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2011-02-15 22:30<kamcginnis@gmail.com>: Re: [NF] Jeopardy and Watson
2011-02-16 01:34Bill Anderson : Re: [NF] Jeopardy and Watson
2011-02-16 08:30Jerry Foote : RE: [NF] Jeopardy and Watson
2011-02-16 09:07Stephen Russell : Re: [NF] Jeopardy and Watson
2011-02-16 09:20Vincent Teachout : Re: [NF] Jeopardy and Watson
2011-02-16 11:13Kurt Wendt : RE: [NF] Jeopardy and Watson
2011-02-16 11:54Jarvis, Matthew : RE: [NF] Jeopardy and Watson
2011-02-16 12:28Kurt Wendt : RE: [NF] Jeopardy and Watson
2011-02-16 12:30Ricardo Aráoz : Re: [NF] Jeopardy and Watson
2011-02-17 13:54Michael Madigan : Re: [NF] Jeopardy and Watson
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Re: [NF] Jeopardy and Watson

Author: <kamcginnis@gmail.com>

Posted: 2011-02-15 22:30:36   Link

Anyone watching Watson (from IBM) play Jeopardy?

Deep Blue (an IBM research project) beat the world's chess champion.

Supposedly Jeopardy is an impossible game unless American English is your first language and you are extremely well

educated.

There is one more game at 7pm PST on Wednesday.

To watch Watson run away with the game on Tuesday was incredible. IBM may be showing us the future of computing and

robots and a lot more.

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Re: [NF] Jeopardy and Watson

Author: Bill Anderson

Posted: 2011-02-16 01:34:00   Link

Deep Blue beat Kasparov but Kasparov took it way too lightly. He didn't

leave enough time to recover between games and wore himself out. The

programmers for Deep Blue kept changing the algorithm between matches so the

weaknesses found in one game didn't exist in the next game.

If Deep Blue played today's chess champion there's a very good chance it

would lose. The champion wouldn't take the challenge lightly.

Bill Anderson

On Tue, Feb 15, 2011 at 7:30 PM, <kamcginnis@gmail.com> wrote:

>

> Anyone watching Watson (from IBM) play Jeopardy?

>

> Deep Blue (an IBM research project) beat the world's chess champion.

>

> Supposedly Jeopardy is an impossible game unless American English is your

> first language and you are extremely well

> educated.

>

> There is one more game at 7pm PST on Wednesday.

>

> To watch Watson run away with the game on Tuesday was incredible. IBM may

> be showing us the future of computing and

> robots and a lot more.

>

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RE: [NF] Jeopardy and Watson

Author: Jerry Foote

Posted: 2011-02-16 08:30:41   Link

As I understand Watson is passed a question in the form of a text string. A

number of questions come to my mind.

1) When does Watson get question? The question is spoken so the time between

when the sting is sent and the reader finishes speaking gives Watson all

that time to look up results.

2) Are questions phrased exactly as they appear in lookup tables?

Jerry Foote

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Deep Blue beat Kasparov but Kasparov took it way too lightly. He didn't

leave enough time to recover between games and wore himself out. The

programmers for Deep Blue kept changing the algorithm between matches so the

weaknesses found in one game didn't exist in the next game.

If Deep Blue played today's chess champion there's a very good chance it

would lose. The champion wouldn't take the challenge lightly.

Bill Anderson

On Tue, Feb 15, 2011 at 7:30 PM, <kamcginnis@gmail.com> wrote:

>

> Anyone watching Watson (from IBM) play Jeopardy?

>

> Deep Blue (an IBM research project) beat the world's chess champion.

>

> Supposedly Jeopardy is an impossible game unless American English is your

> first language and you are extremely well

> educated.

>

> There is one more game at 7pm PST on Wednesday.

>

> To watch Watson run away with the game on Tuesday was incredible. IBM may

> be showing us the future of computing and

> robots and a lot more.

>

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Re: [NF] Jeopardy and Watson

Author: Stephen Russell

Posted: 2011-02-16 09:07:03   Link

On Wed, Feb 16, 2011 at 7:30 AM, Jerry Foote <jerryf@footegroup.com> wrote:

> As I understand Watson is passed a question in the form of a text string. A

> number of questions come to my mind.

> 1) When does Watson get question? The question is spoken so the time between

> when the sting is sent and the reader finishes speaking gives Watson all

> that time to look up results.

> 2) Are questions phrased exactly as they appear in lookup tables?

------------

3) Does Watson have to fire a mechanical response to signal in the answer?

#2 I heard that it gets the same Q.

It first dissects the "Answer" to attempt to gain how to query. Is

the Question about Literature, artists, places, history. It then does

multiple queries and scores the results to determine the best

"Question" and provide that winner.

