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-----Original Message-----
From: Malcolm Greene [mailto:mgreene@bdurham.com]=20
Sent: Thursday, October 31, 2002 12:44 PM
To: Multiple recipients of ProFox
Subject: Questions on Inno Setup capabilities
Greg,
Thanks for sharing about Inno Setup. I keep hearing such great things
about this product. Mind if I ask a "few" questions?
1. How much overhead does the Inno setup add to a distribution?
Overhead as in file size? Very little - it uses compression, so the
total file size is of course going to be smaller.
2. Can Inno Setup update files in use (register replacement files for
update during next system bootup)?
Yes, it can. You just set a flag to tell it to do so.
3. Can Inno Setup accept command line parameters and act on these
paramters, i.e. to default to a different setup folder?
Note that I am aware of. One of the steps in the setup program that the
user runs is to select the location. This can
Also be surpressed so that they user has to install where you tell it
to. =20
4. Can Inno Setup read an INI file and/or specific Registry keys to
determine the location an application has been installed in and default
the setup folder to a known folder (vs. forcing a user to remember where
they previously installed an application?)
Yes, it automatically does this so after the first time an install is
run, the update will always install to whatever directory it was
installed originally. It stores this in the registry somewhere.
5. Can Inno Setup create setups that install in a totally quiet mode (no
user interface)?
I believe so, but I haven't done it. There is an option for Totally
Quiet Install.
6. Can Inno Setup return a DOS error code on success or failure?
Not that I am aware of.
7. Can Inno Setup register file associations?
Yes. It can also regester shared files, such as OCX's, .dlls etc.
8. Can Inno Setup register an uninstall option under Control Panel's
"Add/Remove Program" applet?
Yes. It creates an uninstall that can be run from the Control Panel, or
from the Application directory.
BUT WAIT THAT'S NOT ALL! - it will create a Start Menu ShortCut, as well
as a DeskTop shortcut for you. (The VFP 6 SetUp would not do this.)
Only 3 easy payments of zip, nada, zilch...
Hope this helps.
Greg
Message Number: 17
Date: Thu, 31 Oct 2002 11:29:28 -0600
From: "Greg Gum" <GGum@gpaccessory.com>
Subject: RE: Approaches to organizing application files in subfolders
(and max number of files per folder for reasonable performance)
Malcome,
Isn't there a DONTOVERWRITEIFEXISTS flag in your setup script so that
existing files are not overwritten when you do an update?
I use INNO SetUp and it has such a feature. Having said that, I
recently restructured my folders so that I have a folder called GRAPHICS
and then under that, I have a two Folders FRAMEWORK and CUSTOM. Any
files which can be customized are in the custom folder, so I don't ever
overwrite those, and the ones in the framework folder I do overwrite as
needed.
Inno SetUp is great for doing client updates. I never send out and
update without a setup program anymore as they are so quick and easy to
do.
Greg
Greg,
Thanks for taking the time to answer all my questions! Inno Setup sounds =
like a winner product.
Regards,
Malcolm
Message Number: 9
Date: Thu, 31 Oct 2002 13:11:49 -0600
From: "Greg Gum" <GGum@gpaccessory.com>
Subject: RE: Questions on Inno Setup capabilities
See inline
I am wondering if anyone has used inno setup to create an install file for
vfp7's runtimes. What I am looking for where the runtime files should be
put - or installed to when making a setup utility. I could put them in the
application directory and while that works, its not in my opinion the best
place for them.
Any thoughts.
Bob Lee
Hi Greg,
How does Inno setup compare with InstallShield that comes with VFP?
Roger
-----Original Message-----
From: profox-admin@leafe.com [mailto:profox-admin@leafe.com]On Behalf Of
Greg Gum
Sent: Tuesday, April 01, 2003 1:32 AM
To: profox@leafe.com
Subject: RE: InstaFox
InstaFox is written by Fowler Software Design in Colorado - a firm I
used to work for. All I all, a good company, they taught me a lot, but
they didn't have enough work to keep me busy, so I moved on. I noticed
it being advertised in FoxPro Advisor for a few months, then they quit.
