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2011-05-17 16:59Stephen Russell : Just had a FPD customer call about a date 4 digit year issue.
2011-05-17 17:07John Harvey : RE: Just had a FPD customer call about a date 4 digit year issue.
2011-05-17 17:19Stephen Russell : Re: Just had a FPD customer call about a date 4 digit year issue.
2011-05-18 04:20Alan Bourke : Re: Just had a FPD customer call about a date 4 digit year issue.
2011-05-18 06:50Roger Tremblay : RE: Just had a FPD customer call about a date 4 digit year issue.
2011-05-18 08:56Stephen Russell : Re: Just had a FPD customer call about a date 4 digit year issue.
2011-05-18 12:33Dan Covill : Re: Just had a FPD customer call about a date 4 digit year issue.
2011-05-18 16:40Alan Bourke : Re: Just had a FPD customer call about a date 4 digit year issue.
2011-05-18 16:53Dan Covill : Re: Just had a FPD customer call about a date 4 digit year issue.
2011-05-19 00:38Rick Schummer : RE: Just had a FPD customer call about a date 4 digit year issue.
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Just had a FPD customer call about a date 4 digit year issue.

Author: Stephen Russell

Posted: 2011-05-17 16:59:22   Link

They bought this system in 92 I believe. Suddenly they have to do a

Sales report and the State Tax Audit person can't tell what year these

were sold in.

Will a FPD exe compile on Win7 64 bit. Will find out tonight.

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Stephen Russell

Unified Health Services

60 Germantown Court

Suite 220

Cordova, TN 38018

Telephone:

888.510.2667

901.246-0159 cell

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RE: Just had a FPD customer call about a date 4 digit year issue.

Author: John Harvey

Posted: 2011-05-17 17:07:34   Link

Virtual pc....

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Subject: Just had a FPD customer call about a date 4 digit year issue.

They bought this system in 92 I believe. Suddenly they have to do a Sales

report and the State Tax Audit person can't tell what year these were sold

in.

Will a FPD exe compile on Win7 64 bit. Will find out tonight.

--

Stephen Russell

Unified Health Services

60 Germantown Court

Suite 220

Cordova, TN 38018

Telephone:

888.510.2667

901.246-0159 cell

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Re: Just had a FPD customer call about a date 4 digit year issue.

Author: Stephen Russell

Posted: 2011-05-17 17:19:09   Link

On Tue, May 17, 2011 at 4:07 PM, John Harvey <john.harvey@shelbynet.com> wrote:

> Virtual pc....

--------------------------

I have an xp box just sitting there for printing services.

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Re: Just had a FPD customer call about a date 4 digit year issue.

Author: Alan Bourke

Posted: 2011-05-18 04:20:54   Link

On Tue, 17 May 2011 15:59 -0500, "Stephen Russell"

<srussell705@gmail.com> wrote:

>

> Will a FPD exe compile on Win7 64 bit. Will find out tonight.

>

NO. No 16-bit software of any description will run on 64-bit Windows. XP

Mode, Virtual PC, VirtualBox.

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RE: Just had a FPD customer call about a date 4 digit year issue.

Author: Roger Tremblay

Posted: 2011-05-18 06:50:11   Link

I have a customer who is reluctant to move to a windows environment and is

running a win7 64bit virtual machine and is running dbase (dos) version

Roger Tremblay

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Subject: Re: Just had a FPD customer call about a date 4 digit year issue.

On Tue, 17 May 2011 15:59 -0500, "Stephen Russell"

<srussell705@gmail.com> wrote:

>

> Will a FPD exe compile on Win7 64 bit. Will find out tonight.

>

NO. No 16-bit software of any description will run on 64-bit Windows. XP

Mode, Virtual PC, VirtualBox.

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Re: Just had a FPD customer call about a date 4 digit year issue.

Author: Stephen Russell

Posted: 2011-05-18 08:56:03   Link

On Wed, May 18, 2011 at 5:50 AM, Roger Tremblay <rogtrem@comcast.net> wrote:

> I have a customer who is reluctant to move to a windows environment and is

> running a win7 64bit virtual machine and is running dbase (dos) version

-------------------

It is true that you cannot run FPD2.5 on Win7 64.

