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2011-11-20 01:28 – Sayth Renshaw : [dabo-users] Questions and Assunptions
2011-11-20 10:44 – Ed Leafe : Re: [dabo-users] Questions and Assunptions
2011-11-20 17:54 – John Fabiani : Re: [dabo-users] Questions and Assunptions
2011-11-21 05:24 – Sayth Renshaw : Re: [dabo-users] Questions and Assunptions (Ed Leafe)
2011-11-21 09:59 – John Fabiani : Re: [dabo-users] Questions and Assunptions (Ed Leafe)
2011-11-22 15:17 – Wolfgang Keller : Re: [dabo-users] Questions and Assunptions
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[dabo-users] Questions and Assunptions

Author: Sayth Renshaw

Posted: 2011-11-20 01:28:01   Link

Hi

Looking to get a little clarification regarding dabo. I have been looking

through the docs and the pycon talk/tutorial.

A few cards on the table. I have been learning python over the last 2

months and I have got the basics down but obviously an experienced user by

far.

As I am looking to create a data centric application I have been reviewing

my options long story short in the python world there seems to be camelot

and dabo and a non python option of Gambas. It's my impression that camelot

would not scale up as well as dabo? That's just an unfounded assumption, am

i wrong?

Three is a lot of good information on the wiki

http://wiki.dabodev.com/FrontPage but I just need to get a few things

straight in my head.

External python libraries such as numpy and matplotlib are they usable in a

dabo project? The main focus of my application would be forecasting data

and so presenting reports with a graphical output would be useful, does

dabo directly support this?

Same focus if to create my report requires

calculating arrays obviously numpy would be good for this using narray,

again supported/unsupported in dabo?

Kind regards

Sayth

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Re: [dabo-users] Questions and Assunptions

Author: Ed Leafe

Posted: 2011-11-20 10:44:42   Link

On Nov 20, 2011, at 12:28 AM, Sayth Renshaw wrote:

> As I am looking to create a data centric application I have been reviewing

> my options long story short in the python world there seems to be camelot

> and dabo and a non python option of Gambas. It's my impression that camelot

> would not scale up as well as dabo? That's just an unfounded assumption, am

> i wrong?

I've seen Camelot, but must confess that I know little about it, so I can't compare its scalability to Dabo's.

> External python libraries such as numpy and matplotlib are they usable in a

> dabo project? The main focus of my application would be forecasting data

> and so presenting reports with a graphical output would be useful, does

> dabo directly support this?

Dabo is Python, so yes, any Python library will work fine. Dabo's GUI is based on wxPython, and a quick scan of Google shows lots of links for displaying graphs from matplotlib in wxPython.

> Same focus if to create my report requires

> calculating arrays obviously numpy would be good for this using narray,

> again supported/unsupported in dabo?

Since this is simply another Python library, it will work fine. If your data is coming from a database, you could add any of the logic for manipulating the data to your business object, which acts as the mediator between the database and the GUI.

-- Ed Leafe

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Re: [dabo-users] Questions and Assunptions

Author: John Fabiani

Posted: 2011-11-20 17:54:16   Link

On Sunday, November 20, 2011 05:28:01 PM Sayth Renshaw wrote:

> Hi

>

> Looking to get a little clarification regarding dabo. I have been looking

> through the docs and the pycon talk/tutorial.

>

> A few cards on the table. I have been learning python over the last 2

> months and I have got the basics down but obviously an experienced user by

> far.

>

> As I am looking to create a data centric application I have been reviewing

> my options long story short in the python world there seems to be camelot

> and dabo and a non python option of Gambas. It's my impression that camelot

> would not scale up as well as dabo? That's just an unfounded assumption, am

> i wrong?

>

> Three is a lot of good information on the wiki

> http://wiki.dabodev.com/FrontPage but I just need to get a few things

> straight in my head.

>

> External python libraries such as numpy and matplotlib are they usable in a

> dabo project? The main focus of my application would be forecasting data

> and so presenting reports with a graphical output would be useful, does

> dabo directly support this?

>

> Same focus if to create my report requires

> calculating arrays obviously numpy would be good for this using narray,

> again supported/unsupported in dabo?

