Author: Nicholas Geti
Posted: 2012-01-05 01:25:53 Link
http://visiontoamerica.org/6906/breaking-georgia-court-to-hear-natural-born-citizen-case-vs-obama/
I doubt that it will do any good but at least some people are still trying to make Obama's birth certificate null and void.
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Author: Pete Theisen
Posted: 2012-01-05 02:46:37 Link
Nicholas Geti wrote:
> http://visiontoamerica.org/6906/breaking-georgia-court-to-hear-natural-born-citizen-case-vs-obama/
>
>
> I doubt that it will do any good but at least some people are still
> trying to make Obama's birth certificate null and void.
> This case, in Georgia, deals specifically with the Natural Born
> Citizen issue.
>
> In a previous article, we brought up the Minor vs Happersett case
> from 1875 in which the Supreme Court defined a NBC as one who has 2
> parents which were citizens at the time of the subject’s birth. We
> also cited 3 other cases in which the Supreme Court, previous to the
> Minor case, said the same thing.
>
> Since Obama’s father, at the time of Barack’s birth, was not a U.S.
> citizen, nor did he ever become one, according to the U.S. Supreme
> Court in 1875…Obama is NOT a Natural Born Citizen.
>
> If not a NBC…then, according to the Constitution, Obama is ineligible
> to serve as President.
Not only his father was not a citizen, his mother was too young to
confer citizenship by birth to a child born outside of the states.
Should cast some light on the subject. Never mind that he has proven
most inept and the whole business community feels they can't trust him.
I mean, except those on the take.
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Author: geoff
Posted: 2012-01-05 03:42:34 Link
Apart from the general contempt I feel for people who continually bring this
non-issue up time and time again I an amused by the notion of what would
happen if Obama were retrospectively disqualified. So come on... tell me
what you think would happen. Let's start with a few facts.
every bill Obama signed would be rendered immediately void. this also means
all spending and appropriation bills. That means all that money paid to
federal employees would immediately become repayable in full. The government
itself would be effectively unconstitutional and cease to exist. All your
welfare payments would have been illegal and subject to immediate repayment
except of course there would be no federal employees left to take the money.
They were just all dismissed because there is no money - and has been none
for 3 years - to pay them. Every judicial appointment made would be
unconstitutional thus rendering every judgment they make - civil or criminal
- invalid and subject to immediate dismissal. All tax payments would be
invalidated as the government mandated with its collection was not in
existence for over 3 years.
how's that scenario sound to you? worth all the ridiculous postering over a
'natural born' distinction that is as idiotic as it is discriminatory? The
reason why there is no judge alive that would rule against the certificate
is that the chaos that would ensue could possibly destroy the nation.
It is an idiotic pseudo argument made in response to losing an election. it
is like the 2000 stolen election all over again. You republicans really
ought to learn to lose with grace since you can't govern with competence.
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Nicholas Geti wrote:
> http://visiontoamerica.org/6906/breaking-georgia-court-to-hear-natural
> -born-citizen-case-vs-obama/
>
>
> I doubt that it will do any good but at least some people are still
> trying to make Obama's birth certificate null and void.
> This case, in Georgia, deals specifically with the Natural Born
> Citizen issue.
>
> In a previous article, we brought up the Minor vs Happersett case from
> 1875 in which the Supreme Court defined a NBC as one who has 2 parents
> which were citizens at the time of the subject's birth. We also cited
> 3 other cases in which the Supreme Court, previous to the Minor case,
> said the same thing.
>
> Since Obama's father, at the time of Barack's birth, was not a U.S.
> citizen, nor did he ever become one, according to the U.S. Supreme
> Court in 1875.Obama is NOT a Natural Born Citizen.
>
> If not a NBC.then, according to the Constitution, Obama is ineligible
> to serve as President.
Not only his father was not a citizen, his mother was too young to confer
citizenship by birth to a child born outside of the states.
Should cast some light on the subject. Never mind that he has proven most
inept and the whole business community feels they can't trust him.
I mean, except those on the take.
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Author: Pete Theisen
Posted: 2012-01-05 04:06:04 Link
geoff wrote:
> Apart from the general contempt I feel for people who continually bring this
> non-issue up time and time again I an amused by the notion of what would
> happen if Obama were retrospectively disqualified.