I jumped in the seat of my old office and put the external sata drive

on it with FP, Stonefield, and my app source.

Then spent 30 min looking for the prg that is/was the menu. It has

been a long time since I have looked at that screen or any of that

code. Frightful as a matter of fact!

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Re: Just had a FPD customer call about a date 4 digit year issue.

Author: Dan Covill

Posted: 2011-05-18 12:33:59   Link

On 5/18/2011 3:50 AM, Roger Tremblay wrote:

> I have a customer who is reluctant to move to a windows environment and is

> running a win7 64bit virtual machine and is running dbase (dos) version

As several others have said, you cannot run DOS programs directly in

64-bit Windows. There appear to be two general solutions:

a) A "virtual machine", i.e., XP Mode, VirtualBox, VMWare, etc., which

involves setting up a second "Virtual" PC inside your physical system,

which contains an operating system that will run your DOS programs.

b) A "sandbox" program which creates a DOS environment directly. The

only example I'm aware of is DOSBox.

The problem with a) is that you have to buy and install the second OS,

and maintain it. Depending on which one you use, switching back and

forth can be a bit complicated. All in all, not terribly simple.

From my limited experience, b) is a whole lot simpler. Cheap, too

(it's free!). My client doesn't have a problem (yet), he's still

running Win NT! But I do, since I dumped my old laptop I no longer have

an XP machine - I'm all Win7-64. So what do I do if he has a problem?

Took me about a half-hour to download, install, and test DOXBox, and it

works just fine. Believe me, it will take you a lot longer to get XP

Mode working!

If you have an entire enterprise system of 16-bit programs then I don't

think DOSBox will do it, but in that case you've got lots bigger

problems than 16-bit compatibility.

Give DOSBox a try. (Where is it? If you can't find it via Google, you

probably wouldn't be able to run it anyway! <g>)

Dan Covill

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Re: Just had a FPD customer call about a date 4 digit year issue.

Author: Alan Bourke

Posted: 2011-05-18 16:40:46   Link

On Wed, 18 May 2011 09:33 -0700, "Dan Covill" <dcovill@san.rr.com>

wrote:

Not if you're using XP Mode. If your 64-bit is Windows 7 Pro or higher,

it's a free download from MS.

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Re: Just had a FPD customer call about a date 4 digit year issue.

Author: Dan Covill

Posted: 2011-05-18 16:53:16   Link

On 5/18/2011 1:40 PM, Alan Bourke wrote:

>

> On Wed, 18 May 2011 09:33 -0700, "Dan Covill"<dcovill@san.rr.com>

> wrote:

>

> Not if you're using XP Mode. If your 64-bit is Windows 7 Pro or higher,

> it's a free download from MS.

> -- Alan Bourke alanpbourke (at) fastmail (dot) fm

I assume you're referring to the need to buy a second OS. I tried XP

mode in the Win 7 Beta, so wasn't sure whether the XP came with the

package or not. In any event, if you're running XP now then you already

have one, so you shouldn't have to buy one to use XP mode.

Dan

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RE: Just had a FPD customer call about a date 4 digit year issue.

Author: Rick Schummer

Posted: 2011-05-19 00:38:07   Link

>> I assume you're referring to the need to buy a second OS. I tried XP mode in the Win 7 Beta, so wasn't sure whether

the XP came with the package or not. In any event, if you're running XP now then you already have one, so you shouldn't

have to buy one to use XP mode.<<

The XP license comes with XP Mode for Windows 7 Professional or higher, and there is no additional out of pocket costs

for the download. Piece of cake to set up and it works well for FoxPro DOS apps. I use it regularly to help support our

customers.

As for using an old XP license in a different virtual technology, that depends on how it was purchased and what the

licensing states. It may be licensed to the machine by the OEM. It is not always clear how the license can be used. But

don't rely on my advice as I am developer, not a licensing guru or a lawyer, and did not read the terms you or your

customer accepted when you initialized the computer. {g}

Rick

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