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2011-05-19 07:02 – MELKARTH@terra.es : [dabo-users] Reenv: Problem in Dabo demo
2011-05-19 08:09 – Ed Leafe : Re: [dabo-users] Reenv: Problem in Dabo demo
2011-05-19 09:48 – melkarth0 : Re: [dabo-users] Reenv: Problem in Dabo demo
2011-05-20 01:58 – Henning Hraban Ramm : Re: [dabo-users] Reenv: Problem in Dabo demo
2011-05-20 03:06 – melkarth0 : Re: [dabo-users] Reenv: Problem in Dabo demo
2011-05-20 05:00 – Henning Hraban Ramm : Re: [dabo-users] Reenv: Problem in Dabo demo
2011-05-20 11:20 – melkarth0 : Re: [dabo-users] Reenv: Problem in Dabo demo
2011-05-21 03:02 – melkarth0 : Re: [dabo-users] Reenv: Problem in Dabo demo
2011-05-21 08:56 – Nick Raptis : Re: [dabo-users] Reenv: Problem in Dabo demo
2011-05-22 13:03 – melkarth0 : Re: [dabo-users] Reenv: Problem in Dabo demo
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[dabo-users] Reenv: Problem in Dabo demo

Author: MELKARTH@terra.es

Posted: 2011-05-19 07:02:12   Link

Fast support! I am falling in love with Dabo.

I am using Python 2.5.4 on Vista and Win7. I've tried to adhere to same

versions of Python software in

http://wiki.dabodev.com/InstallationOnWindows, but wxPython recommended

there is too old for dPageStyle in demo, so I upgraded to version 2.8.10.1.

My OS locale is Spain (Spain, Traditional).

Version info:

Platform: Win

Python Version: 2.5.4 on win32

Dabo Version: Version 0.9.3;

Revision ~6449

UI Version: 2.8.10.1 on wxMSW (---> wxPython2.8-win32-unicode-2.8.10.1-py25.exe)

I also downloaded the Dabo Runtime Engine: same problem, info is:

Platform: Win

Python Version: 2.5.2 on win32

Dabo Version: Version 0.9.3;

Revision ~6449

UI Version: 2.8.10.1 on wxMSW

(obviously I can't see the error, no stdout in demo)

Thank You, Ed. I'm afraid my email provider of 10 years (Terra) is finally drawing to an end. I coundn't reply to your post and I had to create a new one. I will create a new account at gmail soon, sorry for the inconvenience.

melkarth

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Subject: Re: [dabo-users] Problem in Dabo demo

> On May 18, 2011, at 6:21 PM, MELKARTH@terra.es wrote:

>

>> Hi! I'm a total novice to Dabo and (almost) to Python.

>

> Welcome to both Dabo and Python!

>

>> I'm looking for a new tool to make backend programs, I just to use high

>> level 4GL languages, like Progress or Windev.

>> I just started to read the PyCon tutorial and play with the demo. Looks

>> great!

>>

>> My question is simple. I have seen a difference between dTextBox and

>> dEditBox: dTextBox in the demo doesn't allow me to type accented vowels

>> in it (returns an error), while dEditBox works fine. The error is:

>>

>> File "C:\Projects\dabo\demo\samples/dTextBox.py", line 56, in

>> onTextKeyChar

>> cd, ch = evt.keyCode, evt.keyChar

>> UnicodeDecodeError: 'ascii' codec can't decode byte 0xe1 in position 0:

>> ordinal not in range(128)

>>

>> I am trying to localize my apps in spanish, so it's not a lot of change,

>> but the range of chars is 256.

>> In my Python novice code I always write this line: # -*- coding:

>> latin-1 -*- (I don't know if it helps).

>

> Hmmm.. I just tried entering some accented characters in the demo, and it

> worked fine in both dTextBox and dEditBox. Can you tell me your version

> information? You can get it by running the app, selecting the Help/About

> menu item, and then clicking the Copy button. You can then paste the info

> into your reply.

>

>> I'd like to know if this little problem is difficult to -fix? (It doesn't

>> seem to me, because dEditBox is ok !).

>

> It might already be fixed - we have a few non-USA people who have been a

> great help in moving our unicode support forward.

>

>> Thanks in advance, and excuse my bad english.

>

>

> Your English is fine!