I can only guess there wasn't much of a market for it.
But as far as an Installer written in Fox, I would have to stop and ask
"Why?" It's not what Fox does best.
Like Rich recommended, I use Inno setup, and I have come to love it as
much as I love the Fox - it's powerful, easy to use, and Free! Whee,
what more could you ask for?
God, it's late and I am really tired, but I have been pushing to get a
release good enough to, well, release tomarrow at noon. But at a
certain point, the brain cells stop braining and I think I have reached
that point.
Greg
-----Original Message-----
From: profox-admin@leafe.com [mailto:profox-admin@leafe.com] On Behalf
Of Jacci
Sent: Monday, March 31, 2003 9:08 PM
To: profox@leafe.com
Subject: InstaFox
Hi All,
I was just wondering if anyone has heard of or used InstaFox to create
VFP installations? All I know it is written in VFP and comes with the
source code. If you have, I'd like your opinion on it.
Thanks,
Jacci Adams
Lindsay-Adams Consulting
jacci@neo.rr.com
GCPCUG: Consulting SIG - Facilitator
GCPCUG: FoxPro SIG - Facilitator
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Well, I pulled out the InstallSheild VFP, but never could quite get the
hang of it. I even attended a session at the last Whilfest on it.
Inno setup, on the other hand, was very easy to understand and use, and
there is nothing that I have come across so far that it cannot do. It
compresses your files, installs them, regesters OCX's, creates shortcuts
and menu items, creates an uninstall program, and presents a
professional image to your users. You can put your own custom messages
etc in it, such as license, post set up ect.
Hopefully, I am going to present a session on it at the Whilfest this
year, and on Thursday, I am going to do a session on it to my usergroup.
Greg
-----Original Message-----
From: Roger Kuperways [mailto:roger.kuperways@verizon.net]=20
Sent: Tuesday, April 01, 2003 8:21 AM
To: profox@leafe.com
Subject: RE: InstaFox - Inno setup
Hi Greg,
How does Inno setup compare with InstallShield that comes with VFP?
Roger
-----Original Message-----
From: profox-admin@leafe.com [mailto:profox-admin@leafe.com]On Behalf Of
Greg Gum
Sent: Tuesday, April 01, 2003 1:32 AM
To: profox@leafe.com
Subject: RE: InstaFox
InstaFox is written by Fowler Software Design in Colorado - a firm I
used to work for. All I all, a good company, they taught me a lot, but
they didn't have enough work to keep me busy, so I moved on. I noticed
it being advertised in FoxPro Advisor for a few months, then they quit.
I can only guess there wasn't much of a market for it.
But as far as an Installer written in Fox, I would have to stop and ask
"Why?" It's not what Fox does best. =20
Like Rich recommended, I use Inno setup, and I have come to love it as
much as I love the Fox - it's powerful, easy to use, and Free! Whee,
what more could you ask for?
God, it's late and I am really tired, but I have been pushing to get a
release good enough to, well, release tomarrow at noon. But at a
certain point, the brain cells stop braining and I think I have reached
that point.
Greg
-----Original Message-----
From: profox-admin@leafe.com [mailto:profox-admin@leafe.com] On Behalf
Of Jacci
Sent: Monday, March 31, 2003 9:08 PM
To: profox@leafe.com
Subject: InstaFox
Hi All,
=20
I was just wondering if anyone has heard of or used InstaFox to create
VFP installations? All I know it is written in VFP and comes with the
source code. If you have, I'd like your opinion on it.
=20
Thanks,
=20
Jacci Adams
Lindsay-Adams Consulting
jacci@neo.rr.com
GCPCUG: Consulting SIG - Facilitator
GCPCUG: FoxPro SIG - Facilitator
=20
=20
=20
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Greg,
Will you be distributing any hand-outs on your InnoSetup presentation to =
your Thursday user group?
