RE: vfp9 and windows7 xpmode

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vfp9 and windows7 xpmode

Author: Jerry Foote

Posted: 2011-04-22 09:27:51 Link

I have vfp9 installed on my windows7 64bit machine, I have installed xpmode.

Do I have to install vfp9 in the xpmode. I tried to create a short cut to

vfp9 on the base machine, however it cannot find supporting files. Does

xpmode have it's own registry?. I don't mind the disk space required, just

don't want to mess up machine.

Thanks Jerry

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RE: vfp9 and windows7 xpmode

Author: Tracy Pearson

Posted: 2011-04-22 09:58:02 Link

Jerry Foote wrote on 2011-04-22:

> I have vfp9 installed on my windows7 64bit machine, I have installed

xpmode.

> Do I have to install vfp9 in the xpmode. I tried to create a short cut to

> vfp9 on the base machine, however it cannot find supporting files. Does

> xpmode have it's own registry?. I don't mind the disk space required,

just

> don't want to mess up machine.

>

> Thanks Jerry

>

Jerry,

>From http://www.microsoft.com/windows/virtual-pc/support/faq.aspx

What is Windows XP Mode?

Windows XP Mode is a new benefit of Windows 7 Professional and Windows 7

Ultimate and provides additional application compatibility. It allows you to

install and run many of your productivity applications for Windows XP

directly from your Windows 7-based PC. It utilizes virtualization

technology, such as Windows Virtual PC, to provide a virtual Windows XP

environment for Windows 7.

So, Yes. XP Mode is Windows XP, you use it as if it is physical hardware you

have a remote desktop connection to.

I like VMware Workstation and Virtual PC solutions because you have multiple

machines, multiple OS versions, save points to revert back to. I don't see

that as an option of XP Mode.

Tracy Pearson

PowerChurch Software

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RE: vfp9 and windows7 xpmode

Author: Allen

Posted: 2011-04-22 10:03:45 Link

XP mode needs the hardware to be correct too

Al

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I like VMware Workstation and Virtual PC solutions because you have multiple

machines, multiple OS versions, save points to revert back to. I don't see

that as an option of XP Mode.

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RE: vfp9 and windows7 xpmode

Author: Tracy Pearson

Posted: 2011-04-22 10:06:54 Link

Allen wrote on 2011-04-22:

> XP mode needs the hardware to be correct too

> Al

>

> -----Original Message-----

>

> I like VMware Workstation and Virtual PC solutions because you have

multiple

> machines, multiple OS versions, save points to revert back to. I don't

see

> that as an option of XP Mode.

>

Allen,

Actually that has changed, also from the FAQ

Is hardware virtualization a must-have to run Windows XP Mode?

No. Windows XP Mode can be run on a CPU without hardware virtualization.

Is hardware virtualization better?

For Windows XP Mode the performance will be more than acceptable with or

without hardware virtualization. For developers using Virtual PC with

Windows Vista or Windows 7 virtual machines we recommend HAV as the non-HAV

is only tuned for XP Mode.

Tracy Pearson

PowerChurch Software

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Re: vfp9 and windows7 xpmode

Author: Rafael Copquin

Posted: 2011-04-22 10:57:54 Link

To answer the first question, namely whether you have to have VFP

installed in the XP Virtual machine, yes, you must. Think of it as an XP

machine. Just install everything inside the XP machine and you can

operate without problems. At least this has been my experience so far.

I have been using Microsoft Virtual Machines in both my Windows 7

Ultimate 32 bit desktop and my Windows 7 Professional 64 bit notebook.

In both virtual machines I have installed Windows XP, Windows 2003

Server and Windows 2008 server. I can switch back and forth from each of

them and test my apps in all environments. I really works great.

However, I found that Windows XP Mode is a bit different in 64 bits than

in 32 bits. In the 32 bit machine I had simply installed MVM and using

an XP CD I installed XP directly into the VM. When I subsequently

downloaded the Windows XP mode, which I was not aware of at the time of

my first installation of VM, it would not install because a message

appeared saying that XP was already installed. A bit confusing but, what

the heck? I can use XP directly in the VM with no problems.

The 64 bit Windows Professional allowed the installation of XP mode, but

I find it a bit slower than the 32 bit one. Maybe there is some

configuration option that I am not taking into consideration.

My question is, how can I run XP Mode without virtualization, where can

I read about it some more? Tracy, could you please expand a little bit?

Happy Easter to all

Rafael Copquin

> Allen,

>

> Actually that has changed, also from the FAQ

>

> Is hardware virtualization a must-have to run Windows XP Mode?

> No. Windows XP Mode can be run on a CPU without hardware virtualization.

>

> Is hardware virtualization better?

> For Windows XP Mode the performance will be more than acceptable with or

> without hardware virtualization. For developers using Virtual PC with

> Windows Vista or Windows 7 virtual machines we recommend HAV as the non-HAV

> is only tuned for XP Mode.

>

> Tracy Pearson

> PowerChurch Software

>

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Re: vfp9 and windows7 xpmode

Author: Alan Bourke

Posted: 2011-04-22 10:59:10 Link

Apologies if I'm nout understanding what you're trying to achieve, but

you don't *need* to run VFP9 in XP Mode on 64-bit Windows, although you

could certainly do it. VFP9 SP2 works perfectly in my experience.