>

>

>

> -- Ed Leafe

>

>

>

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Re: [dabo-users] Reenv: Problem in Dabo demo

Author: Ed Leafe

Posted: 2011-05-19 08:09:10   Link

On May 19, 2011, at 7:02 AM, MELKARTH@terra.es wrote:

> Version info:

> Platform: Win

> Python Version: 2.5.4 on win32

> Dabo Version: Version 0.9.3;

> Revision ~6449

> UI Version: 2.8.10.1 on wxMSW (---> wxPython2.8-win32-unicode-2.8.10.1-py25.exe)

Your versions look fine. I saw that you are using latin-1 encoding; the default for Dabo is utf-8. One thing to try is to create a file in the 'demo' directory named 'settings_override.py', and in it simply have the line

defaultEncoding = "latin-1"

This will, as the filename suggests, override the default setting for encoding and tell it to use latin-1 instead. See if that makes a difference.

-- Ed Leafe

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Re: [dabo-users] Reenv: Problem in Dabo demo

Author: melkarth0

Posted: 2011-05-19 09:48:07   Link

Ed, I hope we can have a coherent thread with my new mail address. I could not reply, so the conversation is fragmented right now.

I find no improvement with the new file 'settings_override.py' in demo folder.

As I said to Hraban, I have tested my programs with UTF-8 and they also worked ok, I will use this coding in them from now on, instead of latin-1.

I'm using an unicode wxPython, and dEditBox runs fine. I think it must be something inside dTextBox.

When I enter this lowercase letter: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/%C3%81 , I get:

File "C:\Python25\DABO\demo\samples/dTextBox.py", line 56, in onTextKeyChar

cd, ch = evt.keyCode, evt.keyChar

UnicodeDecodeError: 'ascii' codec can't decode byte 0xe1 in position 0:

ordinal not in range(128)

By the way, I'm only using DaboDemo.py now, not mixing with other python

code.

melkarth

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Subject: Re: [dabo-users] Reenv: Problem in Dabo demo

> On May 19, 2011, at 7:02 AM, MELKARTH@terra.es wrote:

>

>> Version info:

>> Platform: Win

>> Python Version: 2.5.4 on win32

>> Dabo Version: Version 0.9.3;

>> Revision ~6449

>> UI Version: 2.8.10.1 on wxMSW (--->

>> wxPython2.8-win32-unicode-2.8.10.1-py25.exe)

>

>

> Your versions look fine. I saw that you are using latin-1 encoding; the

> default for Dabo is utf-8. One thing to try is to create a file in the

> 'demo' directory named 'settings_override.py', and in it simply have the

> line

>

> defaultEncoding = "latin-1"

>

> This will, as the filename suggests, override the default setting for

> encoding and tell it to use latin-1 instead. See if that makes a

> difference.

>

>

>

> -- Ed Leafe

>

>

>

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Re: [dabo-users] Reenv: Problem in Dabo demo

Author: Henning Hraban Ramm

Posted: 2011-05-20 01:58:16   Link

Am 2011-05-19 um 15:48 schrieb melkarth0:

> As I said to Hraban, I have tested my programs with UTF-8 and they

> also worked ok, I will use this coding in them from now on, instead

> of latin-1.

> I'm using an unicode wxPython, and dEditBox runs fine. I think it

> must be something inside dTextBox.

> When I enter this lowercase letter: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/%C3%81

> , I get:

>

> File "C:\Python25\DABO\demo\samples/dTextBox.py", line 56, in

> onTextKeyChar

> cd, ch = evt.keyCode, evt.keyChar

> UnicodeDecodeError: 'ascii' codec can't decode byte 0xe1 in position

> 0:

> ordinal not in range(128)

>

> By the way, I'm only using DaboDemo.py now, not mixing with other

> python

> code.

Ok, sorry I didn’t test yesterday - I can confirm the error in my

environment (latest SVN):

Platform: Mac

Python Version: 2.6.4 on darwin

Dabo Version: Version 0.9.3; Revision 6589M

UI Version: 2.8.11.0 on wxMac

Just making the strings in the handlers unicode (Melkart: enter a 'u'

in front of the quotes) fixes the problem.

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Re: [dabo-users] Reenv: Problem in Dabo demo

Author: melkarth0

Posted: 2011-05-20 03:06:32   Link

Ok, thank you, Hraban. I've already checked that dTextBox works fine outside

the dabo demo; I'm worried about it no more. I'll try to play with your

solution, but my priority now is to keep learning Dabo.