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Re: [NF] Jeopardy and Watson

Author: Vincent Teachout

Posted: 2011-02-16 09:20:45   Link

Stephen Russell wrote:

> On Wed, Feb 16, 2011 at 7:30 AM, Jerry Foote <jerryf@footegroup.com> wrote:

>> As I understand Watson is passed a question in the form of a text string. A

>> number of questions come to my mind.

I didn't know that. I thought it was a very impressive display of

speech recognition. As a parse and query exercise, not nearly as

imporessive.

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RE: [NF] Jeopardy and Watson

Author: Kurt Wendt

Posted: 2011-02-16 11:13:00   Link

You may not think its so impressive - but, I beg to differ.

The BIG deal is the formatting of the questions, and the Strange

phrasing that is VERY Typical in Jeopardy. So - its all about

understanding natural language.

I recorded the shows on my Tivo - and will also be getting the show

tonite.

I watched the 1st show, and finished up to about 1/2 of the 2nd show.

Its pretty AMAZING indeed! And, my son - who is 9 - is ALSO Really

enjoying watching it with me. We also found it VERY Fascinating - that

the 1st 1/3 of the show each night is giving the audience all the

background about Watson - including spec's on the computing power HW -

and showing us the actual computers & rooms, the footage of earlier test

Jeopardy games (not done w/Alex Trebeck), and also interviews with many

of the developers. Its really pretty wild stuff - and definitely a HUGE

Leap in computing technology. I also read a whole NY Times Mag article

about it - so I knew in advance a lot of details about the project -

even way before the show was aired!

Stephen - in regards to your question. Yes - then actually have a

Mechanical setup that allows Watson to ACTUALLY push the Buzzer - to

Buzz in and say he is ready to answer.

Jerry - as for the timing when Watson gets the question - I am not sure

about that. It was mentioned in the magazine article. I think Watson

gets the question at the moment its presented to the audience & the

other players. But, like the other players - he is NOT allowed to answer

until the question has been read completely!

For those who haven't watched it yet - here's a little more about what

we get to see.

There is a Graphical "Avatar" that represents Watson. The colors &

graphics changed depending on what Watson is doing - as he's analyzing a

question - and even when he has an answer and how "Confident" he is

about the answers. Also, what is displayed at the bottom of the screen

for us to see on TV is a kind of horizontal bar chart with numbers.

Watson comes up with various possible answers. The TOP 3 are displayed -

along with a "confidence" level percentage. There is a vertical line

that is displayed - and Watson will ONLY give an answer if his Top

answer actually goes beyond that vertical line. The exception being

Double-Jeopardy, which he MUST give an answer. And, since his top answer

did NOT reach that vertical line during the one Double-Jeopardy question

I saw - he actually said something like "I Think" or "I will Guess that

the answer is"! I forget the exact wording - but, I thought it was

pretty cool - since he was NOT sure of his answer. But, in the end - he

still had the right answer! Also - at one point - for the Double

Jeopardy - he gave this very exact wager $ amount - like $3675 - and the

whole audience Erupted with Laughter. Because - a human Never on the

show gives such an Exact wager like that!

Anyway - I guess that's it for now. I TOO look forwards to seeing the

rest of the shows w/Watson!

-K-

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Stephen Russell wrote:

> On Wed, Feb 16, 2011 at 7:30 AM, Jerry Foote <jerryf@footegroup.com>

wrote:

>> As I understand Watson is passed a question in the form of a text

string. A

>> number of questions come to my mind.

I didn't know that. I thought it was a very impressive display of

speech recognition. As a parse and query exercise, not nearly as

imporessive.

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RE: [NF] Jeopardy and Watson

Author: Jarvis, Matthew

Posted: 2011-02-16 11:54:48   Link

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>

> You may not think its so impressive - but, I beg to differ.

>

<snipped>

I'm prolly just naive, but this machine doesn't really impress me...

(though I admit I haven't watched it - TV isn't really my thing).

Sure it's cool that it can parse the English language as well as it does

(probably a LOT better than I could - but then again, I'm not an

IBM'er), but the fact that this device is dedicated to only one thing

turns this into merely an amusing demonstration of computing power...

When a single machine can walk out into a forest and sit there for two

weeks (about as long as a human can reasonably go without food i.e.

power) AND play chess AND play Jeopardy, and decide which clothes to put

on my 7 year old daughter for school, THEN I'll be pretty impressed...

Some day the electricity is going to be shut off - we'd better not ever

depend on these machines too much...

Thanks,

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IT Department

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RE: [NF] Jeopardy and Watson

Author: Kurt Wendt

Posted: 2011-02-16 12:28:30   Link

Hey there Matthew,

Here's the deal. In regards to what you mentioned below "...the fact

that this device is dedicated to only one thing..." - this is not quite

true.

You see - this issue was actually discussed in that NY Times article.

And, its your point that actually represents the HUGE difference between

the BigBlue chess system vs. this "Jeopardy" system. I put that in

quotes - since right now the system was geared towards playing Jeopardy.

