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2011-04-28 07:52Dave Crozier : Fox-In-Cloud - VFP gets to run on the Cloud
2011-04-28 08:05Richard Kaye : RE: Fox-In-Cloud - VFP gets to run on the Cloud
2011-04-28 08:11Jean Laeremans : Re: Fox-In-Cloud - VFP gets to run on the Cloud
2011-04-28 09:00Stephen Russell : Re: Fox-In-Cloud - VFP gets to run on the Cloud
2011-04-28 10:06Stephen Russell : Re: Fox-In-Cloud - VFP gets to run on the Cloud
2011-04-28 11:40Ed Leafe : Re: Fox-In-Cloud - VFP gets to run on the Cloud
2011-04-28 15:59Sytze de Boer : Re: Fox-In-Cloud - VFP gets to run on the Cloud
2011-04-28 16:23Stephen Russell : Re: Fox-In-Cloud - VFP gets to run on the Cloud
2011-04-28 16:32Sytze de Boer : Re: Fox-In-Cloud - VFP gets to run on the Cloud
2011-04-28 16:34Ed Leafe : Re: Fox-In-Cloud - VFP gets to run on the Cloud
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Fox-In-Cloud - VFP gets to run on the Cloud

Author: Dave Crozier

Posted: 2011-04-28 07:52:33   Link

Just listened to the foxshow #71 and an interview with Christophe Rung from FoxInCloud where he discusses how to move your VFP app onto a cloud platform.

http://akselsoft.libsyn.com/fox-show-71-fox-in-cloud

Website for FoxInCloud:

http://www.foxincloud.com/index.php

Very Interesting.

Dave

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RE: Fox-In-Cloud - VFP gets to run on the Cloud

Author: Richard Kaye

Posted: 2011-04-28 08:05:34   Link

I listened to a chunk last night, too.

Did you check out the licensing cost?

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Just listened to the foxshow #71 and an interview with Christophe Rung from FoxInCloud where he discusses how to move your VFP app onto a cloud platform.

http://akselsoft.libsyn.com/fox-show-71-fox-in-cloud

Website for FoxInCloud:

http://www.foxincloud.com/index.php

Very Interesting.

Dave

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Re: Fox-In-Cloud - VFP gets to run on the Cloud

Author: Jean Laeremans

Posted: 2011-04-28 08:11:12   Link

On Thu, Apr 28, 2011 at 1:52 PM, Dave Crozier <DCrozier@flexipol.co.uk>wrote:

> Just listened to the foxshow #71 and an interview with Christophe Rung from

> FoxInCloud where he discusses how to move your VFP app onto a cloud

> platform.

>

> http://akselsoft.libsyn.com/fox-show-71-fox-in-cloud

>

> Website for FoxInCloud:

> http://www.foxincloud.com/index.php

>

> Very Interesting.

> Dave

>

>

I do wonder what Sony's thoughts are now about the 'cloud' <s>

A+

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Re: Fox-In-Cloud - VFP gets to run on the Cloud

Author: Stephen Russell

Posted: 2011-04-28 09:00:00   Link

On Thu, Apr 28, 2011 at 7:11 AM, Jean Laeremans

<laeremans.jeanmarie@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Thu, Apr 28, 2011 at 1:52 PM, Dave Crozier <DCrozier@flexipol.co.uk>wrote:

>>

> I do wonder what Sony's thoughts are now about the 'cloud' <s>

>

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I listened to a Cloud podcast earlier this week.

<http://deepfriedbytes.com/podcast/episode-68-why-your-career-is-going-away-because-you-refuse-to-change-you-pansy/>

Title is kind of close to the presenters POV. ;->

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Re: Fox-In-Cloud - VFP gets to run on the Cloud

Author: Stephen Russell

Posted: 2011-04-28 10:06:42   Link

On Thu, Apr 28, 2011 at 6:52 AM, Dave Crozier <DCrozier@flexipol.co.uk> wrote:

> Just listened to the foxshow #71 and an interview with Christophe Rung from FoxInCloud where he discusses how to move your VFP app onto a cloud platform.

----------------------------

Another look at life with a cloud.

<http://www.joyoftech.com/joyoftech/joyarchives/1534.html>

How well can you plan for an outage / blockage?

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Re: Fox-In-Cloud - VFP gets to run on the Cloud

Author: Ed Leafe

Posted: 2011-04-28 11:40:02   Link

On Apr 28, 2011, at 7:06 AM, Stephen Russell wrote:

> Another look at life with a cloud.

>

> <http://www.joyoftech.com/joyoftech/joyarchives/1534.html>

>

> How well can you plan for an outage / blockage?

Probably better than you can plan for an outage/blockage of your own equipment.