Greetings

melkarth

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> Am 2011-05-19 um 15:48 schrieb melkarth0:

>

>> As I said to Hraban, I have tested my programs with UTF-8 and they

>> also worked ok, I will use this coding in them from now on, instead

>> of latin-1.

>> I'm using an unicode wxPython, and dEditBox runs fine. I think it

>> must be something inside dTextBox.

>> When I enter this lowercase letter: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/%C3%81

>> , I get:

>>

>> File "C:\Python25\DABO\demo\samples/dTextBox.py", line 56, in

>> onTextKeyChar

>> cd, ch = evt.keyCode, evt.keyChar

>> UnicodeDecodeError: 'ascii' codec can't decode byte 0xe1 in position

>> 0:

>> ordinal not in range(128)

>>

>> By the way, I'm only using DaboDemo.py now, not mixing with other

>> python

>> code.

>

> Ok, sorry I didn’t test yesterday - I can confirm the error in my

> environment (latest SVN):

> Platform: Mac

> Python Version: 2.6.4 on darwin

> Dabo Version: Version 0.9.3; Revision 6589M

> UI Version: 2.8.11.0 on wxMac

>

> Just making the strings in the handlers unicode (Melkart: enter a 'u'

> in front of the quotes) fixes the problem.

>

>

> Greetlings from Lake Constance!

> Hraban

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Re: [dabo-users] Reenv: Problem in Dabo demo

Author: Henning Hraban Ramm

Posted: 2011-05-20 05:00:42   Link

Am 2011-05-20 um 09:06 schrieb melkarth0:

> Ok, thank you, Hraban. I've already checked that dTextBox works fine

> outside the dabo demo; I'm worried about it no more. I'll try to

> play with your solution, but my priority now is to keep learning Dabo.

But since you're learning Python as you go, it might be a good example

to keep attention to Python's quirks like ASCII vs. Unicode "strings".

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Re: [dabo-users] Reenv: Problem in Dabo demo

Author: melkarth0

Posted: 2011-05-20 11:20:04   Link

Hraban :

Mmm. . . I know the difference between 'c' and u'c', but as I'm diving

into the modules of the demo, I'm getting lost. . .

>Just making the strings in the handlers unicode (Melkart: enter a 'u'

>in front of the quotes) fixes the problem.

Sorry, what handler is that?

With my current level of python, I only see a difference between the

dHyperLink demo (that contains a pair of text boxes and works ok) and

dTextBox (that does not), and this difference is the calling to:

txt.bindEvent(dEvents.KeyChar, self.onTextKeyChar) in the dTextBox demo.

In fact, if I comment this line, the text box works ok. So I go to sniff

around .egg\dabo\dEvents.py -> class KeyChar(KeyEvent) , and there I find

only 1 line: "pass". I Suppose this class has been subclassed somewhere...

got a headache, goto get an aspirin. Ah, the old "goto" spaghetti languages,

what a nostalgia!

Thank you for your patience,

melkarth

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Am 2011-05-20 um 09:06 schrieb melkarth0:

> Ok, thank you, Hraban. I've already checked that dTextBox works fine

> outside the dabo demo; I'm worried about it no more. I'll try to play

> with your solution, but my priority now is to keep learning Dabo.

But since you're learning Python as you go, it might be a good example to

keep attention to Python's quirks like ASCII vs. Unicode "strings".

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Re: [dabo-users] Reenv: Problem in Dabo demo

Author: melkarth0

Posted: 2011-05-21 03:02:58   Link

Finally, it seems that I'm bound to 'latin-1' encoding.

I changed line 56 in dTextBox.py, in onTextKeyChar() section in the demo:

cd, ch = evt.keyCode, evt.keyChar

for this one:

cd, ch = evt.keyCode, unicode(evt.keyChar, 'latin-1')

and now runs fine and logit() displays a beautiful a-acute.

More, unicode(evt.keyChar, 'utf-8') doesn't work.

But, please, if anybody has a better approach, make me know it. I have a

conceptual confusion with this encodings stuff. For example, if I put the

line # -*- coding: latin-1 -*- on all the affected demo modules, will it

works as is?

Greetings

Melkarth

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Am 2011-05-20 um 09:06 schrieb melkarth0:

> Ok, thank you, Hraban. I've already checked that dTextBox works fine

> outside the dabo demo; I'm worried about it no more. I'll try to play

> with your solution, but my priority now is to keep learning Dabo.