--

Alan Bourke

alanpbourke (at) fastmail (dot) fm

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RE: vfp9 and windows7 xpmode

Author: Rick Schummer

Posted: 2011-04-22 11:45:23 Link

>> Do I have to install vfp9 in the xpmode.<<

No, I can run apps from the host machine. Have been doing it with FoxPro DOS for a while now.

I was able to get VFP 9 to run in Windows XP Mode. Here is what I did.

1) Used Windows Explorer in XP Mode to navigate to the Windows 7 host machine C drive where VFP 9 is installed.

2) Dragged VFP9.EXE to XP Mode desktop.

3) Ran VFP 9 from the shortcut.

Initially it failed looking for the MSVCR71.dll.

4) Copied the MSVCR71.dll from the Windows 7 machine (Windows\SysWOW64 folder) to the XP Mode (Windows\System32 folder).

5) Used shortcut in XP Mode to start VFP successfully.

Couple of caveats.

1) Help is not working so you need the copy the VFP folder from "C:\Program Files\Common Files\Microsoft Shared\" to the

XP Mode machine (same location)

2) In the Windows Command Window change to the common VFP folder and run FoxHHelp9.exe with the /regserver parameter

3) There are other files dependencies you might need like the MSXML so things like the Task Pane Manager work.

Rick

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RE: vfp9 and windows7 xpmode

Author: Jerry Foote

Posted: 2011-04-22 12:07:20 Link

That's the answer I was looking for.

Thanks Jerry

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Subject: RE: vfp9 and windows7 xpmode

>> Do I have to install vfp9 in the xpmode.<<

No, I can run apps from the host machine. Have been doing it with FoxPro DOS

for a while now.

I was able to get VFP 9 to run in Windows XP Mode. Here is what I did.

1) Used Windows Explorer in XP Mode to navigate to the Windows 7 host

machine C drive where VFP 9 is installed.

2) Dragged VFP9.EXE to XP Mode desktop.

3) Ran VFP 9 from the shortcut.

Initially it failed looking for the MSVCR71.dll.

4) Copied the MSVCR71.dll from the Windows 7 machine (Windows\SysWOW64

folder) to the XP Mode (Windows\System32 folder).

5) Used shortcut in XP Mode to start VFP successfully.

Couple of caveats.

1) Help is not working so you need the copy the VFP folder from "C:\Program

Files\Common Files\Microsoft Shared\" to the

XP Mode machine (same location)

2) In the Windows Command Window change to the common VFP folder and run

FoxHHelp9.exe with the /regserver parameter

3) There are other files dependencies you might need like the MSXML so

things like the Task Pane Manager work.

Rick

White Light Computing, Inc.

www.whitelightcomputing.com

www.swfox.net

www.rickschummer.com

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RE: vfp9 and windows7 xpmode

Author: Jerry Foote

Posted: 2011-04-22 12:43:42 Link

Ok

I did most of that but help not working.. what is the /regserver parameter

So I can run FoxHHelp9.exe with the /regserver parameter

Thanks Jerry

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Of Rick Schummer

Sent: Friday, April 22, 2011 10:45 AM

To: profox@leafe.com

Subject: RE: vfp9 and windows7 xpmode

>> Do I have to install vfp9 in the xpmode.<<

No, I can run apps from the host machine. Have been doing it with FoxPro DOS

for a while now.

I was able to get VFP 9 to run in Windows XP Mode. Here is what I did.

1) Used Windows Explorer in XP Mode to navigate to the Windows 7 host

machine C drive where VFP 9 is installed.

2) Dragged VFP9.EXE to XP Mode desktop.

3) Ran VFP 9 from the shortcut.

Initially it failed looking for the MSVCR71.dll.

4) Copied the MSVCR71.dll from the Windows 7 machine (Windows\SysWOW64

folder) to the XP Mode (Windows\System32 folder).

5) Used shortcut in XP Mode to start VFP successfully.

Couple of caveats.

1) Help is not working so you need the copy the VFP folder from "C:\Program

Files\Common Files\Microsoft Shared\" to the

XP Mode machine (same location)

2) In the Windows Command Window change to the common VFP folder and run

FoxHHelp9.exe with the /regserver parameter

3) There are other files dependencies you might need like the MSXML so

things like the Task Pane Manager work.

Rick

White Light Computing, Inc.

www.whitelightcomputing.com

www.swfox.net

www.rickschummer.com

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RE: vfp9 and windows7 xpmode

Author: Tracy Pearson

Posted: 2011-04-22 12:44:03 Link

Rafael Copquin wrote on 2011-04-22:

>

> My question is, how can I run XP Mode without virtualization, where can

> I read about it some more? Tracy, could you please expand a little bit?

>

> Happy Easter to all

>

> Rafael Copquin

>

Rafael,

XP Mode is always going to be in an emulation of hardware. A VM has a BIOS

like real hardware does. Though, you may not be able to get to the BIOS of

XP Mode.

What they were specifically talking about is hardware that has

virtualization hooks that the VM's can take advantage of. Depending on the

BIOS of the host system, hardware virtualization may or may not be enabled.

Newer systems they are enabled by default. Two years ago, they were disabled

by default.

Tracy Pearson

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