Hi Geoff,
Interesting question. What WOULD happen is that there would be an appeal
which would put everything that *might* happen on hold until after the
election, and after the second term if he managed to be re-elected.
People aren't necessarily doing this for "now", but to resolve a
constitutional issue once and for all.
Expect Bammer to stonewall all the way to obscurity. His "presidential"
library will be filled with trivialities, everything of substance about
the guy is "secret". I suspect a very scary secret.
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Author: Michael Madigan
Posted: 2012-01-05 14:40:59 Link
There are multiple reasons why he may not be US citizen
1. The birth certificate has not been authenticated nor have they allowed forensic experts to view it. The digital scans of it have either been proven to be photoshops or have serious inconsistencies.
2. If the birth certificate is genuine, then there is a question whether the son of a current British citizen can be considered a "natural born citizen" since he already has dual citizenship.
3. After he was adopted by the Malaysian man and became a Malaysian citizen, there is a question of whether being a Malaysian citizen allows one to declare he is a "natural born citizen"
4. His SSN was issued in Connecticut even though he never lived in Connecticut
5. There is no evidence that he ever "checked back in" after leaving Malaysia to declare once again he was a citizen.
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Apart from the general contempt I feel for people who continually bring this
non-issue up time and time again I an amused by the notion of what would
happen if Obama were retrospectively disqualified. So come on... tell me
what you think would happen. Let's start with a few facts.
every bill Obama signed would be rendered immediately void. this also means
all spending and appropriation bills. That means all that money paid to
federal employees would immediately become repayable in full. The government
itself would be effectively unconstitutional and cease to exist. All your
welfare payments would have been illegal and subject to immediate repayment
except of course there would be no federal employees left to take the money.
They were just all dismissed because there is no money - and has been none
for 3 years - to pay them. Every judicial appointment made would be
unconstitutional thus rendering every judgment they make - civil or criminal
- invalid and subject to immediate dismissal. All tax payments would be
invalidated as the government mandated with its collection was not in
existence for over 3 years.
how's that scenario sound to you? worth all the ridiculous postering over a
'natural born' distinction that is as idiotic as it is discriminatory? The
reason why there is no judge alive that would rule against the certificate
is that the chaos that would ensue could possibly destroy the nation.
It is an idiotic pseudo argument made in response to losing an election. it
is like the 2000 stolen election all over again. You republicans really
ought to learn to lose with grace since you can't govern with competence.
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Subject: Re: [OT] Georgia Court takes case of Obama citizenship
Nicholas Geti wrote:
> http://visiontoamerica.org/6906/breaking-georgia-court-to-hear-natural
> -born-citizen-case-vs-obama/
>
>
> I doubt that it will do any good but at least some people are still
> trying to make Obama's birth certificate null and void.
> This case, in Georgia, deals specifically with the Natural Born
> Citizen issue.
>
> In a previous article, we brought up the Minor vs Happersett case from
> 1875 in which the Supreme Court defined a NBC as one who has 2 parents
> which were citizens at the time of the subject's birth. We also cited
> 3 other cases in which the Supreme Court, previous to the Minor case,
> said the same thing.
>
> Since Obama's father, at the time of Barack's birth, was not a U.S.
> citizen, nor did he ever become one, according to the U.S. Supreme
> Court in 1875.Obama is NOT a Natural Born Citizen.
>
> If not a NBC.then, according to the Constitution, Obama is ineligible
> to serve as President.
Not only his father was not a citizen, his mother was too young to confer
citizenship by birth to a child born outside of the states.
Should cast some light on the subject. Never mind that he has proven most
inept and the whole business community feels they can't trust him.
I mean, except those on the take.
--
Regards,
Pete
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Author: MB Software Solutions, LLC
Posted: 2012-01-05 14:45:25 Link
On 1/5/2012 2:41 PM, Nicholas Geti wrote:
> http://visiontoamerica.org/6906/breaking-georgia-court-to-hear-natural-born-citizen-case-vs-obama/
>
> I doubt that it will do any good but at least some people are still trying to make Obama's birth certificate null and void.
I'm sure Hilary is standing by, ready to accept the Democratic Party's
nomination for 2012! LOL
I wish they'd settle this in a court once and for all...whichever way it
goes.
