska are smart people and their intentions and efforts to date seem focused on the end

> goal. They also get community and how it works. They also have experience doing this with the Clipper community.

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Re: Southwest Fox and Southwest Xbase++ 2012

Author: MB Software Solutions, LLC

Posted: 2012-03-08 10:49:38   Link

On 3/8/2012 10:36 AM, Jerry Foote wrote:

> Rick

> Do you know if the file size has been or plan to be increased in xbase++

> Jerry

Jerry -- are you talking about the 2GB dbf limit?

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