However, in fact - that is only the FIRST Implementation of the

technology - and the possibilities for future applications is EXACTLY

WHAT makes it so Exciting!

You see - the Chess system could ONLY play chess. But, this system is

based upon receiving a Question - which, as in the case in point for

Jeopardy - can be based upon a HUGE range of topics. And, then the

system must analyze the question (or - in particular w/Jeopardy - it's

the Answer it analyzes - in order to come up with the Question!).

But, this same technology can potentially be applied to a HUGE number of

diverse subject matters and applications. For instance, give it medical

data - and have it used in Emergency rooms. If you ever watch House

(yeah, I know its fictional - but, there is some reality to it) - a

patient comes in with a strange problem. And, during the show - House

and his associates must analyze the patient - and try to figure out what

the Heck is wrong with them. This would be a perfect application for

"Watson".

Or, how about as a sophisticated business tool? One could use it to help

make advanced business decisions.

I believe the article also mentioned using the system for something like

1st level Tech Support.

So - I hope this makes sense - and maybe now you might see why the

possibilities are almost endless. And, that the Watson project can

Actually end up being something useful - Beyond just playing Jeopardy!

-K-

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> You may not think its so impressive - but, I beg to differ.

>

<snipped>

I'm prolly just naive, but this machine doesn't really impress me...

(though I admit I haven't watched it - TV isn't really my thing).

Sure it's cool that it can parse the English language as well as it does

(probably a LOT better than I could - but then again, I'm not an

IBM'er), but the fact that this device is dedicated to only one thing

turns this into merely an amusing demonstration of computing power...

When a single machine can walk out into a forest and sit there for two

weeks (about as long as a human can reasonably go without food i.e.

power) AND play chess AND play Jeopardy, and decide which clothes to put

on my 7 year old daughter for school, THEN I'll be pretty impressed...

Some day the electricity is going to be shut off - we'd better not ever

depend on these machines too much...

Thanks,

Matthew Jarvis || Business Systems Analyst

IT Department

McKenzie-Willamette Medical Center

1460 G Street, Springfield, OR 97477 || Ph: 541-744-6092 || Fax:

541-744-6145

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Re: [NF] Jeopardy and Watson

Author: Ricardo Aráoz

Posted: 2011-02-16 12:30:31   Link

On 16/02/2011 11:07 a.m., Stephen Russell wrote:

> On Wed, Feb 16, 2011 at 7:30 AM, Jerry Foote<jerryf@footegroup.com> wrote:

>> As I understand Watson is passed a question in the form of a text string. A

>> number of questions come to my mind.

>> 1) When does Watson get question? The question is spoken so the time between

>> when the sting is sent and the reader finishes speaking gives Watson all

>> that time to look up results.

>> 2) Are questions phrased exactly as they appear in lookup tables?

> ------------

>

> 3) Does Watson have to fire a mechanical response to signal in the answer?

>

> #2 I heard that it gets the same Q.

>

> It first dissects the "Answer" to attempt to gain how to query. Is

> the Question about Literature, artists, places, history. It then does

> multiple queries and scores the results to determine the best

> "Question" and provide that winner.

Ok, but remember... it is not about a bear dancing well, it is about a

bear dancing.

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Re: [NF] Jeopardy and Watson

Author: Michael Madigan

Posted: 2011-02-17 13:54:44   Link

Wait til they teach Watson to lie.

--- On Wed, 2/16/11, Ricardo Aráoz <ricaraoz@gmail.com> wrote:

> From: Ricardo Aráoz <ricaraoz@gmail.com>

> Subject: Re: [NF] Jeopardy and Watson

> To: "ProFox Email List" <profox@leafe.com>

> Date: Wednesday, February 16, 2011, 12:30 PM

> On 16/02/2011 11:07 a.m., Stephen

> Russell wrote:

> > On Wed, Feb 16, 2011 at 7:30 AM, Jerry Foote<jerryf@footegroup.com> 

> wrote:

> >> As I understand Watson is passed a question in the

> form of a text string. A

> >> number of questions come to my mind.

> >> 1) When does Watson get question? The question is

> spoken so the time between

> >> when the sting is sent and the reader finishes

> speaking gives Watson all

> >> that time to look up results.

> >> 2) Are questions phrased exactly as they appear in

> lookup tables?

> > ------------

> >

> > 3) Does Watson have to fire a mechanical response to

> signal in the answer?

> >

> > #2 I heard that it gets the same Q.

> >

> > It first dissects the "Answer" to attempt to gain how

> to query.  Is

> > the Question about Literature, artists, places,

> history.  It then does

> > multiple queries and scores the results to determine

> the best

> > "Question" and provide that winner.

>

> Ok, but remember... it is not about a bear dancing well, it

> is about a

> bear dancing.

>

>

>

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