Imagine if everyone generated their own electricity: every company would have to have engineering staff on hand to monitor electric production, maintain smooth output, handle equipment maintenance, etc. Even with all that, failures would be a fact of life.

Now compare that to the current system for obtaining electric power: yes, there are outages, and you do need to prepare for them, but every company doesn't need to maintain their own electricity staff. Most of the time "it just works", and the smart companies plan for those times when it doesn't.

Cloud computing is no different. If you expect it to never fail, you are being as unrealistic as if you expect the hardware that you maintain on site to never fail. But the benefits of not having to have a dedicated IT staff just to maintain commodity hardware far outweigh any downside. Computing power and storage will become utilities, and the way apps are written will change to reflect that ubiquity.

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Re: Fox-In-Cloud - VFP gets to run on the Cloud

Author: Sytze de Boer

Posted: 2011-04-28 15:59:31   Link

I saw a reference to fox in the cloud a week ago and my heart skipped a

beat.

I went to the site and skipped another beat

Then i saw the costs. I'm back to normal now.

The costs killed it completely.

On Fri, Apr 29, 2011 at 3:40 AM, Ed Leafe <ed@leafe.com> wrote:

> On Apr 28, 2011, at 7:06 AM, Stephen Russell wrote:

>

> > Another look at life with a cloud.

> >

> > <http://www.joyoftech.com/joyoftech/joyarchives/1534.html>

> >

> > How well can you plan for an outage / blockage?

>

> Probably better than you can plan for an outage/blockage of your

> own equipment.

>

> Imagine if everyone generated their own electricity: every company

> would have to have engineering staff on hand to monitor electric production,

> maintain smooth output, handle equipment maintenance, etc. Even with all

> that, failures would be a fact of life.

>

> Now compare that to the current system for obtaining electric power:

> yes, there are outages, and you do need to prepare for them, but every

> company doesn't need to maintain their own electricity staff. Most of the

> time "it just works", and the smart companies plan for those times when it

> doesn't.

>

> Cloud computing is no different. If you expect it to never fail, you

> are being as unrealistic as if you expect the hardware that you maintain on

> site to never fail. But the benefits of not having to have a dedicated IT

> staff just to maintain commodity hardware far outweigh any downside.

> Computing power and storage will become utilities, and the way apps are

> written will change to reflect that ubiquity.

>

>

> -- Ed Leafe

>

>

>

>

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Re: Fox-In-Cloud - VFP gets to run on the Cloud

Author: Stephen Russell

Posted: 2011-04-28 16:23:47   Link

On Thu, Apr 28, 2011 at 2:59 PM, Sytze de Boer <sytze.kiss@gmail.com> wrote:

> I saw a reference to fox in the cloud a week ago and my heart skipped a

> beat.

> I went to the site and skipped another beat

>

> Then i saw the costs. I'm back to normal now.

> The costs killed it completely.

-------------------

Most people on this list woudl freak out at cloud costs. Remember

Compuserve back in the day when you paid by the byte? Welcome to the

cloud where you pay by the gig.

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Re: Fox-In-Cloud - VFP gets to run on the Cloud

Author: Sytze de Boer

Posted: 2011-04-28 16:32:24   Link

The cost of the cloud is not what frightens me.

Frankly, you ignore the cloud at your peril.

But the software cost is prohibitive. (Fox on the cloud that is)

My search goes on...

S

On Fri, Apr 29, 2011 at 8:23 AM, Stephen Russell <srussell705@gmail.com>wrote:

> On Thu, Apr 28, 2011 at 2:59 PM, Sytze de Boer <sytze.kiss@gmail.com>

> wrote:

> > I saw a reference to fox in the cloud a week ago and my heart skipped a

> > beat.

> > I went to the site and skipped another beat

> >

> > Then i saw the costs. I'm back to normal now.

> > The costs killed it completely.

> -------------------

>

> Most people on this list woudl freak out at cloud costs. Remember

> Compuserve back in the day when you paid by the byte? Welcome to the

> cloud where you pay by the gig.

>

> --

> Stephen Russell

>

> Unified Health Services

> 60 Germantown Court

> Suite 220

> Cordova, TN 38018

>

> Telephone: 888.510.2667

>

> 901.246-0159 cell

>

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Re: Fox-In-Cloud - VFP gets to run on the Cloud

Author: Ed Leafe

Posted: 2011-04-28 16:34:24   Link

On Apr 28, 2011, at 1:23 PM, Stephen Russell wrote:

> Most people on this list woudl freak out at cloud costs. Remember

> Compuserve back in the day when you paid by the byte? Welcome to the

> cloud where you pay by the gig.

Yeah, and remember when other services sprang up and forced costs down?

One of the goals of OpenStack is to make the cloud a commodity. Everyone has access to the same infrastructure code, so you won't get into that "sole supplier" situation like you describe.

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