Author: Ed Leafe
Posted: 2011-08-23 15:47:25 Link
The favorite target of climate-change deniers, Michael Mann, has been cleared of any research wrongdoing.
"The panel found no evidence of research misconduct in three of the four areas it examined, including falsifying data and misusing confidential information. But it concluded that further investigation was needed into whether Mann did anything not in keeping with accepted practices for proposing, conducting or reporting research."
I know it would be wishful thinking to think that the ignorant folks who up until now used this one incident to paint all scientists as dishonest, and thus free them from acknowledging anything they don't like as valid, would realize that at worst this was a matter of incorrect protocol being followed, and at best a simple matter of human error by an individual. However, as these people are the same ones who continue to knowingly assert untruths such as "Al Gore claimed to have invented the internet", I strongly doubt that they will display any more honesty when it comes to this matter. But at least those of you with some shred of dignity will be able to more easily spot these liars when they continue to repeat lies about climate scientists "cooking the books".
http://www.centredaily.com/2011/08/23/2886753/bloomberg-news-penn-state-climate.html
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Author: Nicholas Geti
Posted: 2011-08-23 21:16:48 Link
Maybe this will stop the few who continually use the argument that
scientists have been cooking the books about climate change. Glad you found
this news.
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> The favorite target of climate-change deniers, Michael Mann, has been
> cleared of any research wrongdoing.
>
> "The panel found no evidence of research misconduct in three of the four
> areas it examined, including falsifying data and misusing confidential
> information. But it concluded that further investigation was needed into
> whether Mann did anything not in keeping with accepted practices for
> proposing, conducting or reporting research."
>
> I know it would be wishful thinking to think that the ignorant folks who
> up until now used this one incident to paint all scientists as dishonest,
> and thus free them from acknowledging anything they don't like as valid,
> would realize that at worst this was a matter of incorrect protocol being
> followed, and at best a simple matter of human error by an individual.
> However, as these people are the same ones who continue to knowingly
> assert untruths such as "Al Gore claimed to have invented the internet", I
> strongly doubt that they will display any more honesty when it comes to
> this matter. But at least those of you with some shred of dignity will be
> able to more easily spot these liars when they continue to repeat lies
> about climate scientists "cooking the books".
>
> http://www.centredaily.com/2011/08/23/2886753/bloomberg-news-penn-state-climate.html
>
> ( -or- http://j.mp/nFc0D8 )
>
>
>
> -- Ed Leafe
>
>
>
>
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Author: Michael Oke, II
Posted: 2011-08-23 21:51:09 Link
His peers from the university he works at adjudged him not guilty in 3 of 4
areas. Yup, I've been put at ease.
Michael Oke, II
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On Aug 23, 2011 6:35 PM, "Nicholas Geti" <ngeti@optonline.net> wrote:
> Maybe this will stop the few who continually use the argument that
> scientists have been cooking the books about climate change. Glad you
found
> this news.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Ed Leafe" <ed@leafe.com>
> To: "ProFox Mailing List" <profox@leafe.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, August 23, 2011 3:47 PM
> Subject: [OT] Climate-change scientists cleared of misconduct
>
>
>> The favorite target of climate-change deniers, Michael Mann, has been
>> cleared of any research wrongdoing.
>>
>> "The panel found no evidence of research misconduct in three of the four
>> areas it examined, including falsifying data and misusing confidential
>> information. But it concluded that further investigation was needed into
>> whether Mann did anything not in keeping with accepted practices for
>> proposing, conducting or reporting research."
>>
>> I know it would be wishful thinking to think that the ignorant folks who
>> up until now used this one incident to paint all scientists as dishonest,
>> and thus free them from acknowledging anything they don't like as valid,
>> would realize that at worst this was a matter of incorrect protocol being
>> followed, and at best a simple matter of human error by an individual.
>> However, as these people are the same ones who continue to knowingly
>> assert untruths such as "Al Gore claimed to have invented the internet",
I
>> strongly doubt that they will display any more honesty when it comes to
>> this matter. But at least those of you with some shred of dignity will be
>> able to more easily spot these liars when they continue to repeat lies
>> about climate scientists "cooking the books".
>>
>>
http://www.centredaily.com/2011/08/23/2886753/bloomberg-news-penn-state-climate.html
>>
>> ( -or- http://j.mp/nFc0D8 )
>>
>>
>>
>> -- Ed Leafe
>>
>>
>>
>>
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Author: Michael Madigan
Posted: 2011-08-24 04:22:08 Link
They never did put any of the pro-tobacco scientists in jail either. Nor did they put the global cooling scientists in jail.
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Maybe this will stop the few who continually use the argument that
scientists have been cooking the books about climate change. Glad you found
this news.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Ed Leafe" <ed@leafe.com>
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Sent: Tuesday, August 23, 2011 3:47 PM
Subject: [OT] Climate-change scientists cleared of misconduct
> The favorite target of climate-change deniers, Michael Mann, has been
> cleared of any research wrongdoing.
>
> "The panel found no evidence of research misconduct in three of the four
> areas it examined, including falsifying data and misusing confidential
> information. But it concluded that further investigation was needed into
> whether Mann did anything not in keeping with accepted practices for
> proposing, conducting or reporting research."
>
> I know it would be wishful thinking to think that the ignorant folks who
> up until now used this one incident to paint all scientists as dishonest,
> and thus free them from acknowledging anything they don't like as valid,
> would realize that at worst this was a matter of incorrect protocol being
> followed, and at best a simple matter of human error by an individual.