If so, would you be willing to post your handouts/notes to this forum?
Thanks!
Malcolm
<snip>
Inno setup, on the other hand, was very easy to understand and use, and
there is nothing that I have come across so far that it cannot do. It
compresses your files, installs them, regesters OCX's, creates shortcuts
and menu items, creates an uninstall program, and presents a
professional image to your users. You can put your own custom messages
etc in it, such as license, post set up ect.
Hopefully, I am going to present a session on it at the Whilfest this
year, and on Thursday, I am going to do a session on it to my usergroup.
</snip>
would you mind publishing a basic setup with inno ? Great product...
Thanks
Bob Lee
----- Original Message -----
From: "Greg Gum" <GGum@gpaccessory.com>
To: <profox@leafe.com>
Sent: Tuesday, April 01, 2003 10:00 AM
Subject: RE: InstaFox - Inno setup
> Well, I pulled out the InstallSheild VFP, but never could quite get the
> hang of it. I even attended a session at the last Whilfest on it.
>
> Inno setup, on the other hand, was very easy to understand and use, and
> there is nothing that I have come across so far that it cannot do. It
> compresses your files, installs them, regesters OCX's, creates shortcuts
> and menu items, creates an uninstall program, and presents a
> professional image to your users. You can put your own custom messages
> etc in it, such as license, post set up ect.
>
> Hopefully, I am going to present a session on it at the Whilfest this
> year, and on Thursday, I am going to do a session on it to my usergroup.
>
> Greg
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Roger Kuperways [mailto:roger.kuperways@verizon.net]
> Sent: Tuesday, April 01, 2003 8:21 AM
> To: profox@leafe.com
> Subject: RE: InstaFox - Inno setup
>
>
> Hi Greg,
>
> How does Inno setup compare with InstallShield that comes with VFP?
>
> Roger
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: profox-admin@leafe.com [mailto:profox-admin@leafe.com]On Behalf Of
> Greg Gum
> Sent: Tuesday, April 01, 2003 1:32 AM
> To: profox@leafe.com
> Subject: RE: InstaFox
>
>
> InstaFox is written by Fowler Software Design in Colorado - a firm I
> used to work for. All I all, a good company, they taught me a lot, but
> they didn't have enough work to keep me busy, so I moved on. I noticed
> it being advertised in FoxPro Advisor for a few months, then they quit.
> I can only guess there wasn't much of a market for it.
>
> But as far as an Installer written in Fox, I would have to stop and ask
> "Why?" It's not what Fox does best.
>
> Like Rich recommended, I use Inno setup, and I have come to love it as
> much as I love the Fox - it's powerful, easy to use, and Free! Whee,
> what more could you ask for?
>
> God, it's late and I am really tired, but I have been pushing to get a
> release good enough to, well, release tomarrow at noon. But at a
> certain point, the brain cells stop braining and I think I have reached
> that point.
>
> Greg
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: profox-admin@leafe.com [mailto:profox-admin@leafe.com] On Behalf
> Of Jacci
> Sent: Monday, March 31, 2003 9:08 PM
> To: profox@leafe.com
> Subject: InstaFox
>
> Hi All,
>
> I was just wondering if anyone has heard of or used InstaFox to create
> VFP installations? All I know it is written in VFP and comes with the
> source code. If you have, I'd like your opinion on it.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Jacci Adams
> Lindsay-Adams Consulting
> jacci@neo.rr.com
> GCPCUG: Consulting SIG - Facilitator
> GCPCUG: FoxPro SIG - Facilitator
>
>
>
>
>
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At 09:00 AM 4/1/03 -0600, Greg Gum wrote:
>Inno setup, on the other hand, was very easy to understand and use, and
>there is nothing that I have come across so far that it cannot do.
How do you get it to include the vfp7 runtimes and c libs needed for a vfp7
setup?
>Hopefully, I am going to present a session on it at the Whilfest this
>year, and on Thursday, I am going to do a session on it to my usergroup.