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Author: Pete Theisen
Posted: 2012-01-05 15:13:33 Link
MB Software Solutions, LLC wrote:
> On 1/5/2012 2:41 PM, Nicholas Geti wrote:
>> http://visiontoamerica.org/6906/breaking-georgia-court-to-hear-natural-born-citizen-case-vs-obama/
>>
>> I doubt that it will do any good but at least some people are still trying to make Obama's birth certificate null and void.
>
> I'm sure Hilary is standing by, ready to accept the Democratic Party's
> nomination for 2012! LOL
>
> I wish they'd settle this in a court once and for all...whichever way it
> goes.
Hi Michael,
This is the most revealing aspect of it - the millions and millions
Bammer has spent to keep it out of court!
Probably more than a billion by now. If he has nothing to hide, why is
he going to so much trouble to hide it?
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Author: Nicholas Geti
Posted: 2012-01-05 16:44:15 Link
I have nothing but contempt for socialists who claim this is the way it is
because it would be too onerous to undo what's done. You are building a
windmill that is irrelevant. Nothing will be undone. Very few of the things
you mention has anything to do with Obama signing the bills passed by
Congress. Those things go on no matter who is in charge.
This issue is very important. It will put in place a process that will
require jurisdictions to determine eligibility.
What a joke that you think Republicans should lose with grace. I guess you
don't read U.S. news about the absolute squealing done by DemonCrates when
they don't get their way.
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Sent: Thursday, January 05, 2012 3:42 AM
Subject: RE: [OT] Georgia Court takes case of Obama citizenship
> Apart from the general contempt I feel for people who continually bring
> this
> non-issue up time and time again I an amused by the notion of what would
> happen if Obama were retrospectively disqualified. So come on... tell me
> what you think would happen. Let's start with a few facts.
>
> every bill Obama signed would be rendered immediately void. this also
> means
> all spending and appropriation bills. That means all that money paid to
> federal employees would immediately become repayable in full. The
> government
> itself would be effectively unconstitutional and cease to exist. All your
> welfare payments would have been illegal and subject to immediate
> repayment
> except of course there would be no federal employees left to take the
> money.
> They were just all dismissed because there is no money - and has been none
> for 3 years - to pay them. Every judicial appointment made would be
> unconstitutional thus rendering every judgment they make - civil or
> criminal
> - invalid and subject to immediate dismissal. All tax payments would be
> invalidated as the government mandated with its collection was not in
> existence for over 3 years.
>
> how's that scenario sound to you? worth all the ridiculous postering over
> a
> 'natural born' distinction that is as idiotic as it is discriminatory? The
> reason why there is no judge alive that would rule against the certificate
> is that the chaos that would ensue could possibly destroy the nation.
>
> It is an idiotic pseudo argument made in response to losing an election.
> it
> is like the 2000 stolen election all over again. You republicans really
> ought to learn to lose with grace since you can't govern with competence.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: profox-bounces@leafe.com [mailto:profox-bounces@leafe.com] On Behalf
> Of Pete Theisen
> Sent: Thursday, 5 January 2012 6:17 PM
> To: ProFox Email List
> Subject: Re: [OT] Georgia Court takes case of Obama citizenship
>
> Nicholas Geti wrote:
>> http://visiontoamerica.org/6906/breaking-georgia-court-to-hear-natural
>> -born-citizen-case-vs-obama/
>>
>>
>> I doubt that it will do any good but at least some people are still
>> trying to make Obama's birth certificate null and void.
>
>> This case, in Georgia, deals specifically with the Natural Born
>> Citizen issue.
>>
>> In a previous article, we brought up the Minor vs Happersett case from
>> 1875 in which the Supreme Court defined a NBC as one who has 2 parents
>> which were citizens at the time of the subject's birth. We also cited
>> 3 other cases in which the Supreme Court, previous to the Minor case,
>> said the same thing.
>>
>> Since Obama's father, at the time of Barack's birth, was not a U.S.
>> citizen, nor did he ever become one, according to the U.S. Supreme
>> Court in 1875.Obama is NOT a Natural Born Citizen.
>>
>> If not a NBC.then, according to the Constitution, Obama is ineligible
>> to serve as President.
>
> Not only his father was not a citizen, his mother was too young to confer
> citizenship by birth to a child born outside of the states.