> However, as these people are the same ones who continue to knowingly
> assert untruths such as "Al Gore claimed to have invented the internet", I
> strongly doubt that they will display any more honesty when it comes to
> this matter. But at least those of you with some shred of dignity will be
> able to more easily spot these liars when they continue to repeat lies
> about climate scientists "cooking the books".
>
> http://www.centredaily.com/2011/08/23/2886753/bloomberg-news-penn-state-climate.html
>
> ( -or- http://j.mp/nFc0D8 )
>
>
>
> -- Ed Leafe
>
>
>
>
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Author: Michael Madigan
Posted: 2011-08-24 04:23:02 Link
Where are the 50 million global warming refugees? Did they all drown with the polar bears?
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From: "Michael Oke, II" <okeind@gmail.com>
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Sent: Tuesday, August 23, 2011 9:51 PM
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His peers from the university he works at adjudged him not guilty in 3 of 4
areas. Yup, I've been put at ease.
Michael Oke, II
661-349-6221
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On Aug 23, 2011 6:35 PM, "Nicholas Geti" <ngeti@optonline.net> wrote:
> Maybe this will stop the few who continually use the argument that
> scientists have been cooking the books about climate change. Glad you
found
> this news.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Ed Leafe" <ed@leafe.com>
> To: "ProFox Mailing List" <profox@leafe.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, August 23, 2011 3:47 PM
> Subject: [OT] Climate-change scientists cleared of misconduct
>
>
>> The favorite target of climate-change deniers, Michael Mann, has been
>> cleared of any research wrongdoing.
>>
>> "The panel found no evidence of research misconduct in three of the four
>> areas it examined, including falsifying data and misusing confidential
>> information. But it concluded that further investigation was needed into
>> whether Mann did anything not in keeping with accepted practices for
>> proposing, conducting or reporting research."
>>
>> I know it would be wishful thinking to think that the ignorant folks who
>> up until now used this one incident to paint all scientists as dishonest,
>> and thus free them from acknowledging anything they don't like as valid,
>> would realize that at worst this was a matter of incorrect protocol being
>> followed, and at best a simple matter of human error by an individual.
>> However, as these people are the same ones who continue to knowingly
>> assert untruths such as "Al Gore claimed to have invented the internet",
I
>> strongly doubt that they will display any more honesty when it comes to
>> this matter. But at least those of you with some shred of dignity will be
>> able to more easily spot these liars when they continue to repeat lies
>> about climate scientists "cooking the books".
>>
>>
http://www.centredaily.com/2011/08/23/2886753/bloomberg-news-penn-state-climate.html
>>
>> ( -or- http://j.mp/nFc0D8 )
>>
>>
>>
>> -- E[excessive quoting removed by server]
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Author: Michael Madigan
Posted: 2011-08-24 04:36:11 Link
So they're not criminals, they're just idiots.
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From: Ed Leafe <ed@leafe.com>
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Sent: Tuesday, August 23, 2011 3:47 PM
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The favorite target of climate-change deniers, Michael Mann, has been cleared of any research wrongdoing.
"The panel found no evidence of research misconduct in three of the four areas it examined, including falsifying data and misusing confidential information. But it concluded that further investigation was needed into whether Mann did anything not in keeping with accepted practices for proposing, conducting or reporting research."
I know it would be wishful thinking to think that the ignorant folks who up until now used this one incident to paint all scientists as dishonest, and thus free them from acknowledging anything they don't like as valid, would realize that at worst this was a matter of incorrect protocol being followed, and at best a simple matter of human error by an individual. However, as these people are the same ones who continue to knowingly assert untruths such as "Al Gore claimed to have invented the internet", I strongly doubt that they will display any more honesty when it comes to this matter. But at least those of you with some shred of dignity will be able to more easily spot these liars when they continue to repeat lies about climate scientists "cooking the books".
http://www.centredaily.com/2011/08/23/2886753/bloomberg-news-penn-state-climate.html
( -or- http://j.mp/nFc0D8 )
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Author: Jean Laeremans
Posted: 2011-08-24 04:43:32 Link
On Wed, Aug 24, 2011 at 10:36 AM, Michael Madigan <mmadi10699@yahoo.com>wrote:
> So they're not criminals, they're just idiots.
>
>
Have a look in the mirror.
A+
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Author: Michael Madigan
Posted: 2011-08-24 05:04:17 Link
Didn't you break all your mirrors?
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On Wed, Aug 24, 2011 at 10:36 AM, Michael Madigan <mmadi10699@yahoo.com>wrote:
> So they're not criminals, they're just idiots.
>
>
Have a look in the mirror.
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Author: Ricardo Aráoz
Posted: 2011-08-24 12:00:45 Link
On 23/08/2011 10:51 p.m., Michael Oke, II wrote:
> His peers from the university he works at adjudged him not guilty in 3 of 4
> areas. Yup, I've been put at ease.
In science you are always judged by your peers.
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Author: Ed Leafe
Posted: 2011-08-24 12:43:52 Link
On Aug 24, 2011, at 11:00 AM, Ricardo Aráoz wrote:
>> His peers from the university he works at adjudged him not guilty in 3 of 4
>> areas. Yup, I've been put at ease.
>
> In science you are always judged by your peers.
That's what makes it a conspiracy! ;-)
For the record, I didn't post this to sway the deniers; I'm convinced that they will cling to anything, real or imaginary, rather than open their minds. They start with their opinion, and then pick and choose those things that support that opinion, and twist or ignore those that don't.
My only purpose in posting that is for the people who actually are able to weigh different bits of information and form an opinion. Since the review was about academic propriety, of course the people to judge that would be the people who set and enforce those standards.
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