And have someone transcribe the session and post it here, with abundant
illustrations, right? :-)
I would be happy to.
Give me a couple days to put a powerpoint presentation together that I
am going to use at my User Group meeting Thursday, and then I will post
it along with a sample script and a walkthrough of what it is and does.
I am happy to see the interest in the product - I am the self-appointed
evanglist for Inno SetUp in the Fox World!
Greg
-----Original Message-----
From: Bob Lee [mailto:BobL@1amsoftware.com]=20
Sent: Tuesday, April 01, 2003 11:12 AM
To: profox@leafe.com
Subject: Re: InstaFox - Inno setup
would you mind publishing a basic setup with inno ? Great product... =20
Thanks=20
Bob Lee=20
----- Original Message -----=20
From: "Greg Gum" <GGum@gpaccessory.com>
To: <profox@leafe.com>
Sent: Tuesday, April 01, 2003 10:00 AM
Subject: RE: InstaFox - Inno setup
> Well, I pulled out the InstallSheild VFP, but never could quite get=20
> the hang of it. I even attended a session at the last Whilfest on it.
>=20
> Inno setup, on the other hand, was very easy to understand and use,=20
> and there is nothing that I have come across so far that it cannot do.
> It compresses your files, installs them, regesters OCX's, creates=20
> shortcuts and menu items, creates an uninstall program, and presents a
> professional image to your users. You can put your own custom messages
> etc in it, such as license, post set up ect.
>=20
> Hopefully, I am going to present a session on it at the Whilfest this=20
> year, and on Thursday, I am going to do a session on it to my=20
> usergroup.
>=20
> Greg
>=20
>=20
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Roger Kuperways [mailto:roger.kuperways@verizon.net]
> Sent: Tuesday, April 01, 2003 8:21 AM
> To: profox@leafe.com
> Subject: RE: InstaFox - Inno setup
>=20
>=20
> Hi Greg,
>=20
> How does Inno setup compare with InstallShield that comes with VFP?
>=20
> Roger
>=20
> -----Original Message-----
> From: profox-admin@leafe.com [mailto:profox-admin@leafe.com]On Behalf=20
> Of Greg Gum
> Sent: Tuesday, April 01, 2003 1:32 AM
> To: profox@leafe.com
> Subject: RE: InstaFox
>=20
>=20
> InstaFox is written by Fowler Software Design in Colorado - a firm I=20
> used to work for. All I all, a good company, they taught me a lot,=20
> but they didn't have enough work to keep me busy, so I moved on. I=20
> noticed it being advertised in FoxPro Advisor for a few months, then=20
> they quit. I can only guess there wasn't much of a market for it.
>=20
> But as far as an Installer written in Fox, I would have to stop and=20
> ask "Why?" It's not what Fox does best.
>=20
> Like Rich recommended, I use Inno setup, and I have come to love it as
> much as I love the Fox - it's powerful, easy to use, and Free! Whee,=20
> what more could you ask for?
>=20
> God, it's late and I am really tired, but I have been pushing to get a
> release good enough to, well, release tomarrow at noon. But at a=20
> certain point, the brain cells stop braining and I think I have=20
> reached that point.
>=20
> Greg
>=20
> -----Original Message-----
> From: profox-admin@leafe.com [mailto:profox-admin@leafe.com] On Behalf
> Of Jacci
> Sent: Monday, March 31, 2003 9:08 PM
> To: profox@leafe.com
> Subject: InstaFox
>=20
> Hi All,
> =20
> I was just wondering if anyone has heard of or used InstaFox to create
> VFP installations? All I know it is written in VFP and comes with the
> source code. If you have, I'd like your opinion on it.
> =20
> Thanks,
> =20
> Jacci Adams
> Lindsay-Adams Consulting
> jacci@neo.rr.com
> GCPCUG: Consulting SIG - Facilitator
> GCPCUG: FoxPro SIG - Facilitator
> =20
> =20
> =20
>=20
>=20
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Welcome to your 15 minutes of Fame. !! you deserve it.
Bob Lee
----- Original Message -----
From: "Greg Gum" <GGum@gpaccessory.com>
To: <profox@leafe.com>
Sent: Tuesday, April 01, 2003 5:27 PM
Subject: RE: InstaFox - Inno setup
> I would be happy to.
>
> Give me a couple days to put a powerpoint presentation together that I
> am going to use at my User Group meeting Thursday, and then I will post
> it along with a sample script and a walkthrough of what it is and does.
>
> I am happy to see the interest in the product - I am the self-appointed
> evanglist for Inno SetUp in the Fox World!
>
> Greg
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Bob Lee [mailto:BobL@1amsoftware.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, April 01, 2003 11:12 AM
> To: profox@leafe.com
> Subject: Re: InstaFox - Inno setup
>
>
> would you mind publishing a basic setup with inno ? Great product...
> Thanks
> Bob Lee
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Greg Gum" <GGum@gpaccessory.com>
> To: <profox@leafe.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, April 01, 2003 10:00 AM
> Subject: RE: InstaFox - Inno setup
>
>
> > Well, I pulled out the InstallSheild VFP, but never could quite get
> > the hang of it. I even attended a session at the last Whilfest on it.
> >
> > Inno setup, on the other hand, was very easy to understand and use,
> > and there is nothing that I have come across so far that it cannot do.
>
> > It compresses your files, installs them, regesters OCX's, creates
> > shortcuts and menu items, creates an uninstall program, and presents a
>
> > professional image to your users. You can put your own custom messages
>
> > etc in it, such as license, post set up ect.
> >
> > Hopefully, I am going to present a session on it at the Whilfest this
> > year, and on Thursday, I am going to do a session on it to my
> > usergroup.
> >
> > Greg
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Roger Kuperways [mailto:roger.kuperways@verizon.net]
> > Sent: Tuesday, April 01, 2003 8:21 AM
> > To: profox@leafe.com
> > Subject: RE: InstaFox - Inno setup
> >
> >
> > Hi Greg,
> >
> > How does Inno setup compare with InstallShield that comes with VFP?
> >
> > Roger
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: profox-admin@leafe.com [mailto:profox-admin@leafe.com]On Behalf
> > Of Greg Gum
> > Sent: Tuesday, April 01, 2003 1:32 AM
> > To: profox@leafe.com
> > Subject: RE: InstaFox
> >
> >
> > InstaFox is written by Fowler Software Design in Colorado - a firm I
> > used to work for. All I all, a good company, they taught me a lot,
> > but they didn't have enough work to keep me busy, so I moved on. I
> > noticed it being advertised in FoxPro Advisor for a few months, then
> > they quit. I can only guess there wasn't much of a market for it.
> >
> > But as far as an Installer written in Fox, I would have to stop and
> > ask "Why?" It's not what Fox does best.
> >
> > Like Rich recommended, I use Inno setup, and I have come to love it as
>
> > much as I love the Fox - it's powerful, easy to use, and Free! Whee,
> > what more could you ask for?
> >
> > God, it's late and I am really tired, but I have been pushing to get a
>
> > release good enough to, well, release tomarrow at noon. But at a
> > certain point, the brain cells stop braining and I think I have
> > reached that point.
> >
> > Greg
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: profox-admin@leafe.com [mailto:profox-admin@leafe.com] On Behalf
>
> > Of Jacci
> > Sent: Monday, March 31, 2003 9:08 PM
> > To: profox@leafe.com
> > Subject: InstaFox
> >
> > Hi All,
> >
> > I was just wondering if anyone has heard of or used InstaFox to create
>
> > VFP installations? All I know it is written in VFP and comes with the
>
> > source code. If you have, I'd like your opinion on it.
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Jacci Adams
> > Lindsay-Adams Consulting
> > jacci@neo.rr.com
> > GCPCUG: Consulting SIG - Facilitator
> > GCPCUG: FoxPro SIG - Facilitator
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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