>

> Kind regards

>

> Sayth

Major differences are:

1. Has a commerical license.

2. Uses QT

3. Uses SQLAlchemy

4. Based on a Django concept.

Johnf

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Re: [dabo-users] Questions and Assunptions (Ed Leafe)

Author: Sayth Renshaw

Posted: 2011-11-21 05:24:23   Link

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> Hi

>

> Looking to get a little clarification regarding dabo. I have been looking

> through the docs and the pycon talk/tutorial.

>

> A few cards on the table. I have been learning python over the last 2

> months and I have got the basics down but obviously an experienced user by

> far.

>

> As I am looking to create a data centric application I have been reviewing

> my options long story short in the python world there seems to be camelot

> and dabo and a non python option of Gambas. It's my impression that camelot

> would not scale up as well as dabo? That's just an unfounded assumption, am

> i wrong?

>

> Three is a lot of good information on the wiki

> http://wiki.dabodev.com/FrontPage but I just need to get a few things

> straight in my head.

>

> External python libraries such as numpy and matplotlib are they usable in a

> dabo project? The main focus of my application would be forecasting data

> and so presenting reports with a graphical output would be useful, does

> dabo directly support this?

>

> Same focus if to create my report requires

> calculating arrays obviously numpy would be good for this using narray,

> again supported/unsupported in dabo?

>

> Kind regards

>

> Sayth

>

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> From: Ed Leafe <ed@leafe.com>

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> On Nov 20, 2011, at 12:28 AM, Sayth Renshaw wrote:

>

> > As I am looking to create a data centric application I have been

> reviewing

> > my options long story short in the python world there seems to be camelot

> > and dabo and a non python option of Gambas. It's my impression that

> camelot

> > would not scale up as well as dabo? That's just an unfounded assumption,

> am

> > i wrong?

>

> I've seen Camelot, but must confess that I know little about it, so

> I can't compare its scalability to Dabo's.

>

> > External python libraries such as numpy and matplotlib are they usable

> in a

> > dabo project? The main focus of my application would be forecasting data

> > and so presenting reports with a graphical output would be useful, does

> > dabo directly support this?

>

> Dabo is Python, so yes, any Python library will work fine. Dabo's

> GUI is based on wxPython, and a quick scan of Google shows lots of links

> for displaying graphs from matplotlib in wxPython.

>

> > Same focus if to create my report requires

> > calculating arrays obviously numpy would be good for this using narray,

> > again supported/unsupported in dabo?

>

> Since this is simply another Python library, it will work fine. If

> your data is coming from a database, you could add any of the logic for

> manipulating the data to your business object, which acts as the mediator

> between the database and the GUI.

>

>

>

> -- Ed Leafe

>

>

> Since this is simply another Python library, it will work fine. If

your data is coming from a database, you could add any of the logic for

manipulating the data to your > > business object, which acts as the

mediator between the database and the GUI.

thank you ed I was hoping that was going to be the case. I have been

looking at the docs and a few of he screencasts, Dabo seems to have a lot

more capability than one might initially expect looking at the site.

Kind Regards

Sayth

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Re: [dabo-users] Questions and Assunptions (Ed Leafe)

Author: John Fabiani

Posted: 2011-11-21 09:59:01   Link

On Monday, November 21, 2011 09:24:23 PM Sayth Renshaw wrote:

> thank you ed I was hoping that was going to be the case. I have been

> looking at the docs and a few of he screencasts, Dabo seems to have a lot

> more capability than one might initially expect looking at the site.

This is off topic - but what information do you believe was missing from the

Dabo website?

Johnf

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Re: [dabo-users] Questions and Assunptions

Author: Wolfgang Keller

Posted: 2011-11-22 15:17:35   Link

> in the python world there seems to be camelot and dabo

Apart from Camelot and Dabo, I know of the following desktop (non-Web)

DB application frameworks:

PyQt:

- Pypapi

- Qtalchemy

PyGTK:

- Kiwi

- Sqlkit

- OpenObject/OpenERP

wxPython:

- Gnuenterprise

- Defis (russian only, it seems)

Sincerely,

Wolfgang

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