But since you're learning Python as you go, it might be a good example to

keep attention to Python's quirks like ASCII vs. Unicode "strings".

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Re: [dabo-users] Reenv: Problem in Dabo demo

Author: Nick Raptis

Posted: 2011-05-21 08:56:38   Link

Just my 2 cents:

On 05/21/2011 10:02 AM, melkarth0 wrote:

> Finally, it seems that I'm bound to 'latin-1' encoding.

>

I'm starting to think that this is about wx putting a value to keyChar

in your systems default encoding instead of utf-8

> I changed line 56 in dTextBox.py, in onTextKeyChar() section in the demo:

>

> cd, ch = evt.keyCode, evt.keyChar

>

> for this one:

>

> cd, ch = evt.keyCode, unicode(evt.keyChar, 'latin-1')

>

> and now runs fine and logit() displays a beautiful a-acute.

>

> More, unicode(evt.keyChar, 'utf-8') doesn't work.

>

unicode(evt.keyChar, 'latin-1') actually sounds pretty sane.

You just need to dynamically get the default encoding via a property instead of hardcoding it.

I think this is dabo.getEncoding(), so try

unicode(evt.keyChar, dabo.getEncoding())

Most of us don't see this error because our default encoding is utf-8 anyway.

> But, please, if anybody has a better approach, make me know it. I have a

> conceptual confusion with this encodings stuff. For example, if I put the

> line # -*- coding: latin-1 -*- on all the affected demo modules, will it

> works as is?

>

> Greetings

> Melkarth

>

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Re: [dabo-users] Reenv: Problem in Dabo demo

Author: melkarth0

Posted: 2011-05-22 13:03:05   Link

Hello, Ed, Hraban and Nick.

I've found a nice way to solve the "dabo demo problem" with my

"latin-1"="iso8859-1" character set, without changing a single line of the

dabo framework.

Simply create a file " sitecustomize.py" under Lib\site-packages in my

python directory:

# sitecustomize.py

# this file can be anywhere in your Python path,

# but it usually goes in ${pythondir}/lib/site-packages/

import sys

sys.setdefaultencoding('iso8859-1')

This method "set the current default string encoding used by the Unicode

implementation" (Python library reference).

Before I made this 'discovery', I've tested Nick's proposal :

cd, ch = evt.keyCode, unicode(evt.keyChar, dabo.getEncoding())

. . . and :

File "C:\Projects\dabo\demo\samples/dTextBox.py", line 55, in

onTextKeyChar

def onTextKeyChar(self, evt):

AttributeError: 'module' object has no attribute 'getEncoding'

It seems that my dabo has no getEncoding() method.

The solution Ed gave me : to put 'settings_override.py' file in demo

folder, with line : defaultEncoding = "latin-1" did not work (no error, but

no different results).

Ok, now I'm done with the demo. It goes OK.

So I begin exploring the Dabo AppWizard and I've generated the CRUD/File

Management form. When I go to see the grid of customers (the Browse tab):

lots of wrong characters in the name and address columns!

Then, I've entered a new record and -Eureka, it's ok! -The new record is

exactly as I've entered. So, the other records already entered in the online

database were input by other users with other encodings. PHEW! Big relief.

melkarth

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Just my 2 cents:

On 05/21/2011 10:02 AM, melkarth0 wrote:

> Finally, it seems that I'm bound to 'latin-1' encoding.

>

I'm starting to think that this is about wx putting a value to keyChar in

your systems default encoding instead of utf-8

> I changed line 56 in dTextBox.py, in onTextKeyChar() section in the demo:

>

> cd, ch = evt.keyCode, evt.keyChar

>

> for this one:

>

> cd, ch = evt.keyCode, unicode(evt.keyChar, 'latin-1')

>

> and now runs fine and logit() displays a beautiful a-acute.

>

> More, unicode(evt.keyChar, 'utf-8') doesn't work.

>

unicode(evt.keyChar, 'latin-1') actually sounds pretty sane.

You just need to dynamically get the default encoding via a property instead

of hardcoding it.

I think this is dabo.getEncoding(), so try

unicode(evt.keyChar, dabo.getEncoding())

Most of us don't see this error because our default encoding is utf-8

anyway.

> But, please, if anybody has a better approach, make me know it. I have

> a conceptual confusion with this encodings stuff. For example, if I

> put the line # -*- coding: latin-1 -*- on all the affected demo

> modules, will it works as is?

>

> Greetings

> Melkarth

>

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