>
> Should cast some light on the subject. Never mind that he has proven most
> inept and the whole business community feels they can't trust him.
> I mean, except those on the take.
> --
> Regards,
>
> Pete
> http://elect-pete-theisen.com/
>
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Author: Michael Oke, II
Posted: 2012-01-05 16:57:24 Link
I love hearing from constitutional scholars that have no clue what they are talking about. Don't let that stop you from rambling on tho, Geoff.
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On Jan 5, 2012, at 12:42 AM, "geoff" <datades@adam.com.au> wrote:
> Apart from the general contempt I feel for people who continually bring this
> non-issue up time and time again I an amused by the notion of what would
> happen if Obama were retrospectively disqualified. So come on... tell me
> what you think would happen. Let's start with a few facts.
>
> every bill Obama signed would be rendered immediately void. this also means
> all spending and appropriation bills. That means all that money paid to
> federal employees would immediately become repayable in full. The government
> itself would be effectively unconstitutional and cease to exist. All your
> welfare payments would have been illegal and subject to immediate repayment
> except of course there would be no federal employees left to take the money.
> They were just all dismissed because there is no money - and has been none
> for 3 years - to pay them. Every judicial appointment made would be
> unconstitutional thus rendering every judgment they make - civil or criminal
> - invalid and subject to immediate dismissal. All tax payments would be
> invalidated as the government mandated with its collection was not in
> existence for over 3 years.
>
> how's that scenario sound to you? worth all the ridiculous postering over a
> 'natural born' distinction that is as idiotic as it is discriminatory? The
> reason why there is no judge alive that would rule against the certificate
> is that the chaos that would ensue could possibly destroy the nation.
>
> It is an idiotic pseudo argument made in response to losing an election. it
> is like the 2000 stolen election all over again. You republicans really
> ought to learn to lose with grace since you can't govern with competence.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: profox-bounces@leafe.com [mailto:profox-bounces@leafe.com] On Behalf
> Of Pete Theisen
> Sent: Thursday, 5 January 2012 6:17 PM
> To: ProFox Email List
> Subject: Re: [OT] Georgia Court takes case of Obama citizenship
>
> Nicholas Geti wrote:
>> http://visiontoamerica.org/6906/breaking-georgia-court-to-hear-natural
>> -born-citizen-case-vs-obama/
>>
>>
>> I doubt that it will do any good but at least some people are still
>> trying to make Obama's birth certificate null and void.
>
>> This case, in Georgia, deals specifically with the Natural Born
>> Citizen issue.
>>
>> In a previous article, we brought up the Minor vs Happersett case from
>> 1875 in which the Supreme Court defined a NBC as one who has 2 parents
>> which were citizens at the time of the subject's birth. We also cited
>> 3 other cases in which the Supreme Court, previous to the Minor case,
>> said the same thing.
>>
>> Since Obama's father, at the time of Barack's birth, was not a U.S.
>> citizen, nor did he ever become one, according to the U.S. Supreme
>> Court in 1875.Obama is NOT a Natural Born Citizen.
>>
>> If not a NBC.then, according to the Constitution, Obama is ineligible
>> to serve as President.
>
> Not only his father was not a citizen, his mother was too young to confer
> citizenship by birth to a child born outside of the states.
>
> Should cast some light on the subject. Never mind that he has proven most
> inept and the whole business community feels they can't trust him.
> I mean, except those on the take.
> --
> Regards,
>
> Pete
> http://elect-pete-theisen.com/
>
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Author: Pete Theisen
Posted: 2012-01-05 17:00:47 Link
Nicholas Geti wrote:
> I have nothing but contempt for socialists who claim this is the way it is
> because it would be too onerous to undo what's done. You are building a
> windmill that is irrelevant. Nothing will be undone. Very few of the things
> you mention has anything to do with Obama signing the bills passed by
> Congress. Those things go on no matter who is in charge.
>
> This issue is very important. It will put in place a process that will
> require jurisdictions to determine eligibility.
>
> What a joke that you think Republicans should lose with grace. I guess you
> don't read U.S. news about the absolute squealing done by DemonCrates when
> they don't get their way.
Hi Nicholas,
Democrats win most ungraciously. What was that Obama quote? "I won"?
http://blogs.wsj.com/washwire/2009/01/23/obama-to-gop